AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[Mockingbird]

You insult me because i don't agree with an OS as spyware? Microsoft spying on users is a fact not a conspiracy theory. In fact just 3 weeks ago the EU data privacy regulator has raised concerns about it.
You might be ok with Microsoft and Google sniffing your underwear but that doesn't mean that any rational human being should be ok with that.
Anyway this is offtopic and i don't quite see the upside in having a conversation with someone like you.

You could have suggested changing a few settings. Instead, you decided to keep up with your conspiracy theory.

Time to remove that tinfoil hat.

 

[JimmiG]

Not at all, the metal bracket in the back (which comes with the motherboard) is supposed to spread the pressure and reinforce it. I don't really see how it could damage the motherboard. It's pretty sturdy.

I haven't used an air cooler in a while, and while I am really happy with the Noctua D15 and the way it's keeping the CPU cool. I must say I miss all the space I had with AIOs. I forgot to plug the power cable for the CPU when I mounted my motherboard and man it was a major pain getting there and plugging those cables in after the fact. Luckily removing the Noctua fans is super easy which bought me some space to be able to do it.

Also, the heatsinks aren't that heavy. They mostly consist of very thin, light aluminium fins, in some cases a copper base, and a few heatpipes. I'm pretty sure some of the pre-heatpipe solid copper heatsinks were heavier, and those just clipped onto the plastic tabs on the socket.

 

[Malogeek]

Has anyone noticed that every X370 motherboard (except Biostar's) uses Intel l211-AT for LAN Chipset?

In Intel motherboards, Intel i211-AT is only used as second LAN Chipset. The primary LAN Chipset is Intel l218-V/l219-V which is just a pass-through.

This means that AMD's NIC (network interface controller) probably sucks.

I wondered about that. Any reviewers actually mention it? Maybe they just don't have any drivers ready for it.

 

[Phaetos]

Install Windows 10.

When you are activating Windows 10, enter your Windows 7/Windows 8.1 Product key.

Does that still work? I thought they stopped that.

 

[MarkPost]

I'm sure those work quite well, as do a number of other coolers in the $40-$50 range. I just wanted to clarify on comments I made earlier in the thread about the difference between the two different D15 models.

Right now the "best" HSFs are the D15, the high-end Phanteks, and whatever is the latest Silver Arrow. Plus the TRUE Spirit 140 has its fans. But I haven't found anything that can actually do better than the D15 yet. Furthermore, it doesn't look like Zen responds all that well to cooling beyond a certain point anyway. It looks process limited at around the 4.1 GHz mark. I don't think even custom water will do much to overcome that hurdle.

Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT is another great option (my favourite one), its cheaper than D15, and performs on pair or even better, being quieter:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermalright/Le_Grand_Macho/

 

[DisEnchantment]

My ASUS B350 Prime Plus has the Micro Code Patch Level 8001105.
All boards from different vendors should have the same micro code patch right?

What is the 'normal' Temperature for R7 1700X? I have mine always hovering around 56°C.

 

[Malogeek]

My ASUS B350 Prime Plus has the Micro Code Patch Level 8001105.
All boards from different vendors should have the same micro code patch right?

That's my microcode level.

What is the 'normal' Temperature for R7 1700X? I have mine always hovering around 56°C.

Depends on your cooler and ambient?

 

[DisEnchantment]

Depends on your cooler and ambient?

Right, so ambient temperature is ~16°C and my cooler is Noctua L9x65 SE-AM4.
I mean what is the range of Normal safe operation?

 

[Malogeek]

Right, so ambient temperature is ~16°C and my cooler is Noctua L9x65 SE-AM4.

56c is your idle or under a workload? That's very high for idle.

Whats is the thermal limit of the CPU?

About 85c the sirens start going off. Not sure what the official thermal limit is before it shuts down and 75c is the recommended working limit.

 

[DisEnchantment]

56c is your idle or under a workload? That's very high for idle.

Ryzen Master is showing 65 degrees.
OMG, Then I must have installed the cooler wrongly. This is idle Temperature.

I am not sure if the temperature readings are correct. I dont trust this ASUS SW.

But what bothers me is that the Motherboard Chipset is very warm but the cooler heatsink is very cool, but I dont have equipment to measure the temperature But the SW tells me the CPU is 56 degrees and the Chipset 29 degrees.
So how can I be sure I installed the Heatsink correctly? I did not tighten the screws on the sides of the Noctua cooler to the mounting bracket since it is spring loaded. Could this be a problem?

