Not really, because you can overclock the 860k.
They are not technically identical due to one having an unlocked multiplier and the other being locked. Furthermore, the clockspeed differences between the two chips are not exactly trivial.
With that mentioned, being technically identical wasn't even the topic of discussion.
Here was your original comment:
Regardless of the reasons that motivated the price cuts, actually might have reached the point of an interest value proposition for the low end market. They are now much more aligned with Haswell pricing, which may sway some consumers towards them if iGPU performance is an issue and CPU ST performance might be traded for this extra iGPU power.
That's a far more realistic pricing policy, one that they should have adopted since Kaveri launch. Why try to keep a certain level of margin and bleed market share every quarter? Better take the hit but shore up sales. If this decision was a voluntary change of mindset on AMD's HQ, that's a very good sign from the new management, but if this decision was forced on them... well, 2016 can't come fast enough.
That is incorrect.... They are technically identical chips -- they are both fabbed on identical Kaveri silicon -- with each respective chip having certain features disabled. You are definitely wrong. Intel bins identical silicon in different speed grades/disables features as well. This is common in the industry.
Ill tell you what,
You go and buy a couple of APUs like A10-7850K and FM2+ motherboard. Then go and spend hours running the same benchmarks i use on my reviews.
If you find my numbers to be wrong, then i will stop posting them here. Until then, you doint even have the right to question my benchmarks, especially using laughable excuses.
That is incorrect.... They are technically identical chips -- they are both fabbed on identical Kaveri silicon -- with each respective chip having certain features disabled. You are definitely wrong.
3). The 7600 is probably overclockable, but I have seen no documented evidence of anyone actually doing so. Seems a bit odd, really. That being said, there are far too many FM2+ boards that crap out at 105 mhz bclk, so you have to be choosy when selecting a board when attempting a Kaveri overclock. The only one I can vouch for is the A88x-Plus. My guess is that the A88x-Pro and Crossblade Ranger could do the same.
BTW, has anyone else noticed the price drop to the A4-4000? It's new MSRP is $27. Not even thirty bucks -- that's cheaper than an AM1 Sempron 2650....... That seems like the new low buck processor for casual gamers.....
If you think everyone should be running an AMD APU, why don't you hand out the ones AMD gives you?
I wonder if any of the budget boards could manage a halfway decent BCLK overclock on the A8-7600 with AHCI disabled?
Regardless of the reasons that motivated the price cuts, actually might have reached the point of an interest value proposition for the low end market. They are now much more aligned with Haswell pricing, which may sway some consumers towards them if iGPU performance is an issue and CPU ST performance might be traded for this extra iGPU power.
That's a far more realistic pricing policy, one that they should have adopted since Kaveri launch. Why try to keep a certain level of margin and bleed market share every quarter? Better take the hit but shore up sales. If this decision was a voluntary change of mindset on AMD's HQ, that's a very good sign from the new management, but if this decision was forced on them... well, 2016 can't come fast enough.
I wonder if any of the budget boards could manage a halfway decent BCLK overclock on the A8-7600 with AHCI disabled?
And speding a little more will get you more performance to play games at Medium settings, then speding a little more will get you more performance to play at higher IQ settings. And speding a little more will allow you to game at 1600p. But you can always spend a little more to game at 4K and so on.
There are so many free PC games now and new are introduced every month that you can spend hours playing every month without even buying a single game ever.
EDIT: it's also a great difference if you can play a game reasonabel @ native resolution (usually 1080p) vs having to use 720p and get blur.
This 100%. First target is not 720p or whatever. Its gaming at native resolution.
No because you will quirky hit diminish returns. 100% more for $100 only works at the basic level. Then it's quickly $200 more for maybe 30% better and so forth.
Then it gets ugly, but up to $300-400 for almost every $100 spend, you get almost 100% more performance increasing IQ and resolution.
Do you mean SATA disabled entirely, or just that the controller is set to IDE mode? How would you boot? USB? PCI-E SSD? (The latter seems like an expensive proposition, just to overclock a non-K/BE Kaveri CPU.)
He probably means setting the controller to IDE mode.
Given how important an SSD can be for performance these days, any solution that prohibits their use seems like a poor choice, unless you're really sure that your use case is not storage-intensive.
Herp derp, no one calls the FX 4300 and FX 8350 "technically identical" because they happen to be the same die.
Those are difficult to find.
Right now the cheapest regular price I can find for a FM2 dual core is the A4-7300 at $40 free shipping from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new
(Unfortunately they are claiming 3 to 5 weeks for delivery. Previously, they were out of stock)