AMD Radeon 7990 reviews thread

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Black Octagon

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Steady45 fps with all eye candy vs 60 fps with compromises....I'll take the former any time.

Steady 60fps with all eye candy vs 120fps with compromises...I'll take the latter any time.

And what precisely do EITHER of our opinions have to do with reviews of the Radeon HD7990?
 

AdamK47

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PC gaming wasn't all about 60 FPS. Back in the 3Dfx Voodoo days most everything you played was sub 60 fps. You would need a top of the line Pentium 2 400MHz and two Voodoo 2s in SLI just to get 60 fps. 0x AA and 0x anisotropic filterting.
 

VulgarDisplay

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PC gaming wasn't all about 60 FPS. Back in the 3Dfx Voodoo days most everything you played was sub 60 fps. You would need a top of the line Pentium 2 400MHz and two Voodoo 2s in SLI just to get 60 fps. 0x AA and 0x anisotropic filterting.

Up hill both ways, in the snow.
 

crashtech

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Actually, back then if you could get 30fps you were doing well. I thought Quake2 was just the cat's meow through my first Voodoo(1) card.
 

Rvenger

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One whole frame, same minimums. Margin of error. CPU bottleneck bud.
 

bystander36

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One whole frame, same minimums. Margin of error. CPU bottleneck bud.

Definitely not a CPU bottleneck. People are getting much higher FPS than that and in most reviews, Nvidia is showing well in Crysis 3. The minimum is likely a CPU bottleneck, but not the average.
 
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PC gaming wasn't all about 60 FPS. Back in the 3Dfx Voodoo days most everything you played was sub 60 fps. You would need a top of the line Pentium 2 400MHz and two Voodoo 2s in SLI just to get 60 fps. 0x AA and 0x anisotropic filterting.

Obviously time has moved on since then.. GLQuake was only running at 25fps for me on the Verite, but it did have built in AA, AF etc which the voodoo did NOT have (resulting textures and game look bland and aliased), but managed 35fps... guess which became more popular and for what reason?

Voodoo won out because 35fps was simply a better gaming experience than 25fps with better eye candy. It's also a fast shooter, you need faster fps. Fast forward to recent times, the standard has shifted to 60fps because most monitors are at 60hz, and its the magical zone where the general gaming population is satisfied with smoothness and low latency for fast gameplay. Sure, 120fps IS better, but its still niche.
 

bystander36

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Obviously time has moved on since then.. GLQuake was only running at 25fps for me on the Verite, but it did have built in AA, AF etc which the voodoo did NOT have (resulting textures and game look bland and aliased), but managed 35fps... guess which became more popular and for what reason?

Voodoo won out because 35fps was simply a better gaming experience than 25fps with better eye candy. It's also a fast shooter, you need faster fps. Fast forward to recent times, the standard has shifted to 60fps because most monitors are at 60hz, and its the magical zone where the general gaming population is satisfied with smoothness and low latency for fast gameplay. Sure, 120fps IS better, but its still niche.

While those of us who hang out on the forums find 60hz or higher the standard, when ever you see newcomers show up for advice on stuff, they usually ask for what will get them 30-40 FPS. More people are moving on to 60 FPS, but there still seems to be plenty of people who are fine with less.
 

Eureka

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While those of us who hang out on the forums find 60hz or higher the standard, when ever you see newcomers show up for advice on stuff, they usually ask for what will get them 30-40 FPS. More people are moving on to 60 FPS, but there still seems to be plenty of people who are fine with less.

Hell, I'm on this forum and I still find 30 fps plenty.
 

toyota

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Hell, I'm on this forum and I still find 30 fps plenty.
then there is something wrong with your vision. lol

30 fps feels like sluggish poop in most games. and 30 fps is abysmal feeling and blurry when just panning around. even when I play my console games I want to gouge my eyes out at times as its just horrible looking when panning around compared to 60 fps. and with a controller its not even as bad looking as using the mouse.
 
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Souv

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So, why is nVidia faster in Crysis 3? :sneaky:


http://pclab.pl/art52982-5.html

I guess developers talk much when they get paid by a graphics company. D:



http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Crysi...e/2046899/#?a_id=1056491&g_id=-1&i_id=2046902

Amd won hands down when OC vs OC comparison is done on crysis 3 (in-game benchmark not canned demo)-



Crysis 3 in-game benchmark procedure for most accurate results-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxrjqhSAnAo

Now, the benchmarks-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S9qrWh20QU


(Linus stated that he ran the in-game testing no. of times for 670 but results are slower than 660 ti,may be due to driver issues...)
 
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Zanovar

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ill drop a setting or 2 for 60 just my thang.the settings i usually drop(shadows),dof etc.different strokes i guess.
 

VulgarDisplay

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Honestly this generation is boring because nvidia = amd at all price points they have a card at. Depending on where you run the test scene either company wins by a handful of frames. Bickering about who wins is pointless.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Honestly this generation is boring because nvidia = amd at all price points they have a card at. Depending on where you run the test scene either company wins by a handful of frames. Bickering about who wins is pointless.

Except Titan, yes.

Titan is special :thumbsup:
 
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