AMD price cuts

Attic

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Wow. The 7850, 7870, and 7950 look like incredible bargains here. Still get the 2 or 3 AAA games free with the cards as well.
 

Rvenger

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They just dropped the 7950 a ton again.


I should be crossfiring them.
 

RussianSensation

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They just dropped the 7950 a ton again.

I should be crossfiring them.

The quietest 7950 ever made is only $180, while NV charges $250-$300 for 760 2-4GB cards. 1Ghz 7970 can be found for $280 (either Sapphire DX or Gigabyte Windforce 3x). NV's closest performance competitor is GTX770 2-4GB which sell for $380-450.

This reminds me of 4850/4870 days. NV's cards ATM are insanely overpriced for what you get.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-im-test/4/

It's mind-boggling to think you can get 1Ghz 7970 and have $170 left over towards an SSD/next GPU upgrade compared to a 4GB 770. 4GB 760s are > 60% more expensive than a 7950!
 
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What is the source? Any more details on timing and availability?

If those are correct and readily available they are fantastic bargains.
 

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What is the source? Any more details on timing and availability?

If those are correct and readily available they are fantastic bargains.

Source is a Newegg search.

The powercolor 7990 is very tempting to me.

I'm still curious what litecoin performance the R9 290x will have, so I will make my decision at that time, considering I >>do<< also use these cards for gaming, and crossfire is fail.
 
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raghu78

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The quietest 7950 ever made is only $180, while NV charges $250-$300 for 760 2-4GB cards. 1Ghz 7970 can be found for $280 (either Sapphire DX or Gigabyte Windforce 3x). NV's closest performance competitor is GTX770 2-4GB which sell for $380-450.

This reminds me of 4850/4870 days. NV's cards ATM are insanely overpriced for what you get.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-im-test/4/

It's mind-boggling to think you can get 1Ghz 7970 and have $170 left over towards an SSD/next GPU upgrade compared to a 4GB 770. 4GB 760s are > 60% more expensive than a 7950!

The prices are to clear inventory of HD 7950 / HD 7970 cards in anticipation of R9 280X and R9 280. the real pressure on Nvidia will come when Hawaii Pro comes at USD 400 - 450. at that time we will see price cuts from Nvidia.
 

Rvenger

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The prices are to clear inventory of HD 7950 / HD 7970 cards in anticipation of R9 280X and R9 280. the real pressure on Nvidia will come when Hawaii Pro comes at USD 400 - 450. at that time we will see price cuts from Nvidia.


The only thing they are doing is making a strong argument to just buy a 7990 or another 7970/7950 and call it a year. Any lower they will just hurt their new GPU sales.


EDIT.. wow $579.99 AR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202036
 

Ventanni

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A 7950 for under $200 is an insanely good value these days. Hopefully these prices stay consistent in time for my birthday in November!
 

RussianSensation

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The prices are to clear inventory of HD 7950 / HD 7970 cards in anticipation of R9 280X and R9 280. the real pressure on Nvidia will come when Hawaii Pro comes at USD 400 - 450. at that time we will see price cuts from Nvidia.

Rumor has it R9 280X is a 1Ghz 7970 priced at $299. There will still be an $80-150 price gap between 770 then. HD7950/7970 prices have been this low for weeks now. This isn't news to be honest for people who followed Newegg's pricing. I don't think NV will feel any pressure. Remember $100 more expensive and slower GTX260 vs. 4870? NV is chilling this generation because their loyal consumer base keeps paying those prices. What's more amazing is not that NV keeps pricing high but that so many gamers are paying $120 more over 7950 for 760 4GB and $100-170 more over 1Ghz 7970 for 770 2-4GB.
 
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Xarick

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I had a pcs+ 5850 and the hardware is rock solid. Tempted to pick it up for this price and sell off my 670
 

Subyman

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Wow, those prices are crazy. The stock won't last long IMO.
 

raghu78

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Rumor has it R9 280X is a 1Ghz 7970 priced at $299. There will still be an $80-150 price gap between 770 then. HD7950/7970 prices have been this low for weeks now. This isn't news to be honest for people who followed Newegg's pricing. I don't think NV will feel any pressure. Remember $100 more expensive and slower GTX260 vs. 4870?

the difference is the range of HD 7970 pricing is quite wide. newegg has 10 HD 7970 cards priced at USD 350 or below and 8 above USD 350. the costliest is MSI HD 7970 Lightning BE at USD 475

