AMD Radeon 7990 reviews thread

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boxleitnerb

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Disappointed. I expected AMD to have better binned chips to match the power consumption of the 690. To launch the card now without the improved driver is unacceptable. They should have waited and released the card when hardware and software actually are ready.
 

Haserath

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Do runt fames matter?

Nvidia does meter theirs. So instead of producing a 'runt' they delay the next frame just enough to create two frames that will be considered tangible.

AMD delivered more frames, but they don't meter or delay their frames. Would it be better to make their frametimes more even with increased latency or keep their current srategy?
 

wand3r3r

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They have done "something" to fix them. AT is writing an article about the frametimes this week. (haven't read other reviews yet)

Now that I think about it, what does this card bring that a custom 7970x2 hasn't brought last summer (or whenever they were released)?

Lower power usage?
Whoop de doopty doo.
 

ICDP

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What a horrible, horrible graphics card. Overpriced, cheap looking and nowhere near worth the asking price considering it gets its assed kicked stupid by the GTX690.

Anyone who purchases this over a GTX690 needs their head examined.
 
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wand3r3r

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What a horrible, horrible graphics card. Overpriced, cheap looking and nowhere near worth the asking price price considering it gets its assed kicked stupid by the GTX690.

Anyone who purchases this over a GTX690 needs their head examined.

Where did you see it getting beat? In the AT review it was basically tied with the exception of Dirt 3 which is beat soundly. Granted that was based off of 10 games so I'm curious where you are reading otherwise. (will check later)

imo (so far) it's equal to the 690, but waaay late to the game (presuming the stutter is fixed).

As far as performance goes, it’s interesting to note that if we throw out the extremely lopsided DiRT: Showdown, the GTX 690 and the 7990 are statistically tied at 2560x1400: the 7990 delivers 100% of the performance of the GTX 690.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6915/amd-radeon-hd-7990-review-7990-gets-official/17
 

BallaTheFeared

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Toms used the nvidia developed tool and 13.5b2, there is a huge difference between current drivers and the fix, it's good to see but man it's a long time coming.

Toms came to the conclusion the 690 is a better product at equal prices, but that's just their opinion.
 

Ibra

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Worst than Titan in every aspect: slow, power hungry, hot, lazy OC. :biggrin:



http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7990/23.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7990/25.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7990/27.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7990/28.html

Actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 4.1%.


Oh, God. If it runs 12 fps on 5760x1080, so on 3840x2160 it runs 20 fps. :biggrin:

3DMark Fire Strike Extreme result only increased about 1%
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-HD-7990-6GB-Review-Malta-Gets-Frame-Rated
 

Jaydip

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Instead of releasing this card they should have tried to take back the sgpu performance crown from NV.That way many people who prefer sgpu over mgpu would be pleased.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Instead of releasing this card they should have tried to take back the sgpu performance crown from NV.That way many people who prefer sgpu over mgpu would be pleased.

That would have cost them money, and probably required a new node... Neither of which are really feasible at this time.
 

Jaydip

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That would have cost them money, and probably required a new node... Neither of which are really feasible at this time.

Nothing is free Balla :biggrin: dropping a card one year later which is marginally better than 690 is stupid IMO.
 
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Worst than Titan in every aspect: slow, power hungry, hot, lazy OC. :biggrin:

Interesting how it looks when you remove useless low resolutions and blizzard games (which hardly need gpu grunt to begin with):





As you may or may not know, 150 fps in BF3 is reaching CPU bottleneck. I guess you know it but decided to omit such facts when you are too busy with bias.
 
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BallaTheFeared

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It's not even marginally better is it, they're pretty similar I thought?

Draws more power, runs slightly cooler/quieter with a much larger chassis and three fans.

Consumes more power, doesn't have as smooth of frame delivery...

My guess is it didn't cost much to toss together, and it will be a low production product niche product to hit their fanbase. It's not even really priced competitively for an AMD product, even against their own stack.
 
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That would have cost them money, and probably required a new node... Neither of which are really feasible at this time.

They could if they wanted, its a small die, 365mm2 has plenty of room. But it was never their goals to compete with massive dies. They simply lack the HPC profit margins to subsidize consumer graphics like NV can.

Those who want smooth frame time without using 3rd party tools, well its coming and according to PCPer, it works. For the rest, there's radeon pro.
 

ICDP

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Where did you see it getting beat? In the AT review it was basically tied with the exception of Dirt 3 which is beat soundly. Granted that was based off of 10 games so I'm curious where you are reading otherwise. (will check later)

imo (so far) it's equal to the 690, but waaay late to the game (presuming the stutter is fixed).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6915/amd-radeon-hd-7990-review-7990-gets-official/17

Statistics are not always a reflection of reality. Without the CF fix the card might show it is matching a GTX690 but the reality is it is far lower without FPS limiters or vsync. Then of course these limiters will reduce the overall performance meaning it is no longer matching the GTX690.