Which SW can I use to read the CPU temperatures reliably?

 

[JimmiG]

From what I've gathered:
95C is the maximum, but you probably don't want it running that hot for normal use.

Ryzen idle temps are very high for some reason. 55C, even 60+ C idle isn't unusual, and is perfectly normal. Also, BIOS temps are not idle. The chip is running at full speed and voltage at the BIOS screen.

Full load (Prime95 or similar), the 1800X typically runs ~72-78C with a decent air cooler, down to the high 60's C with really good custom liquid cooling. 1700X runs a few degrees cooler, and the 1700 runs much cooler.

Initially, many motherboards reported the wrong temps, and monitoring software read the wrong sensors, so some early reviews and reports quote much lower temps. The temps in Ryzen Master seem to be accurate and fairly consistent across different motherboards/CPUs though.

 

[Malogeek]

Ryzen Master is showing 65 degrees.
OMG, Then I must have installed the cooler wrongly. This is idle Temperature.

Actually looking at your cooler it's probably not too bad as it's a downward design. Depending on your airflow I thought it would have been a bit cooler though, especially with your ambient of 16c. When I had my stock Wraith Spire on my 1700, it was idle about the same temp with ambient about 34c.

I can't install Ryzen Master so can't check if temps are accurate or not on my setup

 

[plopke]

Amazon.fr is playing with me , orderd it at 340 euro , next day you can (reserve)order at 330 fine cancel reorder , next day you can order at 320 fine cancel and reorder.But damm you can get a non-K 7700 for just above 300 euro , first time ever it make sense in price now.

 

[Zoffster1]

Finally finished building.

Tried to boot... QCODE 48...Not listed in manual.

Tried bios flashback, didn't do anything.

Several reboots later suddenly started to work. This is so exciting

 

[IEC]

Does that still work? I thought they stopped that.

Still works.

Motherboard changes typically require re-activation. I just re-entered my Win7 key that I used to upgrade to Win 10 Pro and it re-activated online with no issue.

 

[Phaetos]

Still works.

Motherboard changes typically require re-activation. I just re-entered my Win7 key that I used to upgrade to Win 10 Pro and it re-activated online with no issue.

My problem then is that I don't have an installer for Win10 ;-)

 

[plopke]

My problem then is that I don't have an installer for Win10 ;-)

Since late windows 7 and windows 8 you can just download creation tools for a installation dvd or usb.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Off course that requires you to have a PC running to create a usb/dvd windows 10 install medium.

 

[Phaetos]

Since late windows 7 and windows 8 you can just download creation tools for a installation dvd or usb.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Off course that requires you to have a PC running to create a usb/dvd windows 10 install medium.

Thanks, didn't know they still did that.

 

[Chiropteran]

I suspect the ryzen master temperature reading is a bit off. Mine always reads 56-65C idle. While full load, only pushes it up to 69-70C.

Does ANYONE see a reading close to ambient while idle with ryzen master?

 

[Chiropteran]

My ASUS B350 Prime Plus has the Micro Code Patch Level 8001105.
All boards from different vendors should have the same micro code patch right?

What is the 'normal' Temperature for R7 1700X? I have mine always hovering around 56°C.

What tool do you use to read the microcode patch level?

 

[dacostafilipe]

I'm having issues with my Asus Prime B350 board going over 2133 RAM speed.

The only way to get to 2666 is to enable DCOP but that messes up with the CPU voltage and temperature.

BIOS reports 1.51 VCore with my temps going from 40C to 65C (!)

Avoid the ASUS Prime B350M-A for now.

 

[JimmiG]

D.O.C.P is necessary to read the XMP profile and adapt it for AMD. It shouldn't affect the CPU voltage and temps.
I guess you could set all the timings and the voltage manually instead of via XMP if you want to avoid D.O.C.P.

 

[Mockingbird]

I wondered about that. Any reviewers actually mention it? Maybe they just don't have any drivers ready for it.

I don't think it's been mentioned anywhere.

Every X370 motherboard (except Biostar's) uses Intel l211-AT for LAN Chipset and every B350 motherboard uses Realtek 8111H/8111GR.

Motherboard makers probably called each other and asked what they are doing.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Finally finished building.

Tried to boot... QCODE 48...Not listed in manual.

Tried bios flashback, didn't do anything.

Several reboots later suddenly started to work. This is so exciting

What motherboard did you end up getting?

 

[Zoffster1]

What motherboard did you end up getting?

CH6, it was literally the only thing I could get.