AMD Price Cuts

[Phynaz]

TR has the details.

http://techreport.com/news/27246/amd-cuts-a-series-desktop-processor-prices

 

[frozentundra123456]

Getting there. The 7850k still seems a bit expensive, but the A8-7600 looks attractive. I have always said the 7850K was way overpriced, but it is getting there now. At least it is cheaper than an i5.

 

[Smoblikat]

Meh, a used Phenom 2 X6 can be had for less and would be a more cost effective alternative.

 

[AtenRa]

At last Trinity/Richland inventories are drying out and 28nm production is going up.
A10-7850K at $143 and A8-7600 at $92 will make them very competitive.

 

[AtenRa]

Getting there. The 7850k still seems a bit expensive, but the A8-7600 looks attractive. I have always said the 7850K was way overpriced, but it is getting there now. At least it is cheaper than an i5.

If those prices are correct, it is even cheaper than some high-end Core i3s as well.

 

[Roland00Address]

The A8-7600 and the A10-7700k look to the be the good skus if you want to go AMD. I can make a reasonable case for these apu prices. The A10-7850k vs A8-7600 in games is between 10 to 25% faster for the A10 but more often the 10% faster, same thing with cpu only 10% faster for the A10.

That said you can make the reasonable upsale for those extra $50 to go from an A8-7600 to A10 7850k. Same thing with the $30 to go from A8-7600 to A10-7700k no increase in CUs but an unlocked multiplier.

Question what was the rational to call the A10-7700k vs A8-7700k? The 7700k has only 6 graphic CUs, all the other A10 parts had 8 graphic CU and all the other A8 parts have 6 CU.

 

[hungtran]

If those prices are correct, it is even cheaper than some high-end Core i3s as well.

A10s are also coming with Murdered: Soul suspect, Thief, or Sniper Elite 3. If the retailers discount them, some A10s can be had for less than $100 with a free game.

The decision to slash prices so heavily might be one of Lisa's first moves as CEO. If so, she seems to be more in touch with the market than her predecessor. Hopefully, that value proposition translates to new AMD products also.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The 7700K looks like such a misplaced SKU. 31$ more than a 7600 and basicly offers the same, but at 95W TDP tho unlocked.

I wonder if this is part of AMDs new leadership. Since Kaveri when released had a quite steep increase in cost vs previous. And sales havent exactly been good.

And the 7400K is just hard to justify. But I guess they cant put the price lower due to Kabini sitting there.

The 7600 is absolutely the best priced and most desireable.

 

[Cerb]

Meh, a used Phenom 2 X6 can be had for less and would be a more cost effective alternative.

Not for many users. The APUs have superior IGP than what you can get with 7-900 chipsets, better IO, and use much lower power.

The 7850K is still too high, though. I can't see the value, without the prices compressed closer to the 7600 (like maybe have the 7850K be $140, and 7800 $130).

 

[Cerb]

If those prices are correct, it is even cheaper than some high-end Core i3s as well.

That's already been the case, with no more than checking NE's combo lists. Right now, you can also get $25-26 off that, with a lot of mobos having $10 MIRs, the CM N200 having a -$15 combo, and the NZXT H230 having a -$16 combo.

Unless you also want a CLC or BD writer, most of the i3-4150 combo deals make it more expensive than buying it alone, and most of the Pentium combos are equally absurd, but even lower in discounts (high-end RAM, CLCs, etc., with a Pentium).

If not getting it to either OC, or run FreeBSD on, I'd get the A8-7600 over Pentiums any day, and on any day, you can pretty much always find some way to make it work for a mere $25 or so over Pentium build cost, from TD or NE (TD usually in the form of barebones kits).

$92 will only make it even sweeter.

 

[MisterLilBig]

I don't get the reasoning of lowering the 7850K to the price of a 7600. It's the fastest gaming iGPU available, it has Mantle, TrueAudio and HSA. It has no competition.

I agree that it came out at a much higher price than I expected tho. But, I figured they would go up $10-20, each gen, after moving away from CPU's to APU's.


Great for customers tho!

 

[monstercameron]

I don't get the reasoning of lowering the 7850K to the price of a 7600. It's the fastest gaming iGPU available, it has Mantle, TrueAudio and HSA. It has no competition.

I agree that it came out at a much higher price than I expected tho. But, I figured they would go up $10-20, each gen, after moving away from CPU's to APU's.


Great for customers tho!

get rid of inventory for carrizo!?

 

[Cerb]

I don't get the reasoning of lowering the 7850K to the price of a 7600.

It's not. It's going to $140, $30 above the old 7600 price.

The problem isn't the CPU's features. It's that at the cost of an i5, an i5 is a no-brainer if you don't care about the IGP (Haswell's is quite functional, if feature- and option-limited), and is edging into a budget that can fit a dGPU.

