I’m going to guess the difference in performance between those two kits would be unnoticeable, synthetic test yes but real world no difference other than some trivial thing like 2%
I’m going to guess the difference in performance between those two kits would be unnoticeable, synthetic test yes but real world no difference other than some trivial thing like 2%Go for it on the panel. I've never regretted getting my Acer Predator X27 IPS since the day I bought it, it always catches ooh's and aaaah's at LAN's when I take it with me due to how sharp the colors look for a 144Hz.
I need some advice from the forum, in the weeks leading up this launch I picked up a 16 GB kit of Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 CL 16 for 79.99 on a ridiculous sale ( I couldn't resist at that price) but seeing the sweet spot at 3600 CL 16 makes me consider selling this kit at face and getting the Vengeance RGB 3600 CL 16 kit but... it's over double what I paid for this kit. Basically someone talk me off the ledge of blowing an extra $130 on RAM that may offer a marginal improvement over what I already bought.
Hmm, not totally sure about that mobo since I don't know that chipset. I bought a high end gigabyte in 2012 but it wasn't a combo deal, from them. But I remember paying under market value for the board. It still works today or else I wouldn't be here.
I'm thinking that "low end" X570 gives you the features of the new chip set, but not an overbuilt board for OC, so, if you *do not* want to OC, the $160 - $200 boards are going to be a good long term investment.
Sorry, "C6H" is the X370 Crosshair VI Hero board.
I would recommend a USB Sound Blaster as something affordable but offers good options. X-Fi 5.1 or X-Fi 5.1 Pro, I have both, grabbed them refurb / open box and have never had any issues. Work fine with Win 10.
I'm thinking that "low end" X570 gives you the features of the new chip set, but not an overbuilt board for OC, so, if you *do not* want to OC, the $160 - $200 boards are going to be a good long term investment.
The $250+ plus boards are for the new "unlocked" overclocking ability of Zen2, see the 3000 series thread about that.
Looks like those boards are going to be 4-layer (possibly bad for RAM OC) but they'll have enough VRM for chips like the 3600/3600X to OC through most of their range. More cores = more problems.
FYI elmor has come out and said that the C6H should be pretty good for at least the 3900x if not the 3950x:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-...vi-overclocking-thread-4079.html#post27999140
I've seen some rumblings that Asus support for older boards has fallen off a cliff, which surprised me. I thought their long-term board support was better than ASRock's. Buyer beware, I guess?
So what RAM are people thinking of picking up? That slide from AMD mentioned 3600 CL16 as the best price/performance spot, but it looked like 3200 CL14 was the same.
So what RAM are people thinking of picking up? That slide from AMD mentioned 3600 CL16 as the best price/performance spot, but it looked like 3200 CL14 was the same.
I have several sets of 3600 cl15. They will sometmes run@3466@cl14I'd like to try some 3600 tuned to CL14, not sure if possible.
Even MSI CEO Chiang's statement couldn't prepare us for the prices we're seeing for the ASUS motherboard lineup. The cheapest AMD X570 motherboard from ASUS is the Prime X570-P, which is priced at USD $159.99. Its slightly bolstered twin, the TUF Gaming X570-Plus will go for $169.99. A variant of this exact board with integrated Wi-Fi 6 will be priced at $184.99.
Yeah, the sheer number of SKUs across vendors and at all these various strata certainly paint a flattering picture of what Ryzen 3XXX-series is going to deliver for us.That said, the motherboard manufacturers must be sold on the CPU's performance or they would not being making so many top-of-the-line models.
If the B550 & A520 chipsets only support PCIe 3, then why do they exist? What other possible features would make them more desirable that the 4xx series chipsets?Yeah, the sheer number of SKUs across vendors and at all these various strata certainly paint a flattering picture of what Ryzen 3XXX-series is going to deliver for us.
I also think the pricing suggests even more SKUs coming down the line in the 550 variants perhaps with their own strata of features.
Probably better power & memory compatibilityIf the B550 & A520 chipsets only support PCIe 3, then why do they exist? What other possible features would make them more desirable that the 4xx series chipsets?
I do care about the memory support. That's a factor driving me to the X570 family in the first place. My modest desires are for 3200 support without OC. If we get any leaks about the B550 series supporting that, then I might hem and haw for a bit longer before picking a board.Probably better power & memory compatibility
Plus improved smart cache and other BS that nobody cares about
I do care about the memory support. That's a factor driving me to the X570 family in the first place. My modest desires are for 3200 support without OC. If we get any leaks about the B550 series supporting that, then I might hem and haw for a bit longer before picking a board.
Same here, I like the idea of pcie 4 but I don’t like the fan and I don’t like the extra cost for something that just makes me feel good having. Realistically there will be no perceivable difference for my type of usage.
I mainly want a 570 board for the improved memory support but I’d be happy if those memory improvements apply to the 470 or 450 boards.
Frankly, all this hate on PCIE 4 is strange; did everyone complain when ISA was going away and PCI was coming in? Or PCI disappearing and AGP coming in? Or AGP disappearing and PCIE coming in?
Like, so many people here are angry about technological progress and the cost associated with it now.
A mid to high end PC has never ever ever been cheap; let's all go back and re-calculate the 2019 dollars costs of 1980's Apple computers / 8088 computers.
So you don't think margins are increasing on these new boards? Well, good for you.I imagine there is a physical layout component / additional design considerations that had to be implemented to run the high frequency memory that cannot be back ported to an already made board.
A good X570 board costs what it costs for a reason; human hours spent developing and testing still have to be paid for.
I *could* see better memory support with Zen2 on lower boards, but that would be because the chip has a new memory controller on it.
Frankly, all this hate on PCIE 4 is strange; did everyone complain when ISA was going away and PCI was coming in? Or PCI disappearing and AGP coming in? Or AGP disappearing and PCIE coming in?
Like, so many people here are angry about technological progress and the cost associated with it now.
A mid to high end PC has never ever ever been cheap; let's all go back and re-calculate the 2019 dollars costs of 1980's Apple computers / 8088 computers.