Review AMD RX 5600XT Review Thread

[Hitman928]

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The AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT Review, Feat. Sapphire Pulse: A New Challenger For Mainstream Gaming

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AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT im Test

Mit der Radeon RX 5600 XT platziert AMD eine Grafikkarte auf Augenhöhe zur Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060. Die Effizienz ist sehr hoch.

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AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT Review: Look out, RTX 2060

1660 Ti-like pricing and better-than-2060 performance!

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From early reviews it seems like the 5600XT and Nvidia 2060 are basically tied both in performance and power consumption although GN's 12V rail power numbers and Anandtech's system power numbers don't agree, not sure why that is.

 

[country2]

Great! I don't have any issues which mean that nobody else does. Are you aware that on r/AMD their driver team is asking for feedback on black screens and there are nearly 400 replies on that thread?

Right! I have a 5700 (not a 5600) and have the black screen in game some times. Strange thing its WoW so is not really stressing the card that much. I'm not running the beta bios that was released couple days ago but the one before it. I have read where people are still getting the black screen on the newest one also. Mine has the dual bios and I flipped it to the other bios which from what I read is the energy saver mode (something like that) and that has no issues. Going to load in newest one and maybe tweak some stuff and see what happens.

 

[insertcarehere]

https://www.techpowerup.com/263228/...-rx-5600-xt-gpus-can-hit-14-gbps-memory-speed

This launch just gets better and better, last-minute clocking memory to 14gbps when the original spec was 12gbps. And now consumers get to deal with silicon lottery to get performance as reviewed and AIBs get to deal with RMAs from memory chips clocking at speeds they weren't made for. Good job AMD 👍

 

[Ranulf]

What affect did this had for the user ??? nothing

Hahahah... bwhahahaha. No.

Welcome to older pre uefi mobos vs new uefi cards that had bad or sub par compatibility and the power draw issue. Along with cards that are overvolted and could probably run cooler/quieter/less power draw when undervolted. Its been obvious for awhile that people with older systems and still decent cpus should avoid AMD cards post 2014 and some nvidia cards from pascal onwards. I have had pretty good luck the past year with a stable rx 570 4gb in a 2011 AMD AM3 system though.

Now I didn't have too many issues with in games early on with my rx 480s but loud fans, rando crashes (blue screens all pointing to gpu) led me to be stand-offish on new AMD video cards.

Anyway, wake me up in 2-3 months when everyone has figured out what model the best price/perf is for the msrp $279 and $300+ variants. Like the 1660ti last year vs the 2060, you might as well upgrade to a 5700 and get a real card that will handle 1080p with ease or 1440 midrange with some likely longevity. The 5700 killed the 2060 already, a 5600XT doesn't really need to kill it a second time. The 1660Super killed the 1660ti two months ago.

 

[guachi]

This launch is absurd.

I'll translate this post: Competition sucks!!!! I hate that Nvidia cut prices $50 and AMD boosted performance 5-10%!! I am just furious that AMD gave us something for nothing extra and Nvidia gave us the same for less!!!

 

[StrangerGuy]

$280+ for this is a joke when the 1660S and 5700 exists.

 

[railven]

Right! I have a 5700 (not a 5600) and have the black screen in game some times. Strange thing its WoW so is not really stressing the card that much. I'm not running the beta bios that was released couple days ago but the one before it. I have read where people are still getting the black screen on the newest one also. Mine has the dual bios and I flipped it to the other bios which from what I read is the energy saver mode (something like that) and that has no issues. Going to load in newest one and maybe tweak some stuff and see what happens.

I'm glad someone else said this first because that is where my friend is. The issue is so random, it's a risk to run any high level keys. If anyone here plays WoW, running high level keys and having your monitor randomly go off or worse freeze, will cost you the key. If it happens early in the run, it's annoying but losing a +19/20 key 2-3 pulls before the last boss because your tank's monitor cuts out is a 40+minute waste of time for 5 people. Have it happen 3-4 times and you're going to get benched.

With patch 8.3 out, and his guild starting their mythic schedule, I can only imagine how much patience is left in him. I've been offering to buy it like some kind of vulture haha.

 

[guachi]

$280+ for this is a joke when the 1660S and 5700 exists.

Really? HUB's review shows the 5600XT (@ $290) to be 24% faster than the 1660S at 1080 for 26% more money. That's a meaningful increase in performance for barely more increase in price. By comparison, the 2080S is about 25% faster than a 5700XT and it's 75% more money.

