I wasn't looking at the power. I was just looking at the warranty mostly. I'm sure any decent PSU will be more than fine.
If I may ask, why should he get a 750W PSU for a setup with a 95W CPU and a 75W GPU? Even if both are overclocked into oblivion, he'll never see 300W under any type of load. Even the 550W would be inaudible and under no noticeable stress at those loads. On the other hand, the more oversized the PSU, the farther outside its efficiency sweet spot you'll land. There's a significant difference in efficiency between a G3 550W and 750W at 200-250W loads.
Well, I have had 10 PSU's fail, most of them 700 watt OCZ (the rebranded forton ones). Most of the time when they went, they took the motherboard, memory and at least one other component with them. It only takes once to learn your lesson (my first one died after I had purchased all of them).ppl go crazy over buying a "quality" psu.
I have never spent more than $50 for a psu, and I have never had an issue. Just buy something decent.
Well, I have had 10 PSU's fail, most of them 700 watt OCZ (the rebranded forton ones). Most of the time when they went, they took the motherboard, memory and at least one other component with them. It only takes once to learn your lesson (my first one died after I had purchased all of them).
Now I buy only quality PSU's, and try to get them sized so they run 50-60% load all the time.
just my 2 cents.....
Large difference btn cheaping out, and not spending over a $100 for a psu.Miners and DC geeks LOVE eVGA G2/P2 units. I've only had 1 die on me ever, and it didn't take anything else with it. RMA was painless as well. I can't say the same for budget units. Only takes one instance of a PSU taking out most of a rig before you realize cheaping out on the most important component isn't a good idea...
All but one of those failed OCZ units was not under heavy load or doing DC or anything else.Large difference btn cheaping out, and not spending over a $100 for a psu.
Now, if you are running mining machines constantly, then sure. You might need a MTBF of a 100,000 hours.
Large difference btn cheaping out, and not spending over a $100 for a psu.
Now, if you are running mining machines constantly, then sure. You might need a MTBF of a 100,000 hours.
Your Seasonic x-660 looks like you have good taste in PSU's, and I agree, quality is formost, but sizing... You never want to exceed 70-80% load. Thats when it really can damage a PSU, if its constant usage. The closest I have run is 600 watt load on an 850. That even worries me a little. So, get a kill-a-watt. See your wall load. Then multiply by about 80% to see your max capable(efficiency), then multiply that by 1.3 or so to see the optimum size you should get.You don't need to spend over $100. Just don't buy absurdly large PSUs. More watts is NOT the same as better quality. A good quality unit that is small is much better than a crap quality unit with a billion watts.
All AM4 boards are out of stock at newegg.
They are mostly pre-order. I think that means they just can't sell them yet.Yep, they aren't on sale yet.
This is my components so far for a new build: (everything is from Newegg, and I had to keep it below $1000) If you see somewhere I can improve without much more cost, please inform me.
G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Intel X99 Platform Extreme Performance ...
Fractal Design Core 1500 Black Compact MATX Mini Tower Computer Case
ASRock AB350 Pro4 AM4 AMD Promontory B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX Motherboards - AMD
MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti DirectX 12 GTX 1050 Ti 4GT OC 4GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready ATX Video Card
CORSAIR CX Series CX600 600W 80 PLUS BRONZE Active PFC ATX12V & EPS12V Power Supply
AMD RYZEN 7 1700 8-Core 3.0 GHz (3.7 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 65W YD1700BBAEBOX Desktop Processor
WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX
SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 120GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-75E120B/AM
The EVGA G3s we're discussing are <Large difference btn cheaping out, and not spending over a $100 for a psu.
Now, if you are running mining machines constantly, then sure. You might need a MTBF of a 100,000 hours.
That's exactly what they do - PSU ratings are DC output ratings, and the losses happen before the DC output. An 850 that's 90% efficient at full load can thus "safely" draw 944W from the wall. At 600 at the wall, you're right in your sweet spot.Edit. Its possible that the PSU manufacturers rate their PSU's after loss, so don't yell at me if I got this wrong.
Thanks, good to know !That's exactly what they do - PSU ratings are DC output ratings, and the losses happen before the DC output. An 850 that's 90% efficient at full load can thus "safely" draw 944W from the wall. At 600 at the wall, you're right in your sweet spot.
Dual ALC 1220 with Front & Rear 120dB SNR HD Audio with Dual Smart Headphone Amps
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- Audio
- 2 x Realtek® ALC1220 codecs
- Support for Sound Blaster X-Fi MB5
- High Definition Audio
- 2/4/5.1/7.1-channel
- Support for S/PDIF Out
Was looking at boards and noticed this on the GB GA-AX370-GAMING 5 specs page...
Can anyone explain what the dual codecs are achieving here? "Front & Rear" isn't making anything turn in my head and I don't see anything unusual in the I/O panel.
Maybe it's just an amp for front panel headphone jack and one for real I/O panel?
You can refine it further. I get the budget limitations but maybe in some areas it's key to look at value.
- My biggest objection is the HDD. Best value is with 3-4 platters so you want to buy something with 3-4TB at 25$-ish per TB. Even if you don't really need the capacity right now as 50$ for 1TB is just too much.
- 128GB SSD is just very slow and the one you list is horrible value. If you keep an eye on deals you can find lower end 500GB SSDs at 110--120$ and lower end at 500GB is gonna be quite a bit faster than your choice. 256GB is gonna be less than ideal too for both perf and value but maybe it's an option for you to stay in budget.
- The PSU is not great. You can go well bellow 600W with your build and/or you can get higher efficiency and quality.
- The case seems rather basic and not that cheap. I don't know your needs but you might be able to do better, either get more at same price or save 20-30$.
- for the DRAM you can likely do a bit better, timing and/or clocks wise for the price. Keep an eye on memory scaling for Ryzen before deciding.
- for the GPU i would say that you are getting somewhat poor value for the money. There are some GPU deals and you can do substantially better.
Your current total is 919$ so you have minimal room to 1k$ but you should use that room to aim for better value. If you could postpone the HDD purchase to gain a bit of extra room it would help quite a lot.
Do look for deals for SSDs, HDDs, cases, PSUs, DRAM, GPU as that can save you quite a bit.
Ok , what components would you suggest then?
This is what I'd do, given similar budget and assuming similar setup, for just over $900. Given a little more money I'd probably go for RX 480 (8GB, ideally) or GTX 1060.
You paired a mATX case with a full sized ATX mobo.
If that case has room, then you should get a better gpu. RX 470 4gb, or even 480, will run circles around the 1050ti, and can be had at the same price.This is what I'd do, given similar budget and assuming similar setup, for just over $900. Given a little more money but still within/around $1,000 I'd probably go for RX 480 (8GB, ideally) or GTX 1060 (6GB) if you are an Nvidia person. There are a million different combinations, though, so it's not like I think the below is the best, just an alternative.
EDIT: black edition of WD drive isn't necessary, the blue version you selected would be just fine, or you could upgrade to larger capacity. I didn't realize the black was no longer faster, it just has a longer warranty now.
If that case has room, then you should get a better gpu. RX 470 4gb, or even 480, will run circles around the 1050ti, and can be had at the same price.
WD black are more expensive because of the 5 year warranty, but that seems redundant on a 1 tb hdd.
Have not had experience with team group ssds.
No, Blue's are the new greens, they are all 5400RPM, blacks are still 7200 RPM, reds are 5400, red pros are 7200.Did not realize the Blue drives are actually faster than Black now. It's been a while since I've had a hard drive, I'm purely SSD now.