AMD does bad on a game, so throw it out of the review? Oh-kay!
I seriously think some of you guys should really start your own reviews. You can pick the games, the settings, and the conclusions! It be perfect!
But, don't be surprised when other forum posters sit in a thread and go "why is that game in that review? Throw it out."
Why bench anything?
If you have concerns about how it performs. Wow perf is so high it doesn't even matter anymore
AMD does bad on a game, so throw it out of the review? Oh-kay!
I seriously think some of you guys should really start your own reviews. You can pick the games, the settings, and the conclusions! It be perfect!
But, don't be surprised when other forum posters sit in a thread and go "why is that game in that review? Throw it out."
It's part of the overall performance spec. It's not as simple as you say.Then just skip that page in the review?
AMD does bad on a game, so throw it out of the review? Oh-kay!
I seriously think some of you guys should really start your own reviews. You can pick the games, the settings, and the conclusions! It be perfect!
But, don't be surprised when other forum posters sit in a thread and go "why is that game in that review? Throw it out."
Yeah, that's what I said... NOT. Cheap tactics exaggerating someone's point to make it wrong rather than addressing it.
It's part of the overall performance spec. It's not as simple as you say.
That's not what he said at all if you stop for a bit and think about it, seriously chill.
Basically there's games that favor one side of the other. Soon with the next wave of games, it's all AAA AMD sponsored titles was my point. It should make AMD look better in benchmarks because the GameWorks wave is over for this year. Right? Any other AAA GW title due soon?
Can't really address the concern of people voicing selective screening. You don't like the contents of the review, don't use. If other people want to use it, that's their decision.
So we're back to "AMD does bad on this game, throw it out."
Why not just look at the games you play? That's what I do. Then I just look at the overall to get an idea of how the product will perform across a bunch of games (even some I'd probably never touch) like this:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_Fury_Strix/11.html
Not my cup of tea, should be removed.
And if it doesn't? If NV pulls another rabbit oh just like every other Gaming Evolved title that once favored AMD. Then what?
What if all games favor one side [over] the other?
Again I'm not saying if a brand does bad throw it out. I'm saying if it's an obvious outlier it shouldn't be used to compare performance as it's atypical of the answer you are looking for.
I don't play BF4 either. It's a games that isn't biased towards one brand or the other though. Again, nowhere did I say I have to like the game.
You can count on the GE titles not being biased unless, heaven forbid, AMD decides to adopt shady practices in defense. If that happens it's going to be Xbox1 vs. PS4. Everyone will need two gaming PC's.
And if it doesn't? If NV pulls another rabbit oh just like every other Gaming Evolved title that once favored AMD. Then what?
What if all games favor one side [over] the other?
Not every. Ryse, SoM, Hitman, Sniper Elite series and Civ BE still run faster on AMD.
There's one thing in common with those games, they use a lot more compute features and deferred lightning via compute or asynchronous compute (Sniper 3).
With DX12 opening up Asynchronous Compute for more devs, I think future is bright on AMD GPUs.
Either way I think AMD will have to play fire with fire and go dirty, close source features to survive because GameWorks is giving them their worse nightmare with the "AMD drivers suck, see, no CF in Batman AK again!" mantra repeated en-mass. But I hate it if AMD goes dirty, I prefer they remain ethical and develop open features.
Doing some quick checks, yerp, 2-5% in some games. But not enough to offset where NV wins by 10-15% in those outliers (would explain why some would want them removed, I guess).
Depends on whether compute is pushed or not, could skew towards GCN a lot.
Why have you got to be so disingenuous? It's not 10%-15%. It's 25% on avg for those 3. You take those three out and Fury is ~13.5% faster. That's actually much more of an accurate portrayal of their performance. Consider that Fury is faster in 15 of 19 games. It's simply the faster card overall. But it's a bigger difference than the 7% in the overall rating would lead you to believe.
I'm willing to wager that TPU won't allow that to happen. They will just stack the deck to keep nVidia looking like the faster solution.
They dropped surround/Eyefinity because nVidia looked so bad with their benchmark suite. Unlike TechReport they aren't willing to completely change their entire benchmark suite (bar one game which they instead started benching in a different spot) to suite nVidia. With 19 games it would just be horribly obvious if they changed more than a couple out at a time.
Odd, I said 10-15% you said 13.5%, falls right between my number. What's the problem? Sorry I didn't whip out a calculator, hell I didn't even notice Civ BE numbers favored AMD so far (yet I don't see you throwing them out as outliers ).
railven said:Awwww, more of that tin foil theorem. Haha. Curse them shill sites!
You said 10%-15% in the outliers, not overall. Who's story is changing?
Wow! Not even trying to hide that you are trolling.
Why have you got to be so disingenuous? It's not 10%-15%. It's 25% on avg for those 3. You take those three out and Fury is ~13.5% faster. That's actually much more of an accurate portrayal of their performance. Consider that Fury is faster in 15 of 19 games. It's simply the faster card overall. But it's a bigger difference than the 7% in the overall rating would lead you to believe.
Sure. Now take out every game in which FuryX is largely faster.
Keep it up and eventually we won't be allowed to bench ANY games at all, lest god forbid somebody loses.
3DVagabond. All games should be benched. All cards must show the best they can do. It is utterly silly to believe otherwise and selectively choose which part of which game should be benched at which reduced settings so the other company can compete and look better. Because that is exactly what you are suggesting. And you have the nerve to call Railven a troll?
Also, enough with the "I didn't say that" square dance. Say what you mean so it isn't left up to any interpretation if you don't mind. Getting so if anyone quote's you word for word, you may say "that's not what I meant".
Stop. Please.