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&amp;PageSize=20

When R9 280X launches stock cards would be around USD 300 - 320 and R9 280X OC cards would be around USD 330 - 350. R9 290 aka Hawaii Pro would slot in at USD 400 - 450. so there is no way anybody would pay USD 400 for any HD 7970 card or even GTX 770.

btw HD 4870 causes some serious headache for Nvidia so much so that by the time HD 4890 launched , GTX 275 also launched at similar prices.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2745

So nvidia is not by any means above the competition. Nvidia is going to have some serious headaches when a Hawaii Pro with Mantle manhandles a Titan in BF4 this holiday and upcoming Frostbite 3 games in 2014 :thumbsup:
 

raghu78

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Wow, those prices are crazy. The stock won't last long IMO.

agreed especially on the HD 7950 . those USD 200 deals are to clear stock in anticipation of R7 270X at USD 200, R9 280 at USD 240 - 250 and R9 280X at USD 300.
 

RussianSensation

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So nvidia is not by any means above the competition.

Depends who you ask. Their fans keep paying $100-150 premiums and link to old reviews / benches with 12 months old drivers to make AMD cards look bad (BF3 *cough*). Remember when HD7970 supposedly had 'awful DX9 performance'? Since then GCN destroys GTX680 in most DX9 games but this is never brought up.

Here are 2 more recent DX9 games where 680 performs like a 7870:
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/shadow-warrior-test-gpu.html
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/alien-rage-test-gpu.html

Because of NV's viral marketing and their fans paying premiums due to perception that NV is better, NV has no desire to lower prices.
 
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Jaydip

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Depends who you ask. Their fans keep paying $100-150 premiums and link to old reviews / benches with 12 months old drivers to make AMD cards look bad (BF3 *cough*). Remember when HD7970 supposedly had 'awful DX9 performance'? Since then GCN destroys GTX680 in most DX9 games but this is never brought up.

Here are 2 more recent DX9 games where 680 performs like a 7870:
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/shadow-warrior-test-gpu.html
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/alien-rage-test-gpu.html

Because of NV's viral marketing and their fans paying premiums due to perception that NV is better
, NV has no desire to lower prices.

Really now? So you believe NV specific features have no benefit while you keep on touting mantle's advantage which is not even out yet.Regarding viral marketing please, I have seen it during BD days.
 

RussianSensation

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Really now? So you believe NV specific features have no benefit while you keep on touting mantle's advantage which is not even out yet.Regarding viral marketing please, I have seen it during BD days.

I am not touting Mantle's advantages. It could give a boost, or it could be a total flop. The point is Mantle will cause more competition in the GPU space, not less. This means more powerful NV GPUs, and price wars. As far NV specific features, let's see if you come up with a list that's long enough to explain to us why someone should pay $450 for a 770 4GB over a $280 Sapphire 1Ghz 7970? A single 770 isn't powerful enough for NV surround gaming, so that's out. It has worse compute performance than 7970, so that's out. It doesn't use significantly less power at idle or load to warrant the $170 price difference, so that's out. It can't play games that use > 3GB of VRAM without performance being a slide-show, so that's out. Is it worth $170 more to play 2 good PhysX games a year?

What else?
 

Jaydip

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I am not touting Mantle's advantages. It could give a boost, or it could be a total flop. The point is Mantle will cause more competition in the GPU space, not less. This means more powerful NV GPUs, and price wars. As far NV specific features, let's see if you come up with a list that's long enough to explain to us why someone should pay $450 for a 770 4GB over a $280 Sapphire 1Ghz 7970? A single 770 isn't powerful enough for NV surround gaming, so that's out. It has worse compute performance than 7970, so that's out. It doesn't use significantly less power at idle or load to warrant the $170 price difference, so that's out. It can't play games that use > 3GB of VRAM without performance being a slide-show, so that's out. Is it worth $170 more to play 2 good PhysX games a year?

What else?

I was not arguing about 770, did I ever mention that? I was talking about NV cards in general.You sometime forget that value is relative to each person, you can't dictate that metric.AMD brought 7990 at $999 despite it having severe frame pacing issues? was it a good value to you as well? you talked about viral marketing but didn't adress that a senor guy here was basically shilling for AMD.I also get the feeling that APUs are the best thing ever happened when I venture into CPU sub-forum, NV is really shilling hard.
 

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Hi all, looking at these prices and thinking about the boost Mantle could provide, as well as just the general fact that AMD is in all the next gen consoles, I'm thinking about selling my ASUS 660 Ti for a 7950, hoping by selling it maybe can even break even on price, even though I have absolutely no performance issues today. I only game at 1920x1200, but just thinking about performance on future games, the extra memory, and something I could hopefully keep for a couple years at least. Or based on the perf of a 660 Ti and my resolution, is it probably not worth it? Would like to hear what you think!
 

