GhostPirateLeChuck
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Thanks. To be clear, the RAM is running @ 3200 with those timings or did it drop down to 3000?
Nope, it's running at 3200 16-18-18-36.
Thanks. To be clear, the RAM is running @ 3200 with those timings or did it drop down to 3000?
I've heard the gigabyte boards have terrible XMP profiles which is concerning since I ordered one. Anyone able to confirm? Guess a bios update would resolve it but that would be frustrating.
After battling with my b450 Tomahawk bios I have a 3700x system up and running.
My temps are low and I know Ryzen is supposed to boost voltages at times but the immature bios and drivers are making me a bit concerned....I am half thinking of turning off precision boost for a few weeks until everything settles down and a refined bios is released.
How is everyone else going with their voltages at the moment? Anyone decided to turn boost off for the moment?
Yes, around ~450W from the wall.Have you tried hooking your R5 3600 rig up to an external power monitor (Kill-a-Watt) to see what is your total system power usage?
@Fanatical Meat
@StinkyPinky
@IndyColtsFan
Just a quick update. all the parts arrived late yesterday, so the new build is assembled, and Win10 Pro is installed. That aorus master mobo showed up with the F3 BIOS installed, and since GB put out the F5G BIOS (AGESA 1.0.0.3AB) the other day, I updated to it first thing.
So far, so good. The BIOS and CPU-Z are listing that 3200CL16 4x16GB Vengeance LPX kit at the 16-18-18-38 timings (All I had to do, was just enable the XMP profile for it). I won't have a chance to really benchmark the new desktop until this weekend, after I've already
migrated all my work stuff over to it over the next 2 days. Anything in particular you want me to use? I've got AIDA64 (haven't installed it on the new box yet), and I could run the CPU bench in CPU-Z and I guess Cinebench (never used that before).
Once I get WS Pro 15.1 and my VMs moved over, I'll find out whether there's an issue on that front in regards to Linux VMs. :/
@DarthKyrie
I found those low profile Ballistix kits. The only one I could find was listed on that AVAdirect site folks here link to, and it's DDR3.
So I wanted to follow up with you again. I may be going to Microcenter this weekend, and they have the Aorus Master in stock. Are you liking the board and BIOS? My other in-stock X570 options (excluding the $700 boards and the low end boards) are:
Asus CHVIII Hero (Wi-fi)
Asus Prime Pro
Asus Rog Strix
Asus Rog Strix E
Asus Pro Workstation
Gigabyte Aorus Pro
Gigabyte Aorus Elite
Gigabyte Aorus Ultra
Asrock Steel Legend
Asrock Taichi
For me, it comes down to the CHVIII, Taichi X570, and the Gigabyte Aorus Master.
I'm thinking I'll let the dust settle a bit with my X370 Taichi BIOS situation and then maybe get a 3700x for that system. I think I've decided to go with X570 for my 3900x build. This is the RAM you're using, correct?
I used to heat my office(s) with various 500 watt space heaters back in the day. I'm not surprised that you can't keep it cool in your cubby, but I do wonder how you keep the room cool. Please share.Yes, around ~450W from the wall.
That is totally bonkers. I do not think my 3700X w/ Wraith Prism was that bad. Temps largely stayed below 80C with that thing. Since then I've found a Scythe Mugen in the storage and promptly installed it, which lowered the temp by 10C or so. When the 3600 hits 95C what happens?
I have 2 kits from different vendors using different ICs (Samsung and Hynix, respectively), and XMP work fine on my Aorus Elite board. Tweaking from there is a different story altogether, but if you simply want to enable XMP and forget the board should handle it just fine.
I think XMP only sets the major timings. Then BIOS follows through with the rest. I could be wrong.
Anyway, I got my 3600 installed on my Prime X370-Pro and while it had a bit of a fit the first time I tried to boot, setting PBO to "auto" fixed that and I'm able to boot with my memory at the full rated speed and timings @B-Riz. Going to try some stress testing now.
After battling with my b450 Tomahawk bios I have a 3700x system up and running.
