I don't want to discourage you, but I feel inclined to inform you that some users on reddit compared this Tomahawk to the Intel version of the board and noticed the VRM heat sinks appear to be the same ones, and the ones on the intel version overheated during OC because the heat sinks are solid blocks of aluminum and don't have enough fins to dissipate the heat adequately. I don't know if that's actually true, but I'd hate for you to get excited and run into a nasty surprise. Might want to google the crap out of that one before taking the plunge.
Doesn't that in the end depend almost entirely of the specs further down the line? A 4+3 setup with high-spec parts could easily outperform an 6+4 or 8+4 with bargain basement parts, no? Isn't the amperage rating of the mosfets and chokes far more important than the actual number of phases? I understand that it's easier to ensure stable, noise-free power over more phases (as load per phase is lower), but if the parts themselves ultimately determine the quality of the power delivered, no?
Does anyone have any info on the VRM setup on the MSI B350M Mortar?
Another Heads up folks, seems there have been a rash of ASUS Crosshair VI Hero boards getting bricked by a random and mysterious automatic BIOS update.
Here is a few people from Reddit that had their boards die: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5xn51g/my_asus_crosshair_vi_hero_got_bricked/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5xmg5p/asus_c6h_wont_do_anything/
Also, JaysTwoCents had one of his do the same.
Edit: Looking into this, it's really bad... Lots of peoples boards are bricking everywhere, reflashing doesn't work and it looks like ASUS is doing a recall!
https://forums.mydigitallife.infoWould you please share where the community based WMC software is described and available for download...again concerned as I hear Microsoft will be soon doing another Win 10 version update and those really can F***k up some of the community supported/developed software or actually remove non approved software. Any idea where A12 GPU's can be obtained?
Those rumors are referring to a feature added to the W10 Creators update where users can choose to disable support for Win32 apps (i.e. applications not downloaded from the Windows Store). This is not, and will never ever be, compulsory. It would break support for 99% of the software used on computers today. My impression is that it's a security feature meant for limited use, such as kiosks and other places where you wouldn't want users to be able to install all kinds of software. As such, it's a good idea. The fear-mongering that MS is out to screw over everyone but themselves is blown completely out of proportion. Do they want to increase the amount of apps sold/downloaded from the Windows Store? Sure. But they know, as with everyone else, that they can't force that on people. It would break Windows. Essentially, it would make all Windows into Windows RT - which MS abandoned quite quickly. And, after all, they just introduced an emulation layer to run W32 apps on ARM CPUs. Why would they do that if they planned on blocking them from running outright?Would you please share where the community based WMC software is described and available for download...again concerned as I hear Microsoft will be soon doing another Win 10 version update and those really can F***k up some of the community supported/developed software or actually remove non approved software. Any idea where A12 GPU's can be obtained?
Replacing the stock thermal paste is always a good idea. Always.Picked up a 1700, Prime X370-Pro and Corsair LPX today. Still have to get my MP500 m2 yet though.
Are you 1700 owners using the stock cooler replacing the thermal paste? I've always replaced it on my Intels but not idea if the paste on the Wraith cooler is any good.
Ok. I think that perhaps also explains what i am experiencing. Ran bf1 several hrs at 2933 fine but couldnt make a cold boot and get past bios.For now nobody has access to full DRAM settings so not much can be done.
There is a 2400 trick that folks use , check the AMD section at XS,not sure if it's Gigabyte only or works on other boards too.
I don't have a Ryzen yet and wasn't planning to get one for a few more months but i am starting to be annoyed that i am missing out.
It's kinda fun right now and would really have liked to test gaming in Win 7 and see if i can confirm The Stilt's result where he gets a boost from SMT in gaming.
Ah, it has the same heatsink as the Tomahawk. Right. Oh well. I won't be overclocking much anyhow.See above for the Mortar. Looks like the heatsinks aren't that good.
Yeah, I found the datasheet before you posted, but as I said, all that tells us are the specs of the PWM controller, and nothing at all about the actual ratings of the parts responsible for actual power delivery. All the PWM controller does is allocate loads and control the voltage regulation parts, no? Of course it's important, but again, higher rated mosfets and the like on fewer phases should outperform lower rated parts with more phases (to a certain degree).If you look at the docs to which I linked earlier in this thread, it looks like the specs restrict this particular unit to a 1-4 phase primary and 1-3 phase secondary. It's fundamentally designed for cheap boards. You can look over the specs in the .pdf yourself, if you like. I would be overstepping my bounds to say that I had precise knowledge of everything revealed therein. But this is the stuff The Stilt warned me/us about months ago as being primarily aimed at Bristol Ridge and other 65W parts.
Ok. I think that perhaps also explains what i am experiencing. Ran bf1 several hrs at 2933 fine but couldnt make a cold boot and get past bios.
Its years since i oc using bus clock. And serious man amd and asus needs to get those updates out so its not needed.
Amd clearly have a latency issue that needs to be fixed for next rev of zen but at least bandwith can be fine for now. And meassures really good.
Good luck with the Motherboards folks, apparently every manufacturer vastly underestimated demand for Ryzen and expected supplies for retailers were severely undercut. My MSI X370 Titanium from Amazon won't even get back in stock until between the 10th and 15th of March!
My CPU is being delivered today, but it might as well be a paperweight. *Sigh*
dont buy the Crosshair VI hero. It bricks itself and asus dont know why yet. I think other boards might be fine though.I'm reading really worrying reports about Asus boards, thinking about cancelling my preorder and getting an ASRock.
dont buy the Crosshair VI hero. It bricks itself and asus dont know why yet. I think other boards might be fine though.
How can Motherboard manufacturers underestimate demand? Ryzen was the hottest techtalk for months.
Yeah I ordered the Crosshair VI Hero because everyone talks up Asus boards.. And hey, Reddit is filled with reports of bricked motherboards and even JayzTwoCents bricked one. To be honest the ASRock board suits my colour scheme better anyway.
How can Motherboard manufacturers underestimate demand? Ryzen was the hottest techtalk for months.
Yeah, I found the datasheet before you posted, but as I said, all that tells us are the specs of the PWM controller, and nothing at all about the actual ratings of the parts responsible for actual power delivery. All the PWM controller does is allocate loads and control the voltage regulation parts, no? Of course it's important, but again, higher rated mosfets and the like on fewer phases should outperform lower rated parts with more phases (to a certain degree).
Still, it having nearly as much power delivery for uncore as core does point towards it being geared for APUs with power hungry iGPUs.
Got my 1800X from Altex and will possibly get a call today about a Gigabyte x370 board. Might want to give them a call.
Well if you are into conspiracy theories, lots of AMD Fans are suggesting Intel had a hand in it... Personally I think they were thinking this was another Bulldozer launch and didn't find out until validation samples and then it was too late to ramp up production in time.
What really ruffles my feathers is that AMD went ahead with launch even though most of the major retailers didn't even have Motherboard and sometimes even CPUs in actual hand ahead of preorder window or even Launch day!
Basically some of them got stock the day before and day of launch and Amazon in particular didn't have ANYTHING until the 4th, when they got CPUs and a few low end AM4 boards procured.
Considering the Win10 issues, BIOS issues, Memory issues, Bricked Board issues and then the stock issues... What a messy launch in total.
3.8 at 1.375 can probably go to 3.9 but i dont want to stress it.How far have you pushed the CPU so far?