AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[Sonikku]

Even if I had the money, I couldn't imagine building a new system now with the way ram costs are these days. If Larry wasn't saving my bacon by giving me one of his systems, I honestly wouldn't know what I'd do with my current system failing. I remember getting 8 gigs for my i5 2500 system half a decade ago for $40. Now if you want a decent 16gb pair for Ryzen you're looking at $180. Ouch!

 

[DrMrLordX]

GPU prices are worse, sadly. As far as RAM prices go, blame cell phones.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

GPU prices are worse, sadly. As far as RAM prices go, blame cell phones.

GPU prices have fallen recently. I saw 6 GB 1060s under $300 over the weekend and my brother bought a 1070 for $400, which is higher than normal but not as insane as the $400+ 1060s we saw a few weeks back.

 

[EXCellR8]

anyone have a 1300X yet?

 

[scannall]

Looks like it's almost time to start my build. Seems like all the release bugs have been hammered flat. And a big thanks to all the early adopters out there who helped make that happen.
Here is what I am looking at.

Possible R7 Build

But some little voice keeps whispering "Threadripper" in my ear. It's a tempting little SOB.

 

[Crumpet]

Looks like it's almost time to start my build. Seems like all the release bugs have been hammered flat. And a big thanks to all the early adopters out there who helped make that happen.
Here is what I am looking at.

Possible R7 Build

But some little voice keeps whispering "Threadripper" in my ear. It's a tempting little SOB.

I wonder if Threadripper 1900X with quad channel support would run at higher memory speed on those quad kits.

 

[scannall]

I wonder if Threadripper 1900X with quad channel support would run at higher memory speed on those quad kits.

I don't know. And that does make it tempting to put off a bit longer.

 

[Crumpet]

It would work out vastly more expensive for you, so it would really depend on if you'd make the most of those PCIE lanes or the extra *potential* memory speed over 4 kits

 

[scannall]

It would work out vastly more expensive for you, so it would really depend on if you'd make the most of those PCIE lanes or the extra *potential* memory speed over 4 kits

I do tend to keep rigs for a long time. My current Xeon is 7 years old now. I am thinking that new pcie standards and new ram standards are about 3 years off, requiring new motherboards and CPU's. So going really big now may not be the best investment. Still, being a tech nerd I can't help but drool at 16 cores and 64 pcie lanes.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Looks like it's almost time to start my build. Seems like all the release bugs have been hammered flat. And a big thanks to all the early adopters out there who helped make that happen.
Here is what I am looking at.

Possible R7 Build

But some little voice keeps whispering "Threadripper" in my ear. It's a tempting little SOB.

I heard the 1800x may have received a price cut, so check that out. I bought my 1700x for $290 a few weeks ago on a Monoprice deal - I'd put an alert on Slickdeals for those deals.

 

[plopke]

Out of curiosity anyone still with a none OC 1700 , to what levels do your cpu VCORE spike.

 

[IEC]

Out of curiosity anyone still with a none OC 1700 , to what levels do your cpu VCORE spike.

According to HWiNFO64, my R7 1700 rig on the Gigabyte K7 mobo is using 1.068V vCore at stock settings, 100% BOINC load. I am not sure if that's accurate as compared to DMM reading or not, but it sounds about right.

 

[plopke]

According to HWiNFO64, my R7 1700 rig on the Gigabyte K7 mobo is using 1.068V vCore at stock settings, 100% BOINC load. I am not sure if that's accurate as compared to DMM reading or not, but it sounds about right.

Thx under full load i would say something similar here like around 1.116 , but noticed on burst/boost over very short times it goes to 1.416 for example , what is your max recorded ?

 

[repoman0]

Thx under full load i would say something similar here like around 1.116 , but noticed on burst/boost over very short times it goes to 1.416 for example , what is your max recorded ?

I noticed that too -- it's the boost clock voltage. Try running a stress test like prime95 with only 1 or 2 threads. It'll boost up to 3.7GHz and use around 1.4V. I seem to remember it using more power at 1.4V with two threads loaded than full 100% load at the normal 1.18V!

 

[EXCellR8]

hmm... haven't taken a look at that

 

[.vodka]

Well, with enough tuning you can get a lot out of those 3200MHz SR modules.

After six years my 4.5GHz 2500k has finally retired. R7 1700, C6H and 2x8GB Gskill TridentZ 3466 CL16 (B-die). This should last me another six years, easily. Up next some quick pictures I took while doing the upgrade.

Spoiler: Pictures

So tidy... oh well. Time to take this apart.

Gotta love the C6H keeping the AM3 mounting holes, saved me from drilling the backplate and front plate. I even had the AM4 holes marked and lined up in both, ready for drilling in case I did get the Taichi instead of this one.

Yeah... that should be enough heatsink. 17.1cm high, 140mm fan. The wraith spire is actually a VERY decent stock heatsink, I was impressed with it. I would be glad to use that if I didn't already have this one.

Looks great, better than the poop brown general color scheme on the Sabertooth P67, heatsinks and PCB.

