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Fortunately i was able to make recovery using a usb pen with the new bios. Loaded fine in ez recovery utility. Good.Edit (fixed it)
Just bricked my asus prime b350m mb trying to upgrade bios that went online today. Used the windows utility. Havnt tried anything similar for 30 years. Dont touch that crap. Its okey its not finished but if you cant safely update bios its useless. Even using windows.
It stopped midway and didnt move. Knew it was a small risk to restart but i couldnt restart the utility to reload. Tried to clear cmos and battery but clearly to bios is written bad. If anyone got some ideas super.
Fortunately i was able to make recovery using a usb pen with the new bios. Loaded fine in ez recovery utility. Good.
Usually, the process does get better as time goes on, that is no secret.
You can also wait for all the teething issues to get ironed out as well.
Same applies to the mobos, ever release that I can recall from every maker has needed BIOS updates, AMD or intel or VIA, they all have things they missed until more people try their boards and they find issues.
As if you should wait or not, only you know that, if your system is good enough, then wait, if not, you bite the bullet or make some choices.
If you can wait, I bet a new stepping or 1900X with more OC headroom or at least +100-200MHz stock clocks will be released.
I was hitting the limits of my 6700K already so I didn't want to wait.
I was leaning towards the 1700X, but after seeing Stilt's numbers, I believe the 1700 is the way to go, especially for my SFF build. Just an insane level of efficiency. Not to mention where I live I can get both a 1700 and a NH-U14s for the price of the 1700X. I could go with the stock Wraith Spire, but it will be a high ambient temperature environment, hence better cooling is needed, especially for SFF.So, based on reviews and the fact that there seems to be near-zero room for higher clocks on lower core count models, I'm leaning heavily towards ordering either a 1700 or 1700X.
My use case is mainly casual use (browsing, videos etc.), office tasks and gaming. I'm a bit of an edge case, as I just finished my masters in media studies, and I'm now working on a PhD application. If it wasn't obvious, game studies is my main field of interest (and what I wrote my masters on, and what my PhD project is about). As such, I'll most likely need to record quite a bit of video while gaming. I might end up doing some video work for publication too, although that's definitely not for sure. Mainly for analysis and review of whatever aspect I'm researching.
Outside of that, those of you that have read enough of my posts here might know that I like my hardware to last. And last and last and last. My previous desktop CPU is/was a Core2Quad Q9450. It gave up the ghost after nearly nine years.
I do feel a sort of deja vu about this, as when I bought that chip everyone was saying "get an E8400, Quads are useless for gaming!" Yet here I am, eight years later, and that quad has kept chugging along (with a 30% OC, but never mind) while no PC with a 2C2T CPU from 2008 is even remotely viable for gaming today. Sure, they got better FPS than me for a few years. Then they went obsolete. I feel the situation with "high clocked 4c8t is the best for gaming!" today might be a parallel to this. Of course, I might be wrong. But that's what motivates me towards buying Ryzen, anyway. After all, single core performance has largely stagnated, and even with Ryzen bringing back competition, I don't see it picking back up in a meaningful way.
With that in mind, do you agree that I should get a 1700(X)?
I'm leaning towards the X as I'd like to avoid overclocking for as long as possible, and I'm wary of the low all-core boost clock of the non-X, as well as losing all of Ryzen's power saving features. Alternatively, if it's easy to switch into (and out of) preconfigured OC modes from software in Windows that would make this more of an option.
Now, to keep this from really becoming a wall of text, I'll hold off on discussing my motherboard options.
While I agree to a certain extent, I have to balance absolute performance with efficiency as I don't plan to replace this CPU for at least 5 years (although I might consider moving to a last-generation AM4 CPU in 2020 or so if they're much faster). And yes, I'm factoring in that most games will probably make much better use of Ryzen's resources in the coming years. And I'm a) in a cold climate, and b) water cooling any way (custom loop including my Fury X to fit it all in a small case), so 30W more doesn't bother me. The price hike is noticeable, of course.I was leaning towards the 1700X, but after seeing Stilt's numbers, I believe the 1700 is the way to go, especially for my SFF build. Just an insane level of efficiency. Not to mention where I live I can get both a 1700 and a NH-U14s for the price of the 1700X. I could go with the stock Wraith Spire, but it will be a high ambient temperature environment, hence better cooling is needed, especially for SFF.
