If they release RR anytime soon, what will happen with these? EOL. They can't sell the for nothing and it would also be confusing for the consumer. It will for sure be end of Q1 2018 till RR desktop releases, probably later.
Don't see how to connect those dots, since they are all different dies...
Imagine you have $100-120 dollars for a CPU/GPU right now to start a build, but it need to have upgrade options. What you do?If they release RR anytime soon, what will happen with these? EOL. They can't sell the for nothing and it would also be confusing for the consumer. It will for sure be end of Q1 2018 till RR desktop releases, probably later.
Nicely spotted. Interestingly, they use 2xxx SKU. Zen+ or what?
It's either based on Zen+, or it's coming out very close to pinnacle ridge and AMD wants them both to start with 2, or it's just AMD not being very good at naming things.
Model numbers for Ryzen are actually well defined:No, most likely they just still suck with names. Makes no sense to go with 1xxx for CPUs and 2xxx for APUs . Totally incoherent naming scheme.
No, most likely they just still suck with names. Makes no sense to go with 1xxx for CPUs and 2xxx for APUs . Totally incoherent naming scheme.
It's either based on Zen+, or it's coming out very close to pinnacle ridge and AMD wants them both to start with 2, or it's just AMD not being very good at naming things.
Well, folks here can read my mind for sure. AMD will confuse customer if they release 2xxx SKU but with same Zen core. But, as stated by Raghu78, GF's refined 14+ process also will roll-out later this year. If mobile RR's launched at the same time with GF14+, we officially will get Zen+.Pinnacle Ridge and Raven Ridge are most likely to use the same 14nm+ process. Raven Ridge for mobile launches in late Q4 2017 and for desktops in Q1 2018. Pinnacle Ridge launches in Q1 2018.
At least AMD now have an option to get budget buyers into AM4 platform, with the prospect of buying some Ryzen CPU/APUs later.
Exactly. The point being LATER. Such a release costs money.You don't do a release if something superior will come out shortly.
I'm not criticizing this release. i kind of don't care about it. But again, for me this is a clear sign that RR is delayed.
I'm not criticizing this release. i kind of don't care about it. But again, for me this is a clear sign that RR is delayed.
Or that they want to clear the BR inventories since OEMs will jump on RR once it is released
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, hmm?
So how does this compare to anything? I'm not familiar with this benchmark, its settings, or what a "good" score would be.
Someone in the comments at Videocardz says the graphics score is "Just shy of an Iris Plus 640", but that "[the] CPU [is] well ahead". A lot of assumptions that this is going to be the chip found within $300-500 laptops, but I have my doubts that this is a bargain SKU.
If the retail name of that APU is 2500U, then that would place it in the middle of their product stack in both performance and power usage, so likely a $499-699 laptop:I agree. The bargain version of RR won't have 8 threads. There will be 2C-4T and/or 4C-4T parts on the lower end of the RR lineup. AMD doesn't want to be only a bargain seller. They wan't some of that premium cash.
Has there been any indication that they plan on releasing 2C4T CPUs? I know we've seen nothing on the desktop... If they follow the current Ryzen lineup, we'll see 4C4T at the bottom of the mobile range. Like a low speed 2200U.
How would they do a 2C4T? 1+1 dual CCX design? Single CCX?
Has there been any indication that they plan on releasing 2C4T CPUs? I know we've seen nothing on the desktop... If they follow the current Ryzen lineup, we'll see 4C4T at the bottom of the mobile range. Like a low speed 2200U.
How would they do a 2C4T? 1+1 dual CCX design? Single CCX?
Oh the 3 eyed Raven, I think he's still in the NorthI'm pretty sure we'll see the return of 3-core CPU's with Raven Ridge.
I'm pretty sure we'll see the return of 3-core CPU's with Raven Ridge.
Lots of RR SKUs will come this autumn.Makes sense, they've already demonstrated that they can disable 1 core per CCX with 6 core Ryzen.
Ryzen 7 2700U versus Intel i5-7260U with Iris 640
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...+i5-7260U+CPU+with+Iris(TM)+Plus+Graphics+640
And
Ryzen 7 2700U versus A12-9800E (desktop CPU with TDP of 35W)
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...D+A12-9800E+RADEON+R7,+12+COMPUTE+CORES+4C+8G
CL_DEVICE_MAX_CLOCK_FREQUENCY 300
We have seen earlier results from SiSoft with Ryzen mobile running 800mhz. Vega should be able to scale higher then earlier arch's, but might still be thermally limited. If we account for 800mhz and a linear line we would see it be ~60% better then the Iris Pro bench, without account for boost or higher base clock. Is it possible to see the RAM setup in this bench?Very interesting find from Arnold @ Beyond3D forums
If legit, these are the first Raven Ridge GPU benches! I'm pretty sure these are quite early engineering samples with beta drivers.
EDIT:
It looks like the GPU was actually only clocked @ 300 Mhz (from the OpenCL info here)
So if that's true, that's a very very promising result
I think there were Llano and Richmond tri cores. But as soon as APUs went BD you would have to disable whole modules which meant disabling 2 cores.Holy hell tri cores. They've been dead for nearly a decade. Last time we've seen a tri core was the Phenom II X3.
Really hoping Raven has a tri core for old time's sake