AMD RYZEN 2000 Builders Thread

[B-Riz]

Posted in strictly technical also, but have a few different comments for here.


2700X, everything on auto in BIOS for the CPU, Asus Prime X470-Pro 4008, Wraith Prism, Arctic Silver 5, CPUID HWMonitor 1.35, CPU-Z 1.84, Win 10 Pro 1709 updated, high perf power plan.

Am doing a prime95 small FFT test now on all cores, package power is at ~131W and cores at ~85W, temp 67*C, vcore jumps around 1.243 - 1.286, fan at ~2900 RPM.

Bus and multiplier move around in CPU-Z; 95.xx - 99.xx for bus and 38.5 - 39.25 multiplier.

Core clock is 3892 to 3919, so, above the 3.7 advertised.

Core voltages are 1.188 to 1.200.


Memory is The Stilts CL14 3200 settings at 1.35V, but I need to do a stress memory test to make sure it is stable.

I am going to try setting max multiplier to 39.75, 40.25, 40.50, 40.75, etc. and see how stability goes tonight.

SOC is at 1.15 and RAM at 1.38.

This was running with cpu vcore offset -.05, but custom test with 30GB ram would crash.

I am testing with Auto vcore now, it seems to even out at ~1.25, so I am going to try offset +.04, as it starts at 1.2.

It seems the 2700X is plug n play (maybe tweak cpu voltage a bit), while, if you really want to OC and tweak, the 2700 may be better for you.

 

[B-Riz]

Yes, thanks again for making me WANT ANOTHER. As I already have 4 and am broke at the moment due to that.....

Gotta invest in the meme economy, can make bank!

Do you have a favorite case, SSD / NVME drive for your builds?

 

[B-Riz]

Dang, that is a nice board for the price, 12 phase too.

AsRock X470 Master SLI/AC

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470 Master SLI/index.us.asp

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157833

 

[dlerious]

Gotta invest in the meme economy, can make bank!

Do you have a favorite case, SSD / NVME drive for your builds?

My favorite case is the caselabs mercury S8 currently - just something about horizontal motherboard and aluminum that appeals to me. My SSD/NVME choices have been Samsung 960/970, Crucial MX300/MX500, and Adata SU800 with a few Sandisk Extreme. Only 2 have been less than 1TB (Sandisk). PSU is Seasonic or EVGA. UPS is Cyberpower.

 

[B-Riz]

At this point, I am not going to worry about overclocking the 2700X.

I think the 2700 is the better choice for wanting an all core OC beyond what the 2700X can do out of the box.

The default features are too good. I am getting 3.9 GHz, 70*C on blend test, 30GB memory dump.

Memory is set at 1.4, might go back to 1.38, but the SOC needs to be at ~1.15 for all threads to not crash.

 

[Markfw]

Gotta invest in the meme economy, can make bank!

Do you have a favorite case, SSD / NVME drive for your builds?

Yes, I use the Define s, as the rad for the 360 Entermax TR4 fits 2 different ways. I use the 960 EVO as the SSD (nvme)

 

[Space Tyrant]

I found a reason to re-enable SMT on my 2700X, fired up 16 threads at 100% and started to find the thermal limits the Wraith Prism -- and the tolerance threshold of my ears!

So, I ordered a Be Quiet Dark Rock 4. I got it installed today and temps dropped by about 6C. I was a little disappointed by the temp drop, but the noise drop was awesome. It's so quiet that I set my fan curves to be much more aggressive -- and traded some of the quiet for a little extra cooling.

It connects to the stock backplate and is dead easy to install on AM4, as tower coolers go. Joker runs through it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_sRqpk1wA&t=318s . It comes with only one fan though and the brackets won't work with any of my spare 120mm's -- and other brackets won't work either -- so I haven't bothered to do a push-pull test yet.

Edit: I've added a second fan. Be Quiet sells their fans for too much ($25 on newegg for 120mm!) so I used a Fractal Design fan that I already had. However, the BQ fans are a bit non-standard -- their mounting holes are on a centered, thin dogear, not a full fan-width dogear like most. I had to rebend the BQ mounting wire brackets to work, but it's snug and tight and dropped my temps by about 3c. I turned my fan speeds back down so it's *reasonably* quiet again at 100% load.

 

[lightmanek]

I'v just plugged my 2700X to Asus X370-Pro Prime with latest BIOS and tweaked it a bit. Out of box it does 3.9GHz Cinebench all core and up to 4.3GHz single thread with average of 4.2GHz at up to 1.475V (worst core). Best core boosts to 4.35GHz at 1.43V.

Now compared to my 1700, I needed 1.4V for 4GHz all core OC and with 2700X I need just 1.2V! Power consumption is around 60W lower in Cinebench R15 at that setting!

Cooled with Bequiet 280mm AiO.

More testing to be done soon

 

[B-Riz]

I'v just plugged my 2700X to Asus X370-Pro Prime with latest BIOS and tweaked it a bit. Out of box it does 3.9GHz Cinebench all core and up to 4.3GHz single thread with average of 4.2GHz at up to 1.475V (worst core). Best core boosts to 4.35GHz at 1.43V.

