Yeah, I'm not sure how long these Vega prices can be sustained. These are decent cards, just not at the current asking price. I suppose if supply stays tight for the entire production life of the card, the prices will stay high. However, and I find this much more likely, if AMD actually makes enough of Vega chips, there will be a price drop in 3 months and in 6-12 months there will be a firesale on them.Given that every combo & individual card is sold out at Newegg & Best Buy for the RX, I think the prices make complete sense. At least in the US.
I think this was a borderline paper launch with negligible stock, so "selling out" doesn't really imply much in the way of actual sales numbers.
'member Tickle Me Elmo?Anyone complaining about Vega prices and availability at launch seems to have not followed this and other threads very long.
Remember Cabbage Patch dolls?
Possibly, but that's just speculation unless you have some proof? You have the sales numbers?I think this was a borderline paper launch with negligible stock, so "selling out" doesn't really imply much in the way of actual sales numbers.
I pre-ordered from NCIX Canada for the equivalent of $711 with the 2 games bundle for the 64 WC shiny edition.What are pre order prices for you guys on Vega64/56 , none even have the 56 listed. But the 64 is listed between 799-850 euro on average . Some stores in europe go all the way to 999 euro. At least there some more reasonable 650 euro pre orders. A solid 1080 Ti is like 750-850 euro. Can not blame the retailers but some are clearly scared for pricing it too low and are expecting not much stock anyway.
Yes it would be in their best interest to change prices based on market changes, but they should continually sell at the highest price they can as they are a business. So at least for right now, I don't agree with your statement that the "prices don't make sense". But I'm going to wait it out either way, if the prices never drop I just simply won't buy one.Yeah, I'm not sure how long these Vega prices can be sustained. These are decent cards, just not at the current asking price. I suppose if supply stays tight for the entire production life of the card, the prices will stay high. However, and I find this much more likely, if AMD actually makes enough of Vega chips, there will be a price drop in 3 months and in 6-12 months there will be a firesale on them.
I think this was a borderline paper launch with negligible stock, so "selling out" doesn't really imply much in the way of actual sales numbers.
AFAIK there were news reports that V56 is going to be released on 8/28 which is why we're not seeing any preorders yet.What are pre order prices for you guys on Vega64/56 , none even have the 56 listed.
Sure, current Vega prices make sense given current supply/demand curve, after all they're all out of stock. What I'm saying is it does not make sense given Vega performance and power consumption relative to widely available nVidia cards. You can buy aftermarket Gigabyte 1080 for $500 on newegg right now, or watercooled EVGA B-Stock 1080 for $520. Why would anyone pay $600 for V64? I honestly have no idea who's buying out all these Vega cards at current prices.Yes it would be in their best interest to change prices based on market changes, but they should continually sell at the highest price they can as they are a business. So at least for right now, I don't agree with your statement that the "prices don't make sense". But I'm going to wait it out either way, if the prices never drop I just simply won't buy one.
Possibly, but that's just speculation unless you have some proof? You have the sales numbers?
Sure, current Vega prices make sense given current supply/demand curve, after all they're all out of stock. What I'm saying is it does not make sense given Vega performance and power consumption relative to widely available nVidia cards. You can buy aftermarket Gigabyte 1080 for $500 on newegg right now. Why would anyone pay $600 for V64? I honestly have no idea who's buying out all these Vega cards at current prices.
Possibly, but that's just speculation unless you have some proof? You have the sales numbers?
No one outside of AMD has sales numbers.
But look at the way the launch/reviews happened. The reviewers only got 2 days with the cards before release, there are no partner cards. AIB makers when contacted stated it will be some time before there are any AIB cards.
Everything points to manufacturing just starting up, rushing out the first small batch of cards to reviewers and stores, so they can get the launch in as early as they can.
Normally manufacturers run manufacturing for some time to build up a big early stock to handle launch, so there is no problem getting cards to reviews well in advance while the launch supply builds up.
Everything says to me, that they launched VERY early right after starting production, perhaps only days after the initial run started, giving reviewers the first cards off the run, and little time to review them.
furyx vs Vega at same clock with same memory bandwidth + HBCC test(bellow).Btw vega 64 is 6%faster than furyx at same clock.Its regression from polaris IPC
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-08...itt_vega_64_vs_56_vs_fury_x_bei_gleichem_takt
There were many larger retailers that received thousands of units. That doesn't sound like a paper launch to me. There are a lot of people who have Freesync monitors and a lot of people who have been waiting for a Flagship AMD card.I think this was a borderline paper launch with negligible stock, so "selling out" doesn't really imply much in the way of actual sales numbers.
I've been super happy with my stuff that I've gotten from XFX. I used to get their stuff, simply because they had lifetime warranty on them.
i think I still have a XFX 9800GT and 8800GTS lying around here somewhere. Hot garbage nowadays but they still run some DX10 games fairly well.
XFX became my go-to after BFG packed up shop. Their 6, 7, 8 and 9 series NVIDIA cards were great and I still wish I had the AGP 7950 as they are quite rare. The only AMD card I've owned by way of XFX was a HD5970 black edition which I sold a few years back. Terrific GPU at the time of inception.
i think I still have a XFX 9800GT and 8800GTS lying around here somewhere. Hot garbage nowadays but they still run some DX10 games fairly well.
But hasn't it already been confirmed that vega isn't good for mining and especially not profitable at all for $600?AMD really needs the money so I can't really blame them, esp when miners will apparently sell it out even at $599.
Some posts ago there was speculation that there is anticipation driver improvements will really boost mining performance and it's worth the gamble to buy and wait and see. Fun to still have rumors even after the product is releasedBut hasn't it already been confirmed that vega isn't good for mining and especially not profitable at all for $600?
But hasn't it already been confirmed that vega isn't good for mining and especially not profitable at all for $600?