AMD Ryzen 5000 Builders Thread

[B-Riz]

	Cores Threads	Base Freq	Turbo Freq	L3 Cache	TDP	MSRP
Ryzen 9 5950X	16c/32t	3400	4900	64 MB	105 W	$799
Ryzen 9 5900X	12c/24t	3700	4800	64 MB	105 W	$549
Ryzen 7 5800X	8c/16t	3800	4700	32 MB	105 W	$449
Ryzen 5 5600X	6c/12t	3700	4600	32 MB	65 W	$299

5600X comes with cooler, the rest do not.

above from https://www.anandtech.com/show/1614...en-3-on-nov-5th-19-ipc-claims-best-gaming-cpu

 

[lopri]

So for a TL;DW summary, what is VBS, and is WIndows 11 generally performing better than Windows 10?

Virtualization-based Security (VBS)

Provides guidance on what an OEM should do to enable VBS

learn.microsoft.com

 

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After watching the Gamers Nexus Arrow Lake review -

 

[Thibsie]

After watching the Gamers Nexus Arrow Lake review -

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In short ?

 

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In short ?

TLDW = GN has all of the Zen 3 3D CPUs beating the latest $319 245K consistently and handily in gaming. Rich from Digital Foundry also has the 5800X3D outperforming the missing in action flagship 285K in cyberpunk, F1 '24, and MS Flight Sim by 20-30%. Gamers Nexus shows the 5800X3D outperforming the 285K in most of their game suite as well.

AM4 has now competed against NINE generations of Intel CPUs, and in many titles its best gaming CPUs are still highly competitive or outright winning, sometimes impressively, against the full stack of LGA 1851. Those are GOAT stats.

 

[phillyman36]

TLDW = GN has all of the Zen 3 3D CPUs beating the latest $319 245K consistently and handily in gaming. Rich from Digital Foundry also has the 5800X3D outperforming the missing in action flagship 285K in cyberpunk, F1 '24, and MS Flight Sim by 20-30%. Gamers Nexus shows the 5800X3D outperforming the 285K in most of their game suite as well.

AM4 has now competed against NINE generations of Intel CPUs, and in many titles its best gaming CPUs are still highly competitive or outright winning, sometimes impressively, against the full stack of LGA 1851. Those are GOAT stats.

Ill say 1 thing i did 2 pc builds this weekend. The 9900x build went fine. No issues(Have to figure out when gaming how to make sure the first ccd is used) I can Play Fortnite or any game that has Anticheat attached to it. My 265k build on the other hand BSOD. Cant even play Fortnite on that pc. I have always been a fan of Intel (not a fanboy just was happy with my usage) I have a bad taste in my mouth from Intel.

 

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Ill say 1 thing i did 2 pc builds this weekend. The 9900x build went fine. No issues(Have to figure out when gaming how to make sure the first ccd is used) I can Play Fortnite or any game that has Anticheat attached to it. My 265k build on the other hand BSOD. Cant even play Fortnite on that pc. I have always been a fan of Intel (not a fanboy just was happy with my usage) I have a bad taste in my mouth from Intel.

You are not the only life long Intel user I have read similar comments from. Ruining their reputation "Intel just works" is worse than anything else they could have nerfed. "No one gets fired for buying Intel" is another slogan that is unlikely to continue being used.

I have predominantly bought Intel laptops/notebooks over the decades. Conversely, I have mostly been AMD on desktop since the 90s in order to support competition. With the bonus that they were often the better bang for buck and good overclockers most gens.

I also bought 2 ARC cards to support competition in the GPU space. However, I cannot support Intel after the way they handled Raptor Lake. I don't think if I bought it, that I would ding them for arrow lake however, as it's called the bleeding edge for good reason. Almost always issues out of the gate with either vendor, when they launch a new platform or generation. I follow the old rule of thumb to wait 6 months. Last time I violated the rule, I preordered a RX 5700 XT and it turned into the worst GPU experience I'd had in 20yrs or more. Cut me so deep I bought 3 RTX from 2 gens before I even gave AMD another shot.

The craziest part of arrow lake is that it may be every bit as dead of a platform as AM4 and worse for gaming. That is something I could not have even imagined when AM4 launched in retail almost 8yrs ago. Just typing it feels like I am on crazy pills.

 

[Markfw]

You are not the only life long Intel user I have read similar comments from. Ruining their reputation "Intel just works" is worse than anything else they could have nerfed. "No one gets fired for buying Intel" is another slogan that is unlikely to continue being used.

I have predominantly bought Intel laptops/notebooks over the decades. Conversely, I have mostly been AMD on desktop since the 90s in order to support competition. With the bonus that they were often the better bang for buck and good overclockers most gens.

I also bought 2 ARC cards to support competition in the GPU space. However, I cannot support Intel after the way they handled Raptor Lake. I don't think if I bought it, that I would ding them for arrow lake however, as it's called the bleeding edge for good reason. Almost always issues out of the gate with either vendor, when they launch a new platform or generation. I follow the old rule of thumb to wait 6 months. Last time I violated the rule, I preordered a RX 5700 XT and it turned into the worst GPU experience I'd had in 20yrs or more. Cut me so deep I bought 3 RTX from 2 gens before I even gave AMD another shot.

The craziest part of arrow lake is that it may be every bit as dead of a platform as AM4 and worse for gaming. That is something I could not have even imagined when AM4 launched in retail almost 8yrs ago. Just typing it feels like I am on crazy pills.

But...Zen 5 worked. NO aborts, crashes and the like since day one. Intel can not say that at all for this new release. These comments are proof of that, and as you said, not the first person to have this problem.

 

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But...Zen 5 worked. NO aborts, crashes and the like since day one. Intel can not say that at all for this new release. These comments are proof of that, and as you said, not the first person to have this problem.

The same Zen 5 that was recalled and the launch delayed? And it was not a flawless launch when it finally did happen. Multiple reviewers had stability issues day one. Gamers Nexus in particular had a hell of a time with testing 9000 series. But that's a discussion we would need to move to the 9000 builders thread. This thread is for 5000, and has turned into me constantly gushing over how magnificently Zen 3 3D is aging. 🤣

 

[marees]

AMD launches Ryzen 5 5600T and 5600XT processors for AM4 sockets — prices start at $186​

AMD has quietly released new and affordable AM4 CPUs — the AMD Ryzen 5 5600T and 5600XT. These chips are available now on Amazon, with the former priced at $186.58, while the latter costs $192.08 as of this writing. This pricing makes them the most affordable processors from the Team Red at launch, although you could now get the Ryzen 5 5600X for $125.50 on Amazon.

Both new processors still get the 6 cores and 12 threads, similar to the 5600 and 5600X that they seem to be replacing. However, the 5600T now has a base clock speed of 3.7 GHz — 200 MHz faster than the 5600, while the 5600XT gets 100 MHz more than the 5600X, allowing it to hit 3.8 GHz. Aside from that, their TDPs and L3 cache remain the same at 65 watts and 32MB respectively.

AMD launches Ryzen 5 5600T and 5600XT processors for AM4 sockets — prices start at $186

New AM4 processors just dropped.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Markfw]

The same Zen 5 that was recalled and the launch delayed? And it was not a flawless launch when it finally did happen. Multiple reviewers had stability issues day one. Gamers Nexus in particular had a hell of a time with testing 9000 series. But that's a discussion we would need to move to the 9000 builders thread. This thread is for 5000, and has turned into me constantly gushing over how magnificently Zen 3 3D is aging. 🤣

I guess my comment stems from after it released to sales. No person that I remember had issues like Intel has now. But not to derail, I will quit this line.