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VirtualLarry

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I have the budget hero Gammaxx 400 that will be tried with the 3600.

Very good finish on the bottom for a budget cooler. They go on sale all the time. I got mine for $17 from Newegg.
Hey, let us all know how that works. I've got a pair of those Gammaxx 400 coolers too. (Thinking about upgrading the secondary rig(s) here too with 3600 CPUs.)
 

VirtualLarry

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Right now, the 1700 and board are at 32*C in the BIOS screen, default clocks, 900 rpm fan speed. But I am in a cool-ish basement, open side case.

My 3600 idles in BIOS at 53-60C. I wonder if there is something wrong with my mounting.

Edit: That Ponchato video with the 4 AM4 coolers was helpful, thanks. The Gammaxx 400 did well.
 
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mopardude87

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I used to spend hours in there back in the day browsing components, and there was always a mob in the computer section. Last time I was in there it was totally dead. Was looking for a microatx case and their selection sucked so I walked out with nothing.

Yup same for me. I was such a frequent customer in 2006-2012 i would walk back there and have people fight almost over me to get that commission on a sale . I was greeted by name not even kidding. Last few visits there was workers and i was clearly looking at things and not a single soul even budged to ask me if i needed help. It was very sad.

Not sure how such a store that is competing with online only in this region which is southern California can not even bother to have Ryzen 3000. So if i walked into a Frys the only options are Intel seriously? How can you even take this store seriously? This was the same store btw that sold me a gtx280 almost a week earlier then it should have been on the shelves.
 

B-Riz

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Almost ready to update BIOS with the 1700, 2400 RAM, using some AS Ceramique 2 because my 3600 goes in to test after this.

Of course I forgot to hook up the power and reset

View attachment 8332

3600 paste and HSF paste





Had to take the floppy out



But, like all good Kingwin products, it has a loose connection inside and does not stay on

A moment of glory before it turned off, lol

 
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B-Riz

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My 3600 idles in BIOS at 53-60C. I wonder if there is something wrong with my mounting.

Edit: That Ponchato video with the 4 AM4 coolers was helpful, thanks. The Gammaxx 400 did well.

3600 / Gammaxx 400, Asus Prime X370-Pro, 5008 BIOS, 8GB 2400, BIOS idles was 41*C.

Fresh installing Win 10 1903 x64 right now.
 

scannall

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Yup same for me. I was such a frequent customer in 2006-2012 i would walk back there and have people fight almost over me to get that commission on a sale . I was greeted by name not even kidding. Last few visits there was workers and i was clearly looking at things and not a single soul even budged to ask me if i needed help. It was very sad.

Not sure how such a store that is competing with online only in this region which is southern California can not even bother to have Ryzen 3000. So if i walked into a Frys the only options are Intel seriously? How can you even take this store seriously? This was the same store btw that sold me a gtx280 almost a week earlier then it should have been on the shelves.
It used to be a great store. This trip in there the other day was eye opening. Had to hunt down a sales person, who clearly didn't even want to be there. Neither he nor the other sales person I hunted down after the first one was so bad could tell me anything. Or be bothered to take the time. If they would have had stock, I would have purchased a CPU and motherboard, as that store is 5 hours or so from my house, and I'm very rarely up in that part of the state. Instead I will wait for bios to shake out, then pick them up from Newegg.

Frys of old would have had them on launch day, with extra sales people to get more sold and out the door.
 

B-Riz

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3600, AS Ceramique 2, Gammaxx 400, Asus Prime X370-Pro, 5008 BIOS, 8GB 2400, BIOS idle was 41*C.

Latest prime95 smallfft stress test, all threads.

Using Ryzen Balanced power plan.

A picture or two is worth a thousand words; got the Asus Prime B350-Plus yesterday (brand new, never opened!) that will be tried next.



 
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B-Riz

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3600, AS Ceramique 2, Gammaxx 400, Asus Prime X370-Pro, 5008 BIOS, 8GB 2400.

Latest prime95 smallfft stress test, one thread, set to cpu 0 in Windows thread affinity.

Using Ryzen Balanced power plan.



 

Space Tyrant

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Where's all the core and mem OCs, chaps?

Chop chop.
The BIOS's in both of my test MB's are currently in a horrible state. No way will I start pstate OCing until I can see the voltages derived from the raw numbers entered. The MB's are Asus C6H and Asrock B450M Pro4, BTW.
Further, I don't trust these still-in-development, rushed BIOS's for anything else either. So far, I've only played with memory timings.
 

IEC

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Good news for those building on a budget with 3600 and wanting better memory performance. Apparently cheap Crucial (Micron E-die) memory is easily hitting 3600+ on Ryzen 3000 series IMCs with a 1 button OC. This basically gets you within 1ns of the "sweet spot" latency touted by AMD... and at $68 or less for 16GB (2x8GB) of DDR4-3000 CL15/DDR4-3200 CL16 this type of memory is a great value.

Original reddit thread

Example of how cheap this RAM is ($30/8GB...):
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-8gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164118
 
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Good news for those building on a budget with 3600 and wanting better memory performance. Apparently cheap Crucial (Micron E-die) memory is easily hitting 3600+ on Ryzen 3000 series IMCs with a 1 button OC. This basically gets you within 1ns of the "sweet spot" latency touted by AMD... and at $68 or less for 16GB (2x8GB) of DDR4-3000 CL15/DDR4-3200 CL16 this type of memory is a great value.

Original reddit thread

Example of how cheap this RAM is ($30/8GB...):
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-8gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164118

Prepare for a price increase
Memory vendors are evil creatures
 
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Shivansps

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My 3600 idles in BIOS at 53-60C. I wonder if there is something wrong with my mounting.

Edit: That Ponchato video with the 4 AM4 coolers was helpful, thanks. The Gammaxx 400 did well.

Larry again, check voltages with hwinfo. Take a screenshoot of the sensors panel while running something like Cinebench.
 

IEC

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Shivansps

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Is Ryzen Master working right for the 3000 series? i had to update Ryzen Master for my 3200G and the only way to make it work is to unistall it, reboot, install it, and it will work until the next reboot, after that "driver is not installed". So is kinda broken for me, so bad because i really wanted to test the OC limits on IGP, i got to 1700mhz too easily.
 

b-mac

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Early adopters. Is it fair to say that these Zen 2 CPU's require water cooling to achieve their rated max boost speeds? I have been watching the userbenchmark scores roll in and it seems that few of the Zen 2 chips are hitting 4.4ghz eg. 3700x. Usually within 100-200mhz

Thoughts and opinions? I also realize new bios will be coming and it will probably take a month or two for AMD to iron out the release.

My 3600 will easily boost to 4200 MHz in games with a Noctua u9s on a Asus b450i with the 2406 bios. Unfortunately the system is very finicky and performance craps out I had to drop my 2600x back in.
 
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