AMD Radeon HD 9970 Specifications Leaked – Twice as fast as GTX 780 (ChipLoco rumor)

[Termie]

3DCenter weighed in on Hawaii's projected performance based off the latest specs.

7990 - 600%
690 - 580%
Titan Ultra - 530-550%
R9 290X (2816 shaders) - 485-510%
R9 290X (2560 shaders) - 465-490%
Titan - 480%
780 - 440%
7970Ghz - 390%

or with the 7970Ghz at 100%

7990 - 154%
690 - 149%
Titan Ultra - 136-141%
R9 290X (2816 shaders) - 124-131%
R9 290X (2560 shaders) - 119-126%
Titan - 123%
780 - 113%
7970Ghz - 100%

Of course that isn't taking into account overclocking or user tweaks for performance (i.e. an aftermarket 780 with sliders maxed would probably perform a lot higher than shown above).

It's going to be on the lower end of that due to the slower core clock of the new chip versus the 7970 GHz. Plus, I agree the 780/Titan lead on the 7970GHz isn't quite right.

I'd estimate it at 25% faster than the 7970 GHz and about 35% faster than the original 7970. My guess is that it will slot right in between the 780 and Titan, and should sell for $550-600, ideally the lower-end of that if AMD wants to sell these. Unlike when the 7970 was introduced, there actually is a faster card on the market, so the premiums won't play as well. These would sell like hotcakes at $500, but I don't see AMD being that bold.

 

[HurleyBird]

It's going to be on the lower end of that due to the slower core clock of the new chip versus the 7970 GHz.

Stock clocks could be misleading depending on how turbo behaves. For all we know, Hawaii could boost up to 1100MHz, or maybe only to 950MHz -- probably somewhere in-between. We also don't know how often the chip will hit it's maximum boost speed. In any case, comparisons based on clock speed aren't as relevant as they were pre-turbo boost.

 

[NostaSeronx]

General consensus:
Hawaii XT launches gets instantly shot down by Titan Ultra.

 

[hyrule4927]

General consensus:
Hawaii XT launches gets instantly shot down by Titan Ultra.

I don't know if a GPU can "shoot down" a GPU that is in an entirely different price bracket.

 

[NostaSeronx]

I don't know if a GPU can "shoot down" a GPU that is in an entirely different price bracket.

If you think prices are static with competition, you should go back to the 280 GTX/580 GTX days man.

 

[Imouto]

If you think prices are static with competition, you should go back to the 280 GTX/580 GTX days man.

So Nvidia will be forced to lower its prices for 780, Titan and Titan Ultra? I don't think that is getting shot down.

Or you really think that it will be slightly better than Titan and priced accordingly.

You're wrong either way.

 

[NostaSeronx]

So Nvidia will be forced to lower its prices for 780, Titan and Titan Ultra? I don't think that is getting shot down.

Nvidia isn't the one in debt, they aren't forced to to anything it is all casual competition and cartels.

Or you really think that it will be slightly better than Titan and priced accordingly.

Well if 3DCenter is correct on the counts then the 780 GTX and so on will be faster.

Really the only thing Nvidia needs to do is to drop prices casually:
GTX 780 from $650 to $600.
GTX Titan from $1000 to $700
GTX Titan Ultra from null to $800.

AMD gaining market share impeded.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I don't know if a GPU can "shoot down" a GPU that is in an entirely different price bracket.

Agree here.

 

[Gloomy]

so uh... twice as fast? :hmm:

 

[Elfear]

Well if 3DCenter is correct on the counts then the 780 GTX and so on will be faster.

Actually 3D Center is predicting the 780 will be slower.

All guessing at this point but it looks like specs at least are getting firmed up.

 

[Keysplayr]

Actually 3D Center is predicting the 780 will be slower.

All guessing at this point but it looks like specs at least are getting firmed up.

Amazing how two people can read the same exact thing and come away with completely different conclusions. I mean, it sounds pretty cut and dry, or at least it should be. Did 3D Center say the GTX780 or better will be faster like Nosta said? Or is 3D Center predicting the 780 will be slower as Elfear said?

Gotta luv it.

 

[The Alias]

Amazing how two people can read the same exact thing and come away with completely different conclusions. I mean, it sounds pretty cut and dry, or at least it should be. Did 3D Center say the GTX780 or better will be faster like Nosta said? Or is 3D Center predicting the 780 will be slower as Elfear said?

Gotta luv it.

bro, you saw the chart just like me and elfear did . The guy just misunderstood

 

[imaheadcase]

All I know is, if its faster than a GTX 780 Overclocked version, it better be available before BF4 comes out. If not I got a GTX 780 OC in shopping cart ready to click Buy.

 

[Elfear]

Amazing how two people can read the same exact thing and come away with completely different conclusions. I mean, it sounds pretty cut and dry, or at least it should be. Did 3D Center say the GTX780 or better will be faster like Nosta said? Or is 3D Center predicting the 780 will be slower as Elfear said?

Gotta luv it.

Just so we're all clear.



I'm not saying 3DCenter is right or wrong, just reporting what they have to say.

 

[TidusZ]

I have a dream where one day I will click on a multipage thread about a videocard soon to be released and find links to most recent information with associated discussion. Instead every time I do I see the same company A zealot vs company B zealot defending the home team. le sigh

To settle a lot of arguments now and in the future I will tell you which company is really the best right here and now so this can rest in peace:

The company with the best product at the best price in your price range on the day you make your purchase is always the best company.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

48 ROPS and Hawaii will be the card to beat. 32 and we can all crawl back into our hibernation chambers.

 

[BoFox]

48 ROPS and Hawaii will be the card to beat. 32 and we can all crawl back into our hibernation chambers.

Roger that. 48 is needed for high rez + AA, where 780/Titan currently dominate at. 32 ROPs with 10000 shaders (j/k ), and R9 280X will only be able to compete with 4x AA instead of 8x AA.

AMD just better not... AMD just better not... :ninja: ()

 

[DarkKnightDude]

"AMD was kind enough to give me an Hawaiian beauty from the Volcanic Islands http://imgur.com/1qpfcvs @AMDRadeon"

https://twitter.com/repi/status/381427050252234753

Looks pretty sleek, but not much else to say about it.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

The company with the best product at the best price in your price range on the day you make your purchase is always the best company.

Amen

 

[Phishy714]

"AMD was kind enough to give me an Hawaiian beauty from the Volcanic Islands http://imgur.com/1qpfcvs @AMDRadeon"

https://twitter.com/repi/status/381427050252234753

Looks pretty sleek, but not much else to say about it.

And by pretty sleek, you mean exactly the same as all the other reference design AMD cards?

 

[lehtv]

The 7970 did not look sleek. It looked like a plastic toy... well it is a plastic toy, but still.

 

[Fastx]

I like this w/removable fan screen filter imo.

 

[parvadomus]

512 bit bus anyone?

 

[badb0y]

"AMD was kind enough to give me an Hawaiian beauty from the Volcanic Islands http://imgur.com/1qpfcvs @AMDRadeon"

https://twitter.com/repi/status/381427050252234753

Looks pretty sleek, but not much else to say about it.

Looks like the industrial design of the HD 6000 series.

 

[blackened23]

512 bit memory bus confirmed, 2560 or 2880 stream processors still up in the air?