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.vodka

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$400 for a 1700x and $95 for a H100i. Rumored price for the 1700x is $389.

I thought that shiny new hardware price hike was going to be worse than $10.

Also, "This item will be released on March 2, 2017. ".

All but confirmed, 28th NDA/embargo lift at the Capsaicin event, March 2 available to buy. Great!
 
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MaxDepth

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From Amazon price breakdown: AMD YD170XBCAEWOF Ryzen 7 1700X Processor $399.00
An 1800X looks to be $499
 
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Toettoetdaan

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You are the one being irrational. Very much so. USB is just like Ethernet, buying hubs does not slow down performance unless you are saturating 1 ports throughput.

What you are proposing having enough USB ports for everything on the mobo itself would be the same thing as refusing to buy a router or a modem that doesnt have enough Ethernet ports to connect to everything in your house, instead of just buying a hub/switch.

Everyone uses hubs.
If you are using USB3 hubs/devices only, but most USB2 defices currently can saturate a USB2 poort. Not a problem if it is a direct connected device. But you do not want to use those on a hub.

The annoying thing with USB3 is that it has a legacy USB2 connection, so on a USB3 hub, all the USB2 devices have to share that single USB2 link. Making you fancy USB3 hub effectively an USB2 hub...
 

Rifter

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If you are using USB3 hubs/devices only, but most USB2 defices currently can saturate a USB2 poort. Not a problem if it is a direct connected device. But you do not want to use those on a hub.

The annoying thing with USB3 is that it has a legacy USB2 connection, so on a USB3 hub, all the USB2 devices have to share that single USB2 link. Making you fancy USB3 hub effectively an USB2 hub...

Sure, but other than KB/mouse which do fine sharing a usb2 ports speed what would you be using thats bandwidth starved and USB 2 in todays time? USB2 is ancient even my 7 year old PC has USB3. Anything requiring high bandwidth such as HDD docks, external HDD/SSD flash drives etc are all USB3.
 

Valantar

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People, can we put the USB port discussion to sleep, maybe? It's not quite relevant to the thread, and it's in the way of actually discussing our planned builds. Perhaps create a thread in the motherboards forum to continue the USB issue (if there's any point?)?
 

.vodka

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Probably from the Crosshair VI Hero having 14 USB ports on the back and then some via headers on the motherboard.
 
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lopri

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Thanks. But I am still not getting it. The chipsets provide 14/10/9 USB ports, and individual motherboards can always go for more via 3rd party chipsets.

 

krumme

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I like more ports, I cannot lie.
Some people also wants more than 14 cupholders in their car. Some can get by using 4 pcx. And they dont want to pay for the ones wanting 14 cupholders or long velour in the trunk or heated armrest...
all different priorities but they all want the car to drive and drive well and fast and at lower cost than yesterday so for the most part they have to skimp on the velour or a few cups.
 

scannall

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This summer looks like a Ryzen build for me. Time to retire my OC'd x5660, and not pay the 'Intel Tax'. Time to go 4k for me as well. May as well go big.
 
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Crono

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Some people also wants more than 14 cupholders in their car. Some can get by using 4 pcx. And they dont want to pay for the ones wanting 14 cupholders or long velour in the trunk or heated armrest...
all different priorities but they all want the car to drive and drive well and fast and at lower cost than yesterday so for the most part they have to skimp on the velour or a few cups.

You want 14 cupholders there's an option: a bus. Is a bus for everyone? No, but they exist, and no one is forced to buy one.

You want a smaller vehicle? Buy a sedan, a roadster, an SUV... whatever. There are options. The sedan owner shouldn't be telling everyone else two or four cupholders is good enough for everyone. The manufacturer will get the hint if it doesn't sell.

... and that's my last bit of contribution to the USB argument. I'm building both a mid tower ATX and a mini ITX build, so I don't really care if people get annoyed by too many USB ports. I'm building these for my wants/needs, not theirs.
 

guskline

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Since this is the AMD Ryzen builder's thread I'll update since my last post.

I'm planning an AMD Ryzen 1800x with Asus Crossfire VI build,

So far I have my Thermaltake V51 case stripped of all internal cages and 5.25 bays. I have a Magicool 360 slim rad with 3 XSPC 1600rpm 120mm fans in the roof and a Magicool 360 slim G2 rad with 3 XSPC 1600rpm 120mm fans in the front. I have a Swiftech MCP 35x pump with a Phobya Balancer 150 reservoir on top of it and an EK Supremacy EVO cpu block with the new AMD4 adapter. I will control the fans with a controller.