At $170, an i5 is better if you care about CPU performance, and it's a mere $50 from being able to get an i3 and GTX 750 (possibly even Ti, depending on the day) (or a R7 260(X)), which would be better for low-end gaming ($50 counts using cheaper RAM, which would be unsuitable for just IGP).

Unless your intent is to substantially OC it, and use the IGP, it was in a bad middle ground, as were the non-K ones.

 

[cbn]

Glad to see the A6-7400K drop from $85 to $58.

 

[NTMBK]

Thank goodness. Kaveri was priced too high from the beginning.

 

[cbn]

And the 7400K is just hard to justify. But I guess they cant put the price lower due to Kabini sitting there.

Socket AM1 is unique for AMD in that the Mini-ITX boards are much much cheaper than the FM2+ Mini-ITX boards. (So even if AMD dropped the price on the A6-7400K even lower, the overall price for A6-7400K Mini-ITX would still a good deal higher.)

The Micro ATX price differences between FM2+ and AM1 are much smaller though.

 

[escrow4]

If those prices are correct, it is even cheaper than some high-end Core i3s as well.

Why bother paying $143 for a 7850K when a $160 3.8GHz i3 would spank it all day every day CPU wise?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117446

http://ark.intel.com/products/77495/Intel-Core-i3-4370-Processor-4M-Cache-3_80-GHz

Gaming on the iGPU also doesn't make sense when you can drop to the 4360 or 4330 and slap in a 750 Ti for a way better all round system. That has always been the problem with an APU, its a really niche product that doesn't really fit in anywhere.

 

[cbn]

and most of the Pentium combos are equally absurd, but even lower in discounts (high-end RAM, CLCs, etc., with a Pentium).

I don't pay much attention to the Miscellaneous Pentium G3258 combos, but Newegg does have on occasion some really good budget Non-Z and Z board combos.

I only wish we could see the same from AMD. Having that boost from the retailer makes for a much better value when it comes to assembling a DIY system IMO.

With that mentioned, what I think we really need is a budget priced FM2+ Mini-ITX motherboard (A55/A58 which nobody is using for Mini-ITX would work). That would definitely fill a niche and make a nice combo part IMO.

 

[monstercameron]

Why bother paying $143 for a 7850K when a $160 3.8GHz i3 would spank it all day every day CPU wise?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117446

http://ark.intel.com/products/77495/Intel-Core-i3-4370-Processor-4M-Cache-3_80-GHz

Gaming on the iGPU also doesn't make sense when you can drop to the 4360 or 4330 and slap in a 750 Ti for a way better all round system. That has always been the problem with an APU, its a really niche product that doesn't really fit in anywhere.

and desktop dgpus aren't niche? The apus make perfect sense for gaming and have respectable performance.

 

[cbn]

and desktop dgpus aren't niche? The apus make perfect sense for gaming and have respectable performance.

Well most of the DIY enclosures on the market today are meant to house a discrete video card.

In fact, at the extreme budget level it is much easier to find an enclosure that is meant to take a video card than a smaller enclosure that will not.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Wonder if they will lower the price on the Athlon x4 860k. It is now very close to the new price of the A8 7600, which has an igp. Sure it overclocks, but seems like they should cut the price on that 15 or 20 bucks.

 

[geoxile]

Carrizo announcement soon?

 

[escrow4]

and desktop dgpus aren't niche? The apus make perfect sense for gaming and have respectable performance.

If you want console level gameplay you may as well buy a console. If you don't game the performance isn't respectable when an i3 is a faster option.

 

[monstercameron]

If you want console level gameplay you may as well buy a console. If you don't game the performance isn't respectable when an i3 is a faster option.

I really don't know what you are on about. Kaveri plays most games at modest settings and the most popular ones at near max. Good enough is good enough.

 

[ElFenix]

The 7700K looks like such a misplaced SKU. 31$ more than a 7600 and basicly offers the same, but at 95W TDP tho unlocked.

I wonder if this is part of AMDs new leadership. Since Kaveri when released had a quite steep increase in cost vs previous. And sales havent exactly been good.

And the 7400K is just hard to justify. But I guess they cant put the price lower due to Kabini sitting there.

The 7600 is absolutely the best priced and most desireable.

i have to wonder if kaveri was up in price just to move trinity/richland parts? intel's previous parts dry up almost immediately upon release of a new one, but we're still seeing trinity parts on sale in quantity.

7600 and 7800 are the most compelling SKUs in AMD's desktop lineup. moving up the ladder 1 increment doesn't get you much performance increase for the price or power consumption hit. not that my microcenter has ever had one. still have plenty of richland, though.

microcenter is already selling the 7850k at $140, wonder if they'll drop it further?

If you want console level gameplay you may as well buy a console. If you don't game the performance isn't respectable when an i3 is a faster option.

i wonder how each runs LoL?

edit: question answered:
http://www.techspot.com/review/785-free-to-play-games-benchmarks/page4.html