In case anyone's wondering that's a CM 690II Advanced (bought in 2010) with the DVD bays and hard drive cages removed. Dead silent. I have a 2TB storage drive on the PSU and the SSD is laid down on the sound dampening foam down there, much better airflow without all that useless metal. PSU is still fine (750w PC P&C Silencer, Seasonic based) after seven/eight years, but it'll be the next thing to be upgraded. Bronce to Gold or better should save some power.

This thing is ridiculously smooth and fast, I now see how long in the tooth that 4.5GHz i5 was. Well, on top of similar single threaded performance when OC'd at 4GHz, I have another 4 cores and 12 extra threads, it's insane. I drool at the task manager. Platform wise P67 is a dinosaur compared to this, I now have PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0, faster USB2 (near 40MB/s transfer rate vs ~30MB/s), lots of USB3 connectivity, a x4 M.2 slot, USB3.1g2+USBc, all SATA3 ports vs 2 SATA3 and the rest SATA2, etc. Love it.

I did try to find a 2600k or 3770k before this seeing how the extra 4 threads help over the i5's 4... but they'd ask similar money for a R5 1600 or R7 1700/x around here... nah. Not worth it. They can keep those and put them where the sun doesn't shine.

Thankfully everything runs just fine, no bad parts... so I'll get to do some OCing and get to know how this system likes being pushed, same as I did with the 2500k. Oh, the heatsink is ice cold, the 2500k would heat that up to the touch. Nice to have an all AMD rig once again, I have good memories of that AthlonXP+9600XT rig back in the day (yeah, ATI, but still).

Updated the BIOS to 1403 (AGESA 1006), loaded up the XMP profile and it booted on the first try at 3466CL16 and didn't crash at some quick stress testing, not bad. Hopefully this 1700 is a silicon lottery winner and needs little voltage at or near 4GHz.


When Ryzen 2 or 3 launches in 2019/2020 I'll sell this 1700 and get one of these 7nm monsters, should be quite the upgrade. The overkill VRM (my main motivation on choosing either this or the Taichi) on the C6H should have no problems overclocking these.

 

[Sonikku]

After six years my 4.5GHz 2500k has finally retired.

Be sure to get it framed so you can hang it above your mantle or fireplace.

 

[.vodka]

I will.

This one stays with me and certainly deserves a frame. That was one solid computer, never had a single issue with it, ran 4.5GHZ 1.32v 24/7 all these years. We'll see about this one now.

 

[scannall]

Be sure to get it framed so you can hang it above your mantle or fireplace.

I still have the Apple ][+ I bought brand new. Confuses the hell out of my grandkids. ;-) I'm mean that way.

 

[IRobot23]

Interesting. If these results are representative, it sounds like the "Samsung B-die single rank" stuff was really overhyped. I'd be perfectly happy with 2666MHz dual rank given those results, particularly since that means I could start with 2x16GB sticks and go 64GB down the road with no performance penalty.

It also looks like guaranteed B-die RAM is even more overpriced than normal DDR4, so good news on that front that it's not really necessary.

I have Samsung E die. Works great.
I will try 4 sticks, 3200MHz with C6H Samsung E die.

 

[IRobot23]

The latest 0805.

I am very sorry to hear that you cant manage that freq, well...

 

[.vodka]

Got here with a little tweaking and some P95 29.2 testing, I'll fine tune the memory later and turn that into a pstate overclock. Still, this is quite the upgrade from that 2500k, similar ST performance at 4.5GHz and a truckload more MT performance that I was needing lately. This, on top of the platform upgrade... So happy!

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1.3v vcore (could be less, P95 doesn't crash, need to test more, 4GHz 1.35v crashes P95)
1.05v vSOC (just set it, need to find the ideal voltage)
1.35v memory (XMP profile)
XMP profile timings and speed, geardown enabled, etc.

Need to tighten this, I could squeeze some more performance out. I also need to see if this can cold boot.. etc. Need to read the forums a lot... this will be a fun weekend.

 

[Sonikku]

I have Samsung E die. Works great.
I will try 4 sticks, 3200MHz with C6H Samsung E die.

How much worse is RAM like this for Ryzen exactly? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...-_-DesktopMemory-_-20232394-S3A4D&ignorebbr=1

Ram prices are all over the place, even for the same speeds! I'm guessing it's over timings/latency.

 

[Markfw]

How much worse is RAM like this for Ryzen exactly? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...-_-DesktopMemory-_-20232394-S3A4D&ignorebbr=1

Ram prices are all over the place, even for the same speeds! I'm guessing it's over timings/latency.

I have no real numbers to tell you. PC3200 is WAY better than 2133 or 2400, but cas 16 vs 14 ? not sure the numbers on that. Buy the best you can afford (within reason) This stuff looks "decent"

 

[DrMrLordX]

I could maybe do some AIDA64 runs this weekend at different clockspeeds and latencies to show how it works on a Taichi anyway. You will see some performance variance from board to board as well, and also things can vary based on secondary timings.

Just gotta get through work tomorrow ugh.