Leyawiin

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The quietest 7950 ever made is only $180

If I didn't have a GTX 670 already I'd snap that up in a second. Hard to believe that's what I paid for a reference GTX 460 1GB in 2010. Its not so much comparing an old card to a new one, the performance category is so much cheaper at the moment. A GTX 460 back then would be the equivalent of an HD 7850 today. For the price category of 2010 you get two steps higher in 2013 (if that makes any sense!).
 

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How is the 7950 at 1440p compared with SLI GTX460s?

I know the GTX460 is limited on ram, but it does everything I need great at 1080p. I am considering moving to a 1440p monitor, but I don't want to upgrade to a card and know that I'm going to start sacrificing detail. Should I wait out for another generation?
Going to 1440p would be more about getting more real estate on the Desktop rather than higher resolution in games, but when playing games, I don't want anything outside native resolution. I'm hesitant to X-fire AMD cards at this point...
 

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Hi all, looking at these prices and thinking about the boost Mantle could provide, as well as just the general fact that AMD is in all the next gen consoles, I'm thinking about selling my ASUS 660 Ti for a 7950, hoping by selling it maybe can even break even on price, even though I have absolutely no performance issues today. I only game at 1920x1200, but just thinking about performance on future games, the extra memory, and something I could hopefully keep for a couple years at least. Or based on the perf of a 660 Ti and my resolution, is it probably not worth it? Would like to hear what you think!

I think Mantle is interesting and is a gusty move by AMD, but I wouldn't get a 7950 from a 660ti for it. Not worth it IMO.
 

raghu78

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Hi all, looking at these prices and thinking about the boost Mantle could provide, as well as just the general fact that AMD is in all the next gen consoles, I'm thinking about selling my ASUS 660 Ti for a 7950, hoping by selling it maybe can even break even on price, even though I have absolutely no performance issues today. I only game at 1920x1200, but just thinking about performance on future games, the extra memory, and something I could hopefully keep for a couple years at least. Or based on the perf of a 660 Ti and my resolution, is it probably not worth it? Would like to hear what you think!

HD 7950(1150 mhz) vs GTX 660 Ti(1346 mhz) .

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013...oc_gtx_760_overclocking_review/5#.UkcU-H_3x8E

15% faster in Crysis 3 High settings 4x SMAA, 10% faster in Farcry 3 Ultra 4X MSAA, 20+% faster in Tombraider

3GB VRAM. better suited for next gen games like BF4. and then comes the added advantage of Mantle in BF4 and other Frostbite 3 titles.

the decision is quite easy. at average overclocks HD 7950(1.15 ghz) is a GTX 670(1.25 ghz) competitor.

PCS+ HD 7950 has one of the quietest coolers. unlocked voltage. at USD 210 (180 after MIR) its a amazing deal.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/35033-powercolor-radeon-hd-7950-pcs/?page=12
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_7950_PCS_Plus/26.html
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/powercolor_pcs_hd_7950_review,9.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/powercolor_radeon_hd_7950_pcs_review,9.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131458
 

ShintaiDK

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At least prices go down when technology and products are stagnant. There is a year to go before something new comes. Enjoy the new 3 year cycles. Cant be fun for AMD to continual be outsold 2:1 either.
 

raghu78

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How is the 7950 at 1440p compared with SLI GTX460s?

I know the GTX460 is limited on ram, but it does everything I need great at 1080p. I am considering moving to a 1440p monitor, but I don't want to upgrade to a card and know that I'm going to start sacrificing detail. Should I wait out for another generation?
Going to 1440p would be more about getting more real estate on the Desktop rather than higher resolution in games, but when playing games, I don't want anything outside native resolution. I'm hesitant to X-fire AMD cards at this point...

HD 7950 boost is faster than GTX 560 Ti SLI.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7950_X2_Boost/28.html

1920 x 1200

GTX 560 Ti - 59
HD 7950(950 mhz) - 100 ( 59 x 1.7 = 100.3)
HD 7970 Ghz - 115

SLI scaling in best cases is 1.8x but on average across many games its 1.6x. So HD 7950(950 mhz) is faster than GTX 560 Ti SLI. with 3GB VRAM you have sufficient VRAM for 1440p. With a HD 7950 at 1.125 - 1.15 Ghz perf matches HD 7970 Ghz and you can even play Crysis 3 at Very high FXAA at 30+ fps. :thumbsup:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...1369-nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-2gb-review-5.html
 
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