| Cores Threads | Base Freq | Turbo Freq | L3 Cache | TDP | MSRP | |
| Ryzen 9 5950X | 16c/32t | 3400 | 4900 | 64 MB | 105 W | $799 |
| Ryzen 9 5900X | 12c/24t | 3700 | 4800 | 64 MB | 105 W | $549 |
| Ryzen 7 5800X | 8c/16t | 3800 | 4700 | 32 MB | 105 W | $449 |
| Ryzen 5 5600X | 6c/12t | 3700 | 4600 | 32 MB | 65 W | $299 |
That would be problematic too don't you think? We are back to a confusing designation for what is a cut down CPU v. full cache and higher PCIe standards. The G tells you what series it is, just like KF with Intel. AMD already uses the F for non IGP models now, GF makes the most sense to avoid any confusion over CPU specs IMO.Then just use the F - 5700F.
With Intel, anything with an F at the end is sans graphics. With AMD, all the Ryzen CPUs before the 7000 series were sans graphics unless in has the G. So, yes, considering the prior labeling, perhaps a little confusing. But, it would make the prospective buyer delve a little deeper since it would be unfamiliar. Or maybe just 5700nonX,That would be problematic too don't you think? We are back to a confusing designation for what is a cut down CPU v. full cache and higher PCIe standards. The G tells you what series it is, just like KF with Intel. AMD already uses the F for non IGP models now, GF makes the most sense to avoid any confusion over CPU specs IMO.
But then people will think that only 5700F doesn't have graphics 🫠Then just use the F - 5700F.
This and other reasons mentioned are probably why AMD just went with 5700. Really, any naming convention change, at this point in time, for any AM4 socket processors is going to introduce confusion. Unless the prospective buyer know how to google something, of course.But then people will think that only 5700F doesn't have graphics 🫠
And the 5500 does exist. It is a good counterpoint to Steve's saltiness. I'm ready to flip flop and go back to my original stance that it's fine. 😁 Needs a price cut though. The 5700G was just under $160, paying more and getting less is uncool.This and other reasons mentioned are probably why AMD just went with 5700. Really, any naming convention change, at this point in time, for any AM4 socket processors is going to introduce confusion. Unless the prospective buyer know how to google something, of course.
This sounds like the stance I took with my regular hooker last night.... paying more and getting less is uncool.
That information will sell ones of retail 5700s. Either it's a time is money workflow in which case the 5700 makes no sense. Or the apps are casual use and the 5700 makes no sense. They will sell more off of the gaslighting name than its productivity performance. Retail is predominantly gamers as evidenced by how long the 7800X3D has been number one on Amazon and Newegg U.S., polls I've seen also reflect it in how many users have a 3D CPU. 5700 isn't going to sell for beans without a substantial price cut IMO.5700G being 18% faster in apps than a 5600X and 1% faster than a 5700X so should the 5700.
AMD Ryzen 8700G & 8600G im Test: Gaming, Multimedia, Apps: App-Benchmarks, Multimedia und Stromverbrauch
Ryzen 7 8700G & 5 8600G (OC) im Test: App-Benchmarks, Multimedia und Stromverbrauch / Testmethodik für Anwendungenwww.computerbase.de
Thank you for posting those benchmarks! They're quite thorough, and some of the results are surprising. Never imagined the "G" beats the "X", even by small margins...5700G being 18% faster in apps than a 5600X and 1% faster than a 5700X so should the 5700.
AMD Ryzen 8700G & 8600G im Test: Gaming, Multimedia, Apps: App-Benchmarks, Multimedia und Stromverbrauch
Ryzen 7 8700G & 5 8600G (OC) im Test: App-Benchmarks, Multimedia und Stromverbrauch / Testmethodik für Anwendungenwww.computerbase.de
You re welcome, but beware that as pointed by the members here it s only for apps, in games that s another story due to the bigger cache of the 5700X.Thank you for posting those benchmarks! They're quite thorough, and some of the results are surprising. Never imagined the "G" beats the "X", even by small margins...
In addition to more cache, I thought the 5700X also had a higher boost clock compared to the 5700G. So how can it be slower in anything?
not really, All those chips are just variants of existing ones. Also, asrock now starts mentioning earliest BIOS that CPUs can run on (at least for AM5)I assume these new chips need BIOS updates? I have a X570 mb here, I should probably flash it before I sell it, but the latest BIOS is from october.
it will be worse, since L3 on dual-ccd chips is not shared by all cores. It's split.Never noticed this before but 7900X3D having more L3 than 7800X3D means that some testing could be done by turning off two slowest cores on each CCD and then pitting it against 7800X3D to see the performance impact in the most cache sensitive games/workloads. Another approach is to choose the two best cores on the frequency CCD and turn the other four off while keeping all cores on the V-cache CCD active.
Like if you think this is worth investigating. Better yet, link to a review that has already done it!
He says it's locked down harder than the 7800X3D and he may try an old X370 or 470 with an external clock gen.BTW Buildzoid ordered a 5700X3D to try overclocking on a A520 board. Stay tuned as that should be fun.