Edit (fixed it)
Just bricked my asus prime b350m mb trying to upgrade bios that went online today. Used the windows utility. Havnt tried anything similar for 30 years. Dont touch that crap. Its okey its not finished but if you cant safely update bios its useless. Even using windows.
It stopped midway and didnt move. Knew it was a small risk to restart but i couldnt restart the utility to reload. Tried to clear cmos and battery but clearly to bios is written bad. If anyone got some ideas super.
That reminded me of a time when I forgot the details of a quest in Morrowind and had to flip through the wonderful journal system it had. Fun times.I updated the bios on my asus prime b350m today and memory speed went from 2133c15 to 2933 (forgot the c and now its lost - its insane
fiddled some more and cant get back to 2933 only 2666c16.
Glad you were able to recover krumme. Looking forward to both of your builds progress.
I'm also looking for an mATX AM4 board, that Asus B350M Prime is the only one available on Newegg.ca currently. I would have liked to have gone for the Gigabyte. What were the reasons you went with that particular board?
Looking at the reddit AMD summary thread, this board only has a 6 VRMs, as opposed to the 9 on the AB350M Pro4, and the 7+1 on the GA-AB350M-Gaming 3? Does it matter? The ASRock doesn't list support for more than 2667 DDR4 memory, on their specifications page. Are you both using faster ram?
Thanks.
1700 is the best bang per buck. You're not giving up anything by not going 1700x or 1800x other than higher default clocks and a possible better overclocker chip. With that said I bought a 1800X for bragging rights I guess (been waiting a long time for (Ry)Zen).New Member, I need info to build my Ryzen machine
I have problems trying to understand which one would suit me well.
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 : OK, Minor OC on Air, will stock cooler do
Motherboard: B350 MicroATX , which one should I get, which Vendor will provide future BIOS updates
RAM: > 2x16GB 3000 MHz, CL15 would be OK? which RAM is most optimum. I cannot pay for expensive RAM.
I am curious if future BIOS updates could improve memory latency/performance. Also if microcode / firmware fixes in BIOS could improve CPU performance.
Also will there be a Win 10 patch for Ryzen? to improve performance. I am wondering if what I will get from 1700 could improve or if I have to go higher, but too expensive for not much performance boost.
I run Linux VMs in Win10 with lots of Compilation, and I want to game a little .
I want the 8 cores, finally I hope 1700 will be the one for me for 360 bucks.
The other components I am OK.
Please some one help me.
Many many thanks
New Member, I need info to build my Ryzen machine
I have problems trying to understand which one would suit me well.
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 : OK, Minor OC on Air, will stock cooler do
Motherboard: B350 MicroATX , which one should I get, which Vendor will provide future BIOS updates
RAM: > 2x16GB 3000 MHz, CL15 would be OK? which RAM is most optimum. I cannot pay for expensive RAM.
I am curious if future BIOS updates could improve memory latency/performance. Also if microcode / firmware fixes in BIOS could improve CPU performance.
Also will there be a Win 10 patch for Ryzen? to improve performance. I am wondering if what I will get from 1700 could improve or if I have to go higher, but too expensive for not much performance boost.
I run Linux VMs in Win10 with lots of Compilation, and I want to game a little .
I want the 8 cores, finally I hope 1700 will be the one for me for 360 bucks.
The other components I am OK.
Please some one help me.
Many many thanks
Remember that unless you OC to or past max single core boost, you'll lose single threaded performance as boost is deactivated in OC mode. Might not be relevant to your workload, but worth mentioning.Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 : OK, Minor OC on Air, will stock cooler do