AMD Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G APUs performance unveiled

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DAPUNISHER

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Nothing wrong with the used market if price/performance is what you are after, especially with current DDR4 prices.

The cost of entry for a 2200G system, including 8GB DDR4-3200 and entry level B350 motherboard, is approximately $270. Add a decent 500W PSU + case and 120GB SSD and you're looking at an approximate $400 total system cost.

For about the same money you can generally get a i7 2600 or 3770 based Dell/HP SFF PCs (the market seems to be flooded with these, at least in Australia) plus a current gen GTX 1050 or RX 560, for slightly better CPU performance but far superior graphical performance.

Of course, new vs used is an apples to oranges comparison, but I personally am not against buying used hardware as I've never had a CPU or motherboard die on me, though I am not dismissing the possibility of that happening.
Exactly, and a topic for another thread, not this one.
 

Mockingbird

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Did anyone find it hilarious that Shivansps went on a rant yesterday about AMD not having posted the drivers for Raven Ridge (for desktop) even though the processors weren't even released yet?

WTH is wrong with AMD? they plan to do a worldwide launch of RR tomorrow and they still havent put up a working RR driver?

For a product that releases in HOURS. That is like saying "whats the point of offering firmware updates to support it", they did release it. They know by now there are people with the APU and this makes them look bad. Press should have a working driver for days now, whats the point of hidding the driver? Specially because the OEMs are offering a driver that supports it and its completely broken.

The good news is that 17.40 is just completely broken for RR IGP, and so a new driver could provide a nice boost in the scores we were seeing for the last few days.

This should be a subject we should all agree on, unless you feel some need to defend every AMD move even when they make no sence at all.

No one said it should be final fully optimised drivers, but at this point there are people, like the one on the video with the APU and they start to give information based on a broken driver, while they sit on a driver that actually works waiting for the clock to run out. Whats the point? there is none.

What it puzzles me is that they had to give the go ahead for OEMs to release 17.40 driver dated from january for RR desktop, petty much like they do for ANY dgpu, they had to knew that was completely broken. Even more reason to release a driver sooner.

Well, here it is:

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-ar...-with-Radeon-Vega-Graphics-Release-Notes.aspx
 

Peter Watts

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Maybe switch to linux for these APU's?

Overall linux uses less memory for the system (from what i know).

16GB of DDR4 is just too expensive from a budget perspective, kind of dissapointing to be honest (but not AMD's fault).
 
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LTC8K6

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I still like the R5-1400 and DGPU combo for me, but I do build systems for others. I built an A10-7850K system for an employee a while ago, and he needs an upgrade, so the 2200G/2400G would be an ideal replacement.
 

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Gideon

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I still like the R5-1400 and DGPU combo for me, but I do build systems for others. I built an A10-7850K system for an employee a while ago, and he needs an upgrade, so the 2200G/2400G would be an ideal replacement.
I see no reason to prefer a R-1400 to a R-2400G, considering the APU is clocked higher and is also decent with a separate GPU, at least according to and techpowerup and Linus reviews. it's as good or a bit better.

Overall I still feel like 2200G is the best bang-for the buck. For instance one can buy it, overlock to 2400G level, and stars saving up for a discreet GPU (maybe a GTX 2050 half a year later), instead of wasting all the money at once. And a year later go fora Ryzen 3600X/3700X (Zen2) still on the same Mobo.
 

LTC8K6

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I see no reason to prefer a R-1400 to a R-2400G, considering the APU is clocked higher and is also decent with a separate GPU, at least according to and techpowerup and Linus reviews. it's as good or a bit better.

Overall I still feel like 2200G is the best bang-for the buck. For instance one can buy it, overlock to 2400G level, and stars saving up for a discreet GPU (maybe a GTX 2050 half a year later), instead of wasting all the money at once. And a year later go fora Ryzen 3600X/3700X (Zen2) still on the same Mobo.
Well, the employee won't be doing any overclocking, so that's not part of the equation. Probably go with the 2400G for him.

As for me, I just prefer a dedicated GPU and I already figured the 1050/RX560 would be what was needed to handily defeat the 2400G graphics.
 

Kanadian

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Just ordered the 2200g up here in the great white north. I thought about the 2400g but the premium we pay in Canada was close to $100 more than the 2200g and I couldn't justify it. As it is, the 2200g is going for $129, but that's about right when you consider the difference between the U.S. dollar. Another factor is that I have 2667mhz ram and from what I've read you really need fast ram to make these APU's sing. Anyway, I'm sure it will be a nice improvement over my current A12-9800e.
I hope everyone who's bought one enjoys it!
 
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KompuKare

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I think i will wait to see what intel brings to the table, the whole DDR4 shite is a turn off with these...
What could Intel possibly bring to this table?
Even if they were willing to sell for less margin, they are very unlikely to re-introduce a socketed Iris Pro part like the Broadwell i5-5675C or i7-5775C, and anything else they could offer is going to have a far slower iGPU.
 

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Did anyone find it hilarious that Shivansps went on a rant yesterday about AMD not having posted the drivers for Raven Ridge (for desktop) even though the processors weren't even released yet?
Well, here it is:

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-ar...-with-Radeon-Vega-Graphics-Release-Notes.aspx

I think we have diferent definitions for "rant". I said AMD should have released the drivers sooner because what the OEM are providing is making them look bad. Not that they would not launch the drivers today.

That is not a rant, but wharever.
 
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alexruiz

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You need dual channel with the APU, so you need two sticks of ram, 4x2 or 8x2.
The thinking is that if you have 2gb for the GPU, 8gb leaves you just 6gb of ram for the system.
Single channel ram kills the gpu in the APU.

With a DGPU you don't need the dual channel ram.

No, you don't need 2GB system RAM allocated to the GPU.
512MB will do fine, techpowerup numbers back it up.
You DO need the dual channel, but allocating only 512MB, even allocating 1GB at most for GPU still leaves 7GB / 7.5GB for windows to use.

7.5GB system RAM + iGP will be much more responsive in windows than 4GB + dGPU, you know that.
Even 7GB + iGP is in a different category than 4GB.
 

IRobot23

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Why would you want to convince me? And my "system" doesn't have an Intel chip in it.
You didn't address the graphics performance of the APUs with single channel ram, anyway.

Same goes for CPU. Go buy AM1@5350@Single channel and GT1030.
 

Shivansps

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Well after reading some reviews, the CPU part is performing better than expected for its 4MB L3, thats a good thing.

IGP performance is just not good enoght, the 2400G has a rather large IGP that is barely trading blows with the GT1030 that is the slower dgpu on the market, if someone wants to OC you are going to need an AB350 mb and you could OC the 1030 as well. The 2200G should have been the one trading blows with the GT1030, the 2400G should had beaten it. This is bad compared to OLD APUs that literally killed cheap dGPUs.
So after all those personal attacks by the fanboys looks like i was right to expect that based off AMD slides.

The 2200G is the APU to get for entry gaming, i dont think it worth paying a penny for anything more, either with fast dual channel ram or slower single channel+GTX1050.
The only reason i see for going 2400G is SMT, the IGP perform jump is just too small, so i was right about this as well. Its up to the users to decide if that is worth the 70% price increase.
 
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