Now compared to my 1700, I needed 1.4V for 4GHz all core OC and with 2700X I need just 1.2V! Power consumption is around 60W lower in Cinebench R15 at that setting!

Cooled with Bequiet 280mm AiO.

More testing to be done soon

Nice! Are you using Ryzen Master? I just started messing with that now, trying to find 4.1 all core stable OC. Did you adjust LLC settings in the BIOS?

 

[lightmanek]

Nice! Are you using Ryzen Master? I just started messing with that now, trying to find 4.1 all core stable OC. Did you adjust LLC settings in the BIOS?

I use BIOS for memory timings and voltage offset and Ryzen Master for finding my stable settings. LLC is on Auto. My chip is stable at 4.2GHz 1.35V but I haven't tried going lower yet.

 

[B-Riz]

Nice! Are you using Ryzen Master? I just started messing with that now, trying to find 4.1 all core stable OC. Did you adjust LLC settings in the BIOS?

I found some info on Asus LLC. https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?95871-LLC-on-Strix-x370-f

I set mine at level 5 and running small fft stress test now, 4150 at 1.3875.

 

[B-Riz]

I found some info on Asus LLC. https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?95871-LLC-on-Strix-x370-f

I set mine at level 5 and running small fft stress test now, 4150 at 1.3875.

1.3875 was too high, trying 1.35 right now.

 

[B-Riz]

I use BIOS for memory timings and voltage offset and Ryzen Master for finding my stable settings. LLC is on Auto. My chip is stable at 4.2GHz 1.35V but I haven't tried going lower yet.

Hmm, I had LLC on auto, but drop was too high using Ryzen Master trying the all core OC.

 

[lightmanek]

Hmm, I had LLC on auto, but drop was too high using Ryzen Master trying the all core OC.

I have zero drop and even slight volts increase. At 4GHz with 1.2V set I get 1.198V idle and 1.21 to 1.218V full load.

 

[Markfw]

My Taichi should be shipping tomorrow, and its back in stock for everyone else ! In advance of the 5/15 date !

Soon I will join you all.

 

[lightmanek]

After few days playing with my R7 2700X on Asus X370-PRO Prime, I'm happy to report that BIOS and hardware support are very solid! Stock settings CPU will boost to 4.35GHz in games and I can OC my sample to 4.2GHz all cores @1.325V stable. No significant vDrop with LLC on auto either

Tested with BIOS 4008.

 

[B-Riz]

Not sure what happened, but I cannot get blend test in prime95 to be stable on all threads anymore. I might re-install Windows, was trying out Ryzen Master.

 

[Garcia1538]

Do some of you guys mine on Ryzen 2*00 ?

 

[moonbogg]

Build pics guys, come on. Use some of that tech laying around to take a picture of that tech you are building. I want to see cases and RBG and Ryzen boxes laying around all over the place. Pics of benchmark scores and everything. Lets go!

 

[Space Tyrant]

Do some of you guys mine on Ryzen 2*00 ?

I mine 24/7 on my 2700X. I'm currently running a miner at very low priority on all 16 threads. Unless I run something else with large requirements, I don't even notice it in normal use.

 

[Garcia1538]

I mine 24/7 on my 2700X. I'm currently running a miner at very low priority on all 16 threads. Unless I run something else with large requirements, I don't even notice it in normal use.

Can one for example use 10 threads in 100% and remaining 6 threads for normal computer applications ?

 

[Hitman928]

Can one for example use 10 threads in 100% and remaining 6 threads for normal computer applications ?

The cpu miners I've seen allow you to specify how many threads you want to use. With that said, the way Space Tyrant is doing it is probably the more effective way as it will use all available threads when you're not using the computer or using it very lightly but will essentially only use whatever is left over from other heavy compute activities when you're needing more CPU grunt for other things. If you're using a consistent number of threads for other things for large parts of your day, specifying threads will probably be more effective.

 

[Space Tyrant]

The cpu miners I've seen allow you to specify how many threads you want to use. With that said, the way Space Tyrant is doing it is probably the more effective way as it will use all available threads when you're not using the computer or using it very lightly but will essentially only use whatever is left over from other heavy compute activities when you're needing more CPU grunt for other things. If you're using a consistent number of threads for other things for large parts of your day, specifying threads will probably be more effective.

Exactly.

@Garcia1538: by running at low priority, no CPU cycles get wasted. My high priority foreground tasks get first call on cycles but all the rest goes to the miner.

This works the same way on any Linux/Unix/Unix-like system. However, there is a drawback on SMT-enabled systems; priority makes no distinction between virtual and real cores so sometimes your foreground tasks (or high priority batch jobs, for that matter) wind up getting high priority on a *virtual* core. (yes, I know they're *both* virtual cores running threads on the same physical core, but I didn't know how to say it. )

Even with that problem, It works very well on Ryzen -- and probably Intel as well, but I don't use my I3 skylake as my primary system.

 

[B-Riz]

Build pics guys, come on. Use some of that tech laying around to take a picture of that tech you are building. I want to see cases and RBG and Ryzen boxes laying around all over the place. Pics of benchmark scores and everything. Lets go!

Heh, I don't have any in a powered on full RGB glory, just a mess o cables in an old case.

 

[IEC]

Soon™