At 1080, the 5700 is 8% faster and 21% more money (at $350) or 10% more (for $320). If you can get a decent 5700 for $320, maybe get that but at $350 the 5600XT is enticing for 1080 gaming.

For 1440 gaming, I wouldn't get the 5600XT if I played newer games so I don't really care what the performance looks like. But for completeness, it's 26% faster than the 1660S for 26% more money. The 5700/5600XT comparison is basically the same.

 

[Shmee]

Too bad there is no 8GB version. Other than that it looks decent.

 

[railven]

https://www.techpowerup.com/263228/...-rx-5600-xt-gpus-can-hit-14-gbps-memory-speed

This launch just gets better and better, last-minute clocking memory to 14gbps when the original spec was 12gbps. And now consumers get to deal with silicon lottery to get performance as reviewed and AIBs get to deal with RMAs from memory chips clocking at speeds they weren't made for. Good job AMD 👍

It's almost as if retiring the ATI name unleashed some curse on them. I'm having a hard time recalling a non-botched launch. Hell, I think HD 5870 was the last real launch that didn't have issues. Actually, that's also the last ATI branded card...

 

[Mopetar]

Maybe, but then the performance numbers wouldn't add up as they had the 5600XT outperforming the 2060 in most cases.

The simplest explanation is that they just got a really good card and that it's just a natural outlier. The only other explanation is that they screwed up the power measurements for just the 5600 XT. Sure that's a possibility, but it would seem odd for them to screw them up enough to get those results, but not so much that it's obvious they're screwed up.

Just don't bet on getting a card that good though. It's pretty clear that the norm is closer to the 160W range that other reviewers were seeing.

 

[Hitman928]

https://www.techpowerup.com/263228/...-rx-5600-xt-gpus-can-hit-14-gbps-memory-speed

This launch just gets better and better, last-minute clocking memory to 14gbps when the original spec was 12gbps. And now consumers get to deal with silicon lottery to get performance as reviewed and AIBs get to deal with RMAs from memory chips clocking at speeds they weren't made for. Good job AMD 👍

Did you read the article to the end?

That's why MSI released an RX 5600 XT GAMING Z variant with 14 Gbps vBIOS already applied out of the box. ASUS also joined the party and launched the ASUS ROG STRIX TOP graphics card, which is the only 14 Gbps enabled cards in ASUS'es whole lineup. By launching GPU SKUs with 14 Gbps speeds out of the box, manufacturers can guarantee these speeds and not depend on silicon lottery which may cause them a few RMA troubles down the road.

So MSI and ASUS are releasing 14 Gbps cards as well as keeping the card models they can't guarantee to hit those speeds at 12 Gbps. Yes it sucks that you'll have to be a little careful when choosing a model, but the models with 14 Gbps memory will be a separate model name and memory speed should be clearly listed in the spec table when purchasing. Not saying this wasn't a botch, but (IMO) people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is. You essentially have a release of a 'reference' card with 12 Gbps speed and OC'd models with faster memory and core clocks, something that's pretty common for GPU launches.

 

[Zstream]

Did you read the article to the end?



So MSI and ASUS are releasing 14 Gbps cards as well as keeping the card models they can't guarantee to hit those speeds at 12 Gbps. Yes it sucks that you'll have to be a little careful when choosing a model, but the models with 14 Gbps memory will be a separate model name and memory speed should be clearly listed in the spec table when purchasing. Not saying this wasn't a botch, but (IMO) people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is. You essentially have a release of a 'reference' card with 12 Gbps speed and OC'd models with faster memory and core clocks, something that's pretty common for GPU launches.

Don’t worry, the usual suspects are out and about. It’s what they do.

 

[Hitman928]

The simplest explanation is that they just got a really good card and that it's just a natural outlier. The only other explanation is that they screwed up the power measurements for just the 5600 XT. Sure that's a possibility, but it would seem odd for them to screw them up enough to get those results, but not so much that it's obvious they're screwed up.

Just don't bet on getting a card that good though. It's pretty clear that the norm is closer to the 160W range that other reviewers were seeing.

Yeah, there's a few possibilities. Could be that for whatever reason the card was accidentally set to the 'silent' BIOS for some reason between benchmarks and power test but then that wouldn't explain the 5700 power. I think Glo might be right that the AMD cards are for GPU power and not board power but who knows.

 

[tamz_msc]

But I never took my eyes off the blue pill.