I can play Tomb Raider on my CF 7950s (1100/1450) at around 68 FPS average but it looks like maybe 15 FPS at best. CF out of the box is an absolutely horrible experience and is a total and utter stutter fest. Games actually play far smoother in single GPU mode even though the FPS is far lower. The only way to fix it is to use FPS limiters or vsync. I am happy to use these workarounds but not everyone is.

An AMD CF solution showing the same FPS as an SLI solution is not in any way giving the same experience.

  • Same price as the GTX690 that was released a year ago.
  • Statistically similar performance but in reality has worse performance due to poor CF drivers.
  • Uses more power for less performance
  • Fixed drivers will not be released for another month or two.
Yeah, it's a great card. One year late, brings nothing new to the party and has broken drivers. Go AMD
 
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Gikaseixas

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A little too late to the party, almost a year
Offers nothing new, just the same as a GTX 690 (a bit faster with optimal scalling), so i'm not really excited.

This thing has the potential of being the king of hill once the prototype drivers arrive in a month or so.
 

Ibra

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Interesting how it looks when you remove useless low resolutions and blizzard games (which hardly need gpu grunt to begin with):





As you may or may not know, 150 fps in BF3 is reaching CPU bottleneck. I guess you know it but decided to omit such facts when you are too busy with bias.

Complete AMD lunatic. :awe: So lets remove locked performance Gaming Evolved titles.

Oh wait, it's power hungry. Remove useless power plug. It's 0 W.
 

Souv

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7990 malta benchmarks-

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/04/24/amd-radeon-hd-7990-6gb-review/1

http://www.sweclockers.com/recension/16879-amd-radeon-hd-7990-malta/1

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_hd_7990_review,1.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7990-review-benchmark,3486-8.html
(a/tom's bench,the amd prototype driver(7990) improves significant performance and frame time variance)

Now just waiting from one of my favourite gpu bench reviewer linus tech tips for 7990 malta review,as linus always do in-game benchmark(not canned pre-built bench) with video for detail benchmark procedure explanation so we can compare it for ourselves(nothing to hide/cheat).Hence,Linus is one of the most honest gpu benchmark reviewer and I am eagerly waiting for his review of malta 7990...

btw Linus recently benched 7790(154$) @ 1080p(314.22 whql vs 13.1 whql,sadly no 13.3 beta 3)-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpYJfjXnQmc

His 7990 stack got delayed in shipping and will probably get it at the end of the week
 
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Dribble

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Once the drivers that fix the worst of the stuttering arrive looks like a decent card just too late. Titan is the better choice over these top end dual cards - sure you loose a few fps but it just works so much more consistently without xfire/sli in the way. You don't spend $1000 to fight with graphics drivers if you can help it.

Even if you will only buy AMD you'd be better off buying two single cards for significantly less money - particularly as you get two gaming evolved bundles that way so can sell one of them.

Can't see who will actually buy one of these?
 

Souv

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They could if they wanted, its a small die, 365mm2 has plenty of room. But it was never their goals to compete with massive dies. They simply lack the HPC profit margins to subsidize consumer graphics like NV can.

Those who want smooth frame time without using 3rd party tools, well its coming and according to PCPer, it works. For the rest, there's radeon pro.

Tom's also tested radeon pro and it's great software for radeon users...
I personally use radeon pro and believe me it's a miracle of a software if you can set the custom profile properly...right now playing bioshock infinite with silky smooth 60 fps and as always set with r-pro custom profile.Also download the latest version available.

I set radeon pro custom profile with double vsync on,triple buffering on and dynamic frame control to 55 or 60 fps,and it worked for me flawlessly with single-gpu set up till now..
 

wand3r3r

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The bulk of our gaming involved AMD’s Catalyst 13.5 Beta 2 driver. However, I surprised the group by dropping AMD’s special prototype driver onto the Radeon HD 7990-equipped machine. Without telling anyone what the software was supposed to do, I asked them to retry titles they had already played. Again, the response was universal: action on the dual-Tahiti board was noticeably smoother in most games, but seemed intermittently choppy in a couple of others (Crysis 3 and Tomb Raider).

Sounds interesting. Not $1k interesting though.

So originally in the blind test everyone noticed the 690 was smoother. With the prototype they could all see a noticeable improvement except in those two games.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7990-review-benchmark,3486-13.html
 
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