Dunno, seems like an AI caught in a gigantic bug with its date counter being reset, we ll see at next iteration, from the last post we can expect a discussion on anything, including a cooking dedicated CPU on AM4, fabbed using FDSOI of course...
Dunno, seems like an AI caught in a gigantic bug with its date counter being reset, we ll see at next iteration, from the last post we can expect a discussion on anything, including a cooking dedicated CPU on AM4, fabbed using FDSOI of course...I really wonder, is it from an alternate universe?
Nope, AMD is replacing Ryzen 7 2700E, Ryzen 5 2600E, Ryzen 5 3400GE, Ryzen 3 3200GE, etc. With a new series that should fall in new product line as the xx1x series. This is basically a transition from Performance-focused/High-cost cores(FS1) to Energy/Area-focused/Low-cost cores(AM1/FS1b) but for AM4.Dunno, seems like an AI caught in a gigantic bug with its date counter being reset, we ll see at next iteration, from the last post we can expect a discussion on anything, including a cooking dedicated CPU on AM4, fabbed using FDSOI of course...
On another note the AM4 Server Platform is required to have five years of supply, since Design-In(OEM-for-servers) availability.Falls into this:
2. FUTURE TAPEOUTSAnything enhanced and modified (waiving products that are out now(ex: GlobalFoundries 14LPP/12LP) for new products later(ex: GlobalFoundries 12FDX)):3.a.ii: A non-binding product roadmap by technology for process nodes larger than 7nm only that includes the tape-out dates...
products are to be exclusively taped out to and manufactured by FoundryCo.
Writing on the wall is this:
There is a squeeze that is about to happen on 14LPP/12LP/12LP+:
Aerospace/Automotive/Artificial Intelligence all three big A's have shifted towards demand for 12FDX. Xillinx(partners moving to 12FDX) is supposed to be included in 8th WSA, since the 7th/1st amended 7th only covers AMD products.
SOITEC most recent capacity talk for 12FDX-targeted wafers for future forecast Q4 2024 have increased from 50K wafers per month to 100K wafers per month. Going from just Dresden to Dresden and Malta. There a treasure trove of good faith sharing between AMD/GF. So, none of this should be new. GlobalFoundries knows about future tapeouts, AMD knows capacity is shifting towards 12FDX, etc.
2023+ numbers;
- 22FDX(+, also) NTO (Pre-AI) = $25M design cost + ~$26M verification cost
Actual reason it isn't 22FDX => Not enough density or performance
- 12LP+ NTO (Pre-AI) = $51M design cost + ~$36M verification cost
Actual reason it isn't 12LP+ => GlobalFoundries Digital Solutions group dropped FinFETs for new products. This in-turn killed 12LP+ Single-fin library, for extra density on top of 7.5T Dense Performance.
- 12FDX NTO (Post-AI::OpenROAD.ai and Synposys.ai) = Near-$25M design cost + Near-$25M verification cost
Couple reasons that have been leaked:
- Small track height w/ high mobility
- High Density SRAMs are faster, lower power, lower area than High Currrent SRAMs from 14LPP<->12LP+. Allowing for a full logic+memory shrink, whereas FF-line only touched logic.
- Low end wafer cost, with use of AI.
22FDX = Gen1.1 || 2018 "Mass Production"
22FDX+ = Gen2 (+25% perf) || +3 yrs = 2021 "Mass Production"
12FDX = Gen3 (+25% perf) || +3 yrs = 2024 "Mass Production"
22FDX example before slow-down in 2018:
*risk production will be commencing during 2H 2016
*while mass production of 22FDX chips will begin during 2H 2017.
GlobalFoundries will need to announce 12FDX risk this year for 12FDX mass production next year. Everything so far matches with the comment in 2H 2020: "Globalfoundries expects to be in production on 12FDX in 2023 or 2024."
AMD in the December 23, 2021 WSA added a third 2023 advance payment and the 2025 advance payment. Which is the likely range for the new tapeouts from GlobalFoundries provided by Future Tapeouts, etc.
Extra collection of data:
AMD's WSA has decreasing order size up till the third advancement payment and it increases per each advance payment up to 2025. So, the data means they are going to be buying something at GlobalFoundries in HVM to offset the decreasing sales of 14LPP/12LP devices. This Wafer Supply Agreement is pre-merger with Xillinx.
if you are going to dip that low its not even worth getting them new at retail, you might as well start digging around eBay. Recently got a 3200G for $40 and a 4350G Pro for $80Oddly, they still sell the 3400G as well (or I see it listed as available) for $129, which is an awful price for it as the cheaper 4600g beats it in almost every category.
Clocks are lower which suggests these are real garbage bins... but given the extra cache it should be fine for gaming.
I thought the 5600X3D was a limited thing? Only with Microcenter in the USA. What are these 5500 versions then?