Game engine with frame cap?
The game is barely graphically better than this very old game: Clive Barker's Undying from 2001...

Don't have real points to argue with, do you?

 

[mohit9206]

I'll translate this post: Competition sucks!!!! I hate that Nvidia cut prices $50 and AMD boosted performance 5-10%!! I am just furious that AMD gave us something for nothing extra and Nvidia gave us the same for less!!!

I think a lot of people including me are a little miffed that AMD is not moving the price/performance curve ahead quite like they are doing with their CPU's.

 

[Glo.]

$280+ for this is a joke when the 1660S and 5700 exists.

230$ for 1660 Super and 350$ for 5700 are a joke, when RX 5600 XT exists for 280$.

 

[Mopetar]

I think a lot of people including me are a little miffed that AMD is not moving the price/performance curve ahead quite like they are doing with their CPU's.

A large part of why AMD could do that is because of how stagnant the market as a whole had become. How long was Intel sitting on 4C/4T as their mainstream consumer part?

NVidia has certainly raised prices, but it’s hard to argue that they haven’t also pushed performance forward. If the recent cards look somehow worse it’s mainly because of the transistor budget used to add RT that may be of no value to some consumers.

We’re only going to see better prices when AMD (nearly) reaches parity with NVidia. Navi is good, but a big part of that is node advantage. RDNA2 is going to need some significant improvements to be able to match whatever NVidia comes out with next when they’re also on 7nm.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

NVidia has certainly raised prices, but it’s hard to argue that they haven’t also pushed performance forward. If the recent cards look somehow worse it’s mainly because of the transistor budget used to add RT that may be of no value to some consumers.

DLSS too, god that looked like such crap when Hardware Unboxed tested it in Battlefield V.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

230$ for 1660 Super and 350$ for 5700 are a joke, when RX 5600 XT exists for 280$.

The 5600 XT looks like crap when MSI says it's down to silicon lottery whether you get memory that can run at 14Gbps so your card lives up to the review samples, and the only card they guarantee it in is the Gaming Z that costs $340. No thanks there. Sounds like a pure bait and switch from AMD when Hardware Unboxed this morning is reporting their MSI Gaming X 5600 XT that they reviewed as if it would run 14Gbps memory will only be rated for 12Gbps memory and won't get a 14Gbps BIOS update. If I'm chopping 15% off the reviewed performance when I get a $279 card, no way it looks as good as a 1660 Super.

 

[AtenRa]

The 5600 XT looks like crap when MSI says it's down to silicon lottery whether you get memory that can run at 14Gbps so your card lives up to the review samples, and the only card they guarantee it in is the Gaming Z that costs $340. No thanks there. Sounds like a pure bait and switch from AMD when Hardware Unboxed this morning is reporting their MSI Gaming X 5600 XT that they reviewed as if it would run 14Gbps memory will only be rated for 12Gbps memory and won't get a 14Gbps BIOS update. If I'm chopping 15% off the reviewed performance when I get a $279 card, no way it looks as good as a 1660 Super.

Just buy the Sapphire Pulse that they are using 14Gbps memory and the card only cost $290

Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT Pulse Review

Sapphire's RX 5600 XT Pulse comes at $289, which is only a small $10 premium over the AMD MSRP, yet it's faster than the GeForce RTX 2060. The card's cooler does a great job and delivers good temperatures paired with amazing noise levels, and it has fan-stop, too.

www.techpowerup.com

The GDDR6 memory chips are made by Micron and carry the model number D9WCW, which decodes to MT61K256M32JE-14:A. They are specified to run at 1750 MHz (14 Gbps GDDR6 effective).

 

[DAPUNISHER]

2060 is cheaper than 5600XT so 2060 is the card to get. But neither of them are actually any good as both are too expensive when you consider a PS5 will have more powerful graphics card+ cpu +ram+everything else for just $500.

If you used the X series as the example, I could mostly agree where gaming is concerned. But using the PS5 as the example makes zero sense. So, someone that has an old and/or slow PC, is supposed to start all over in a new gaming ecosystem? Instead of simply upgrading their PC?

Microsoft is now allowing you to play your games on console and PC. They are porting over most of the previous exclusives too. That provides much more value than Sony, as when you start buying games in that ecosystem, you can still play on PC, if you choose, and bring all the games you bought, with you. Buy Sony and you will have the experience I had when coming back to PC gaming when my son was old enough to switch. That experience, was being forced to double dip on many games I already bought, in order to enjoy them in their true glory at higher res and settings. Making that "just $500" a heck of lot worse value, since I would have to buy the non exclusive titles all over again. As opposed to simply logging in to my account and downloading the PC port.