I have a New Windows 10 Home USBchip (32/64) plus a Corsair MP500 M2. 2280 480G ssd and Gskill 2x8 TidentZ DDR4-3200 ram.

Just need the cpu and mb to get rocking.
 
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007ELmO

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What's so good about the AMD Ryzen processor, could someone please summarize? Is it cooler, faster, and less power consumption than Intel's offerings?

I'm building 4 mini-itx rigs and looking for quality gaming parts. Thanks!
 
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Valantar

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What's so good about the AMD Ryzen processor, could someone please summarize? Is it cooler, faster, and less power consumption than Intel's offerings?

I'm building 4 mini-itx rigs and looking for quality gaming parts. Thanks!
Not the thread for this, but I'll bite: they're rumored to be competitive with Intel in terms of IPC (=performance per clock speed), while being significantly cheaper for the same amount of cores.. Possibly lower power, but that's debatable - AMD specifies TDP in a different way than Intel, and AMD has shown a comparison between an engineering sample 8-core Ryzen chip and an Intel i7-6900K with only a few watts separating them in a similar workload (the top-end 8-core Ryzen is rumored to have a TDP of 95W, while the 6900k is specced at 140W TDP, but again, Intel and AMD specify TDP in different ways).

It's the price/performance ratio and the fact that we might finally have some competition in the CPU market again that's got people excited. Also, all Ryzen chips are unlocked for overclocking, and they have some new and exciting features (XFR or Extended Frequency Range ~= more or less automatic temperature-dependent overclocking, is chief among these).

Also, Ryzen gives you the option for more than 4 cores/8 threads on a consumer platform, while Intel limits this to its "enthusiast/prosumer" X99 platform, which is significantly more expensive (both CPUs and motherboards).

For more information: check out one of the roughly a dozen threads here concerning Ryzen rumors. Or just wait a week or so for launch, reviews and the like. By then we'll actually know things, rather than have leaks, rumors and speculation.
 
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The need for extra connectivity can better satisfied by workstation/server grade products. Hopefully AMD delivers there as well.
 

Ramaddil

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Home Server Upgrade. Replacing a FX 8320 32GB Ram 990FX Sabertooth

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 (Already Own)
Motherboard: Asus Prime X370-PRO
Graphics card: Radeon HD 5450 (Already Own)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LED (4X16GB - 64GB Total) (DDR4 3000)
Storage: Samsung 950 128GB (Already Own)
Power supply: Corsair HX1000i Platinum (Already Own)
Case: Lian Li 343B (Already Own)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional
 
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007ELmO

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Not the thread for this, but I'll bite: they're rumored to be competitive with Intel in terms of IPC (=performance per clock speed), while being significantly cheaper for the same amount of cores.. Possibly lower power, but that's debatable - AMD specifies TDP in a different way than Intel, and AMD has shown a comparison between an engineering sample 8-core Ryzen chip and an Intel i7-6900K with only a few watts separating them in a similar workload (the top-end 8-core Ryzen is rumored to have a TDP of 95W, while the 6900k is specced at 140W TDP, but again, Intel and AMD specify TDP in different ways).

It's the price/performance ratio and the fact that we might finally have some competition in the CPU market again that's got people excited. Also, all Ryzen chips are unlocked for overclocking, and they have some new and exciting features (XFR or Extended Frequency Range ~= more or less automatic temperature-dependent overclocking, is chief among these).

Also, Ryzen gives you the option for more than 4 cores/8 threads on a consumer platform, while Intel limits this to its "enthusiast/prosumer" X99 platform, which is significantly more expensive (both CPUs and motherboards).

For more information: check out one of the roughly a dozen threads here concerning Ryzen rumors. Or just wait a week or so for launch, reviews and the like. By then we'll actually know things, rather than have leaks, rumors and speculation.

Thanks for the info!
 

sirmo

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Just preordered my 1800x need to find a mobo I like...

edit: MSI Titanium it is.. comes out 5 days later.. oh well.
 
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MaxDepth

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@Rammaddil: Why do you need bigger for a home server? Are you running video decoding on that system? File sharing doesn't really require anything beefy anymore.

Home Server Upgrade. Replacing a FX 8320 32GB Ram 990FX Sabertooth

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 (Already Own)
Motherboard: Asus Prime X370-PRO
Graphics card: Radeon HD 5450 (Already Own)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LED (4X16GB - 64GB Total) (DDR4 3000)
Storage: Samsung 950 128GB (Already Own)
Power supply: Corsair HX1000i Platinum (Already Own)
Case: Lian Li 343B (Already Own)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional
 
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