That's really irrelevant. He asked about Newegg. You can't get "vouchers" with the $599 Vega 64 with the games. You have to buy all the hardware in the packs at time of purchase. So as far as the $599 Vega 64 goes, it comes with 2 games. The one he mentioned at $689 comes with.... 2 games. No vouchers or discounts on other stuff unless you look at the other combos on newegg. Again, I'm referring to entries on newegg, like he asked.No, the Radeon Black Pack has an MSRP of $599, which includes the games, as well as discounts on the monitor and motherboard/CPU combo.
https://www.kitguru.net/components/...-gibson-clears-up-rx-vega64-pricing-disaster/Gibson’s claims are corroborated by an additional source too, as Norwegian tech retailer, komplett.no, also spoke out, telling the site tek.no that the cheaper launch price for RX Vega64 was limited to just 275 cards to allow it to appear more favourable at launch. Here is the full quote translated:
“Komplett.no today confirms to Tek.no that the price of just over 5,000 kroner was limited to a limited edition of 275 graphics cards, as the company – as one of AMD’s “selected” online stores – was allowed to sell at a favourable price at launch. The RX Vega 64 version we had for sale was in a limited edition of this price and will unfortunately not be put up for sale again. When these were sold out, we had to remove this product from our pages”.
I'm sure you do..We have many undervolted RX 580s in a mining farm, they mine fine, but when you game on them most games crash.
another retailer that confirmed Gibbo's story
https://www.kitguru.net/components/...-gibson-clears-up-rx-vega64-pricing-disaster/
AMD's subsequent statement today confirms that MSRP (or SEP as AMD calls it) has NOT been increased by AMD for any of the SKUs:We are working with our partners to restock all SKUs of Radeon RX Vega 64 including the standalone cards
I don't see how anyone in good faith can continue to try and advance the claim that AMD would not be restocking stand alone card SKUs or the claim that AMD has increased the MSRP of any of the SKUs.“Our SEPs, and the price tag that we announced,” Youngblood says, “is our full intention of where we would suggest the product be priced. Not just for launch, but ongoing.
AMD isn't going to undervolt Raven Ridge.
The claims by AMD to restock the varying SKUs doesn't mean the claims of the rebates and limited versions of the card-only SKU didn't occur. They could have always intended to refill those SKUs, or they were called out by these retailers for their shenanigans. We won't probably ever know. On the first day of the sale what he describes did in fact occur on both Newegg and Amazon in the US. I was watching the cards and within an hour on Newegg the $499 SKUs completely disappeared and only the $599 SKUs were available, which were soon sold out and on auto-notify, but still visible. To this day the card-only SKU has yet to reappear anywhere on the sites.I don't see how anyone in good faith can continue to try and advance the claim that AMD would not be restocking stand alone card SKUs or the claim that AMD has increased the MSRP of any of the SKUs.
Also, the CPU division has done a much better job of setting appropriate voltages on Ryzen than the GPU side has done on...
The claims by AMD to restock the varying SKUs doesn't mean the claims of the rebates and limited versions of the card-only SKU didn't occur. They could have always intended to refill those SKUs, or they were called out by these retailers for their shenanigans. We won't probably ever know. On the first day of the sale what he describes did in fact occur on both Newegg and Amazon in the US. I was watching the cards and within an hour on Newegg the $499 SKUs completely disappeared and only the $599 SKUs were available, which were soon sold out and on auto-notify, but still visible. To this day the card-only SKU has yet to reappear anywhere on the sites.
Will they restock them as apparently promised? I'm sure they will. Do they intend to provide stock of those card-only SKUs in very small quantities again? Probably. They want (and need) to make money.
I feel this is the part people are hanging up on. AMD didn't directly refute these claims. And it seems this is where the reviewers are getting salty. If AMD had intended from the start to offer only a few units at the lower price through a rebate, reviewers are taking it as a personal thing that they weren't informed. I don't understand why, but to each their own. (It's not like it hurt their credibility, the MSRP's aren't being changed, just the luck at finding one at said MSRP.)
Just another AMD can't win circus. Even if openly saying "yes we had limited units with a rebate" they'll still get raked over the coals.
Also further explains why AMD insists that the typical consumer only pay attention to the 56.
I'm assuming you mean tinkering instead of tampering?They also had power limit increased by 50%, the process required a lot of tampering. And they pushed the clocks manually to achieve thesw results.
Exactly, really need people attempting to replicate this. Would be laughable if Vega 56 ends up decently between 1070 and 1080 along with 64 comfortably ahead of 1080 with some voltage tweaking. I have a slightly hard time seeing it though, it would be shear incompetence if true. I'm more inclined that all well binned chips are going to apple and pro markets first with gaming getting the left overs.The undervolting thing for sure is puzzling. But we need more tests to exclude a golden chip and also comparing to undervolted NV cards.
What I gather from their test is that Vega 64 is probably all the low binned, full functional dies and the good ones go to Radeon Pro cards. The 56 gets the broken chips and some of them might actually be very good (clock higher at lower voltage).
When asked by its AIB partners, AMD explained that the minimal differences between packages should have no effect on the functionality of previously-developed coolers. Even if this proves true, manufacturers still have to develop their own test cases to prepare for mass production as optimally as possible. And that again costs time, which nobody has. Although the first custom models have been announced for mid-September availability, some models could be delayed until the end of September or early October.
39 mins... any chance at a TL;DW?
Isn't this an illogical statement?I'm probably going to get some things wrong as its been hours since I watched it, but...
His review is late, so he actually gets to review Vega at the current prices.
Vega 56 + 64 benches against release date benches from Nvidia competition.
Explains the situation with Gibbo (who knows nothing about mining, though mentioned the 70m/hs thing was a rumour from wccftech) who manages the pricing at OCUK, so he's the knowledgable guy for that company when it comes to this.
Scan.co.uk has also confirmed the Vega AMD rebate (but chose not to use it)
Weighs up all the information we currently have, says the situation with the Vega 64 and pricing 'stinks'.
Talks about thermals, noise and power draw, in all power modes including power saver and OC.
Says Vega 56 has potential to be good for £399, Vega 64 is 2 years too late, too hot, too thirsty, and he can't recommend it over MSRP (499), nor does he think it will ever come down to MSRP again, and his personal expectation is that custom board 64's are going to be firmly in 1080ti pricing, making them a very bad sell.
Closes with Vega is 2 years too late. It feels and runs like a gpu from 2 years ago, Nvidia's low power capabilities just vastly outperform it.
But I highly recommend people watch it.. He comes across as incredibly unbiased, in my opinion.
Isn't this an illogical statement?
"...............Vega 64 is 2 years too late, too hot, too thirsty, and he can't recommend it over MSRP (499), nor does he think it will ever come down to MSRP again, and his personal expectation is that custom board 64's are going to be firmly in 1080ti pricing, making them a very bad sell................."
Vega 64 is a bad sell above $499 and yet it will never drop to that price again. I feel like such a fool in being unable to follow that reasoning. Is no one buying them? The unstated assumption is that AMD does not want to sell any Vega 64. Correct?