Right now amd product into that market is a powerhungry failed server cpu on stoneage process.I almost wonder if OEMs are delaying RR's release due to DRAM prices.. and AMD has no choice but to go with it.
@looncraz 's source had some interesting things to say here. I wonder what the effects will actually be.
Has anybody here tried to argue that, though?
It tells me that I'll wait to do any more UEFI updates until I need to think about buying Pinnacle Ridge. If I buy one.
Depends. Does BK have a dog? That can talk?
You are going with their claims even when nothing hints to Riven Ridge for this year. Not even a showcase from pre-sale units in a recent tech event like IFA.
HP ENVY x360 15-bq101na
Specifications
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64
Processor
AMD Ryzen™ 5 2500U Quad-Core (2 GHz base frequency, up to 3.6 GHz burst
frequency, 6 MB cache)
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c05652570.pdf
Edit : IIRC HP got the exclusivity for two months for previous newly launched AMD mobile APUs...
Nice find.
It says right on the first page up to 16GB of RAM, I imagine that would be two SODIMMs, and since it's one CCX it won't get quite the same boost from RAM frequency as the desktop models. Maybe not as gimped as imagined?Not just a nice find, but also a disappointing one. On the third page of the PDF, it lists the memory as being 1 X 8GB SODIMM at DDR4-2400. So, it's single channel with the resulting crippled/handicapped performance. And this is possibly exclusive for the first two months of availability? Way to tarnish the brand right off the bat...
The dog is on track and coming!
It says right on the first page up to 16GB of RAM, I imagine that would be two SODIMMs, and since it's one CCX it won't get quite the same boost from RAM frequency as the desktop models. Maybe not as gimped as imagined?
And this is possibly exclusive for the first two months of availability? .[/QUOTE
Oh gotcha gotcha gotcha, totally forgot. Excellent point.Bahahah oh dear.
I feel sorry for the dog though.
The RAM speed is for the iGPU, not the CPU. It needs DDR4-3200 minimum, or else all the advances in the world will do nothing to set the Raven Ridge iGPU apart from Bristol Ridge. CPU performance enhanced? Yes. Power usage reduced? Yes. Faster graphics? No, not really. Except to the extent that the old XV modules held back Carrizo.
Except Bristol has Fiji era memory bandwidth requirements. Raven has Vega based graphics, meaning the benefits of improved memory compression, larger caches, DSBR and primitive shaders (both save bandwidth), etc'.Bahahah oh dear.
I feel sorry for the dog though.
The RAM speed is for the iGPU, not the CPU. It needs DDR4-3200 minimum, or else all the advances in the world will do nothing to set the Raven Ridge iGPU apart from Bristol Ridge. CPU performance enhanced? Yes. Power usage reduced? Yes. Faster graphics? No, not really. Except to the extent that the old XV modules held back Carrizo.
Or maybe full fat 8c/16t? That would be interesting....
Yes only in your dreams, 8/16 Raven Ridge APU with 2000 VEGA GCN GPU cores.
If you need "Mobile 8/16 CPU", well Asus has a very good gaming tool for your needs.
65 watt cpu laptop...price, battery life, does it throttle, etc.?
It has to be AM4, right, or is there a mobile socket for Ryzen 7 I don't know about?
Its AM4, but the dGPU (RX580) is a mobile design.
Pretty amazing in that it has 154W worth of processosing in the form of a CPU (65W) and dGPU (est. 89W).
Yeah, I'm not sure how they are going to fit the battery in there:
I think if you look at Hawaii vs Fiji vs Vega 56 i think it looks pretty good. Carrizo is ~Hawaii level of GCN, vega 56 with only 26gb/s more bandwidth ( 384 vs 410) is significantly faster .I guess we'll find out how much better Raven Ridge is at DDR4-2400 than Carrizo in short order. Sadly.
I asked once before, is there any source for this slide without the huge watermark? I couldn't find it which makes me doubtful of its genuineness.
There is an update of that slide from before Threadripper launched:This is the official word on Raven Ridge from AMD.
Carrizo is actually Tonga based, which is Fiji like.I think if you look at Hawaii vs Fiji vs Vega 56 i think it looks pretty good. Carrizo is ~Hawaii level of GCN, vega 56 with only 26gb/s more bandwidth ( 384 vs 410) is significantly faster .
edit: actually finishing my thought...lol