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To be fair, you don't know that.In essence: drivers not being ready and not optimized for this.
Could be a simple hardware limitation. We just don't know at this time.
To be fair, you don't know that.In essence: drivers not being ready and not optimized for this.
To be fair, you don't know that.
Could be a simple hardware limitation. We just don't know at this time.
Its the same pipeline as Nvidia hardware has. ROPs are connected to L2 cache.To be fair, you don't know that.
Could be a simple hardware limitation. We just don't know at this time.
Its the same pipeline as Nvidia hardware has. ROPs are connected to L2 cache.
When you look at the pipeline it is the same. Every meaningful engine in GPU pipeline is connected to L2 cache, instead of memory controller, and this is exactly the same thing as it is in Nvidia Pascal GPUs.Can't be exactly the same. Implementation details are often that makes all the difference. The "devil" is in the details. It may be things we never know, like individual cache and instruction latencies.
You can tell me any lie you want and I'll believe it but don't you lie to me that Santa Claus isn't real.Yes, it is perfectly legal to price a product uncompetitively.
Also, and I hope you're sitting down for this, Santa Claus isn't real.
Could someone explain to me why there is doubt of any custom AIB partners cards being released?
You'll probably want to wait and see how the aib models hold up to and see what issues there are with any of the aib cards. That's where there is even more variabilityI'm totally ok with there not being any non reference cards for a bit. I'd like to see what sort of driver support Vega gets and how the chips hold up under regular ownership.
As I thought, the AIBs will all go for the tri-X type cooling.
Asus's card:
https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RXVEGA64-O8G-GAMING/
I am betting this sucker is gonna run $580.
ETA supposedly in September, but, who knows at what count.
Also the 290/390 cards as well.Isn't this essentially what happened for Fury cards? It looks like they all used the AMD standard board and dropped their own triple fan on it to deal with the heat.
Vega consumes 380W still performs below 1080: http://www.hwbattle.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=hottopic&wr_id=7333
What an epic fail.
"What an epic fail"
I get it Vega is not the best gaming card - not meant to be, AMD packed compute performance in those cards so folks could use Adobe programs and stuff that the 1080 was not carved out to do. AMD made a more general use GPU- it was strategic and there is a market for it. The other side is Gaming experience - is there a big difference in gaming experience? from what i have seen - NO - for most,, the human eye cant pick up an extra few frame rates. when your not doing gaming and using adobe on those cards you need to draw power.
In a way the same strategy from Ryzen - leave everything open and let people use the product how they want. Ryzen is not a success because it is the best gaming CPU. It was gaming and using more cores to do other things that many people do now.
I think this was a borderline paper launch with negligible stock, so "selling out" doesn't really imply much in the way of actual sales numbers.
Then go buy that gsynch monitor. Why not?It's started already. Newegg has Liquid cooled 64s listed at $799. Looks like some of the others are up too. I'm seriously going to be looking at getting a G-sync monitor and going with Nvidia. At $499 the card was worth it. At $600 plus it isn't (to me).
Then go buy that gsynch monitor. Why not?
Add 200 to 800 usd each time you change your monitor.
Select your monitor from 20% of the models on the market.
Seems to me like lifelong tax on stupid people
XFX became my go-to after BFG packed up shop. Their 6, 7, 8 and 9 series NVIDIA cards were great and I still wish I had the AGP 7950 as they are quite rare. The only AMD card I've owned by way of XFX was a HD5970 black edition which I sold a few years back. Terrific GPU at the time of inception.
i think I still have a XFX 9800GT and 8800GTS lying around here somewhere. Hot garbage nowadays but they still run some DX10 games fairly well.
Woohoo have fun and report backJackie60: I'm on my way back home but while I was away I ordered an Acer E430K monitor so I'll test out your premise in the next 24 hours.
Looks like they have a custom PCB ready to go for theseIsn't this essentially what happened for Fury cards? It looks like they all used the AMD standard board and dropped their own triple fan on it to deal with the heat.
It's interesting how some games got astonishing games. BF1 and TF2 have 25% and 24% IPC gains respectively.Ooo, Vega vs Fiji IPC comparison. At least they did not regress vs Fiji. Polaris still better performance-per-flop, and Hawaii better still thanks to its balanced design. Still a shame we never got a Polaris with the same configuration as Hawaii. I think it would perform very close to Vega 56, and I cannot imagine it would be more expensive to produce than Vega.