My temps are low and I know Ryzen is supposed to boost voltages at times but the immature bios and drivers are making me a bit concerned....I am half thinking of turning off precision boost for a few weeks until everything settles down and a refined bios is released.
How is everyone else going with their voltages at the moment? Anyone decided to turn boost off for the moment?
Mine is the 1st gen I believe. It used to be called "Scythe Infinity." I used it with my original E6600 build.What revision of Mugen did you use?
I have two Mugen 2 Rev B. from the 1366 days, one is in the wife's i7 920 D0 computer, that is getting the 3600 upgrade.
So I wanted to follow up with you again. I may be going to Microcenter this weekend, and they have the Aorus Master in stock. Are you liking the board and BIOS? My other in-stock X570 options (excluding the $700 boards and the low end boards) are:
Asus CHVIII Hero (Wi-fi)
Asus Prime Pro
Asus Rog Strix
Asus Rog Strix E
Asus Pro Workstation
Gigabyte Aorus Pro
Gigabyte Aorus Elite
Gigabyte Aorus Ultra
Asrock Steel Legend
Asrock Taichi
For me, it comes down to the CHVIII, Taichi X570, and the Gigabyte Aorus Master. Recommendations? I was planning on using the included cooler, though I do have a spare 240 AIO I got on sale awhile back. Obviously a 360 would be better but I don't think I can justify the cost. I don't think I'll be doing any manual overclocking but on the other hand, the room it will be in can get warm (upper 70s) so at some point I may need to go that route.
I'm thinking I'll let the dust settle a bit with my X370 Taichi BIOS situation and then maybe get a 3700x for that system. I think I've decided to go with X570 for my 3900x build. This is the RAM you're using, correct?
This might be a really stupid thing to say and I'm definitely not an expert, but could the temperature problems that @VirtualLarry and others are experiencing (since I've seen this reported else where as well) be a problem with Precision Boost being borked?
What I mean is, PB is supposed to keep boosting as long as you have thermal headroom, right?
But what if the PB algorithm is getting bad data and it doesn't realize the temperature is too high? Then maybe it just...keeps boosting? And the temperature keeps going up?
Again maybe I'm totally off-base, but that's the first thing that comes to mind when I see these reports about crazy temps on 3600s.
For my part, PB (just at stock, no PBO) seems to be doing wonders - I'm seeing sporadic all-core boosts to 4195 Mhz. I thought that was supposed to be the single-core boost limit.
Mine is the 1st gen I believe. It used to be called "Scythe Infinity." I used it with my original E6600 build.
If Windows 10 thinks you are not using the PS/2 port, it just disables it (for no logical reason).My PS2 keyboard works under bios, but when I get to windows, it does not work !
Any ideas ?
That crossed my mind as well.This is kind of a long shot, but I wonder if the IHS isn't flat for your particular CPU. If the heatsink doesn't seem to be very warm, that would indicate a poor connection somewhere in the stack or your monitoring software isn't reporting temps accurately. Or your hand isn't calibrated correctly.
I upped my board to the Aorus Master from the MSI X570 Pro Carbon for the 3900X, but, I have not set it up yet.
Someone else in the thread is using the Aorus Master though.
I would get the Prime Pro as the budget-ish option, Pro Workstation as the alternative to Aorus Master.
Steel Legend as the most budget option or the lower end Aorus?
While this is the most high-end board I have ever gotten, I think the 3900X and 3950X do need it for max perf.
Yes, something is very amiss somewhere, but, my B350 testing is going pretty well so far, have not seen the issues a lot of other people are having.
That crossed my mind as well.
The first heatsink that I had on there, a 65W R3 1200 stock heatsink, and then the R5 1600 stock heatsink, I had a bit of trouble getting it screwed down to the back-plate. Often, just one screw wouldn't "catch", and I would have the other three screws torqued at least half-way down, and then I would try to force that screw down to get it to catch, well, it wasn't pretty.
I wonder if I warped the heat-spreader, due to un-even application of the stock screw-on heatsink? I guess that's a possibility?
Edit: Shades of old-school, clamping down heatsinks onto heatspreader-less Athlon XP dies, and being careful not to chip the die.