I also dislike the mindset, that if you cannot play on PC with settings superior to the console peasants, that you are supposed to either spend much more on PC performance, or throw up your hands and quit the PC master race.

While all the over analyzing goes on about the 5600XT's relevance and stagnation of the GPU market. I see more choices for PC gamers. Some do not support Nv because of their shenanigans, and this gives them an alternative in one of the most important price ranges i.e. the sub $300 market. It also offers OEMs and SIs a combo of AMD CPU+GPU in a price bracket that usually finds AMD CPUs paired with the 1660 series. While keeping the power and cooling specs within the necessary parameters.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Just buy the Sapphire Pulse that they are using 14Gbps memory and the card only cost $290

Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT Pulse Review

Sapphire's RX 5600 XT Pulse comes at $289, which is only a small $10 premium over the AMD MSRP, yet it's faster than the GeForce RTX 2060. The card's cooler does a great job and delivers good temperatures paired with amazing noise levels, and it has fan-stop, too.

www.techpowerup.com

Is it officially listed as having 14 Gbps GDDR6? Because the newegg page lists it as 12Gbps.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

Just because the review sample has great memory doesn't mean they all will if it's not the official spec. No one wants to deal with RMA if they don't get the 14Gbps RAM.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I've had an RX 5700 (XFX reference blower model), and honestly, the drivers have only been getting better and better. There was a bit of a speed-bump with the Adrenaline 2020 drivers early versions, but version 20.1.1 is fairly solid now. At least, they seem to have gotten their Compute issues mostly straightened out. (Supposedly)

That said, I've had (temporary) "Space Invaders" while watching YT @ 4K UHD full-screen, WHILE mining in the background, and temps were probably fairly elevated, WHILE ALSO OVERCLOCKING THE VRAM a little bit.

So, maybe overclocking these is a bad idea. Other than that, and other than early driver versions, it's been pretty decent for me.

Thanks Larry, that is what I like to read, actual user feedback from someone experienced enough to trust, and no horse in the race. As you know, I had a bad experience with the launch reference 5700XT. It is good to know if I buy Navi again, that I will have a much better experience now.

 

[VirtualLarry]

While all the over analyzing goes on about the 5600XT's relevance and stagnation of the GPU market. I see more choices for PC gamers. Some do not support Nv because of their shenanigans, and this gives them an alternative in one of the most important price ranges i.e. the sub $300 market. It also offers OEMs and SIs a combo of AMD CPU+GPU in a price bracket that usually finds AMD CPUs paired with the 1660 series. While keeping the power and cooling specs within the necessary parameters.

Didn't AMD have "bundle packs", yeah, "GameCrate", or maybe that's Newegg's gaming sub-site, but it was like something-crate, that bundled a Ryzen CPU, an (MSI) RX 470 or 570 discrete GPU, and a (MSI?) motherboard (Bazooka and Tomahawk were popular), as as whole "Gaming Bundle Starter Kit".

Maybe AMD should do something like that again, with their Ryzen R5 3600(X) and RX 5600(XT) GPUs, and some partner X570 motherboard? I would think that would be a positive step in growing the PC Gaming Market. Maybe as a head-to-head offer, once the new consoles come out, or maybe just prior, in order to convince those on the "edge" to take advantage of that offer and (pre-emptively) get them to switch to a PC Gaming platform, before they get locked into the console-gaming treadmill. (Maybe with some current/new PC games as a pack-in redemption code too.)

I think that would be smart marketing, or at least, semi-smart, but on the other hand, AMD produces the chipsets for the consoles too, so I guess, either way, as long as the customer doesn't go Intel/NVidia PC Gaming, AMD wins out in the end (whether they go console or AMD CPU/GPU.)

 

[AtenRa]

Is it officially listed as having 14 Gbps GDDR6? Because the newegg page lists it as 12Gbps.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

Just because the review sample has great memory doesn't mean they all will if it's not the official spec. No one wants to deal with RMA if they don't get the 14Gbps RAM.

Its officially 14Gbps in their site,

Click in Specifications

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/pulse-radeon-rx-5600-xt-6g-gddr6

Memory Size/Bus
6GB/192 bit GDDR6
Memory Clock
14 Gbps Effective

edit: You either buy one of the cards now and update the bios manually or wait a few days/weeks for the new cards with the new bios to arrive.