AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[DisEnchantment]

I was moderately confused about the installation configuration of the memory - I think the manual said to do it like this - does this seem right?

Yes that is correct.
You have same board like mine, they are the A2 and B2 slots.

Wow a Wraith Spire
I want a Wraith Max.

 

[Doom2pro]

I see people using A1 & B1 DIMM slots all over the place, not sure if that's correct

Best thing to do is RTFM and do what it says. MSI X370 Titanium has A2, B2 first.

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A1      A2     B1    B2
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A1     A2     B1    B2.
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[Markfw]

I see people using A1 & B1 DIMM slots all over the place, not sure if that's correct

Best thing to do is RTFM and do what it says. MSI X370 Titanium has A2, B2 first.

        '            '
A1      A2     B1    B2
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A1     A2    B1    B2.
       ^            ^

Same with ASRock, and for that matter every motherboard I have seen for years. Intel included.

 

[Malogeek]

I wish premium pc components came with software on a usb stick instead of dvd. It's the only reason I still have an optical drive.

Who installs anything from the DVD for PC Components? I'm usually straight to the manufacturers website to get the latest versions.

Whilst I understand your sentiment, DVD disks cost almost nothing and a USB drive would increase costs overall when you're talking massive amounts of sales.

 

[Valantar]

Who installs anything from the DVD for PC Components? I'm usually straight to the manufacturers website to get the latest versions.

Whilst I understand your sentiment, DVD disks cost almost nothing and a USB drive would increase costs overall when you're talking massive amounts of sales.

Yeah. I can't remember using a driver DVD since the early Windows 7 days, and even then it was rare. Even obscure chinese peripherals from Aliexpress usually auto-install through built-in drivers or Windows Update. Haven't had an incompatible accessory in years.

But yeah, printing a DVD costs a few cents, especially if they bundle drivers for a bunch of products and print them all identically.

 

[burninatortech4]

The Gigabyte GA-AB350M is finally shipping from Newegg US. Seems like the best mATX board so far.

 

[Markfw]

So, I have NO overclocking features on my new motherboard (the temp one) with the 1800x.

Bios update maybe ? 2/28 is the current bios date.

 

[Malogeek]

So, I have NO overclocking features on my new motherboard (the temp one) with the 1800x.

Yeah I looked at your manual when troubleshooting your Windows issue. There's not much there.

Windows application instead?

 

[EXCellR8]

looks like I might be able to start assembling mine on Saturday... I didn't think Newegg would ship the board out this week but it shows "In transit" for end of day 3/18.

I'm just looking forward to not having PC parts littered around all over the place. It looks like some poor robot got viciously murdered...

 

[Markfw]

Yeah I looked at your manual when troubleshooting your Windows issue. There's not much there.

Windows application instead?

So I had to use the windows bios update utility to get the ability to use BIOS flash utility. It worked (thank you ASRock) Now I am going to the latest bios, which has the ability to overclock and update bios from bios.

 

[richierich1212]

Yup I'm still currently waiting for my 1700 from that original $309 deal from GEEKDEAL on eBay last Thursday. They said they will have stock on 3/20 and will ship out then. I just want to see what my Gigabyte AB-350M can do, even when there hasn't been a BIOS update since 2/20.

 

[Mockingbird]

I was rummaging through my parts pile and found my old Zalman CNPS9900ALED.

It's an absolutely a beautiful cooler.

It uses a clip for mounting so it's probably compatible with AM4.

 

[Doom2pro]

I don't have my motherboard yet (arrives the 21st) but I already started my build, got PSU in, Fan Controller, DVD Drive, AIO Radiator & Fans, SATA 2TB Drive, RGB LED Light Strips.

I have some cables already routed, not tied down though (for obvious reasons)... Saved at least an hour and a half off build day. Besides It's not like I had anything else better to do and I couldn't resist!

 

[TypoFairy©]

Finally got shipping confirmation on my crosshair iv the wait is almost over

 

[CuriousMike]

Thanks @DisEnchantment - I tried DOCP and, while 3200 still errors out, 2933 is working.
I also took a chance and went to 3.8ghz and thats stable enough for me running a few tests.

Stock 3.0ghz (with boost to 3.7) + 2133 ram gave me a Cinebench CPU score of 1388.
At 3.8ghz +2933 got me to 1671 - seems like a decent result.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Woohoo! Just locked down the lone Taichi at Microcenter using their credit card hold. Guess I'll be doing that second build after all :-D

Let me know if you have any luck getting the integrated wireless to work. Mine is still running in 802.11b mode which sucks.

My temp motherboard is coming today, so question, what is the best free tool to measure cpu speed in each core ?

AMD Master, HWiNFO64 both work. CPU-z works too.

I see people using A1 & B1 DIMM slots all over the place, not sure if that's correct

Best thing to do is RTFM and do what it says. MSI X370 Titanium has A2, B2 first.

The Taichi wants A2 + B2 as well.

So I haven't tweaked anything yet. I got X370 Taichi UEFI rev 1.55 beta flashed using the DOS utility. It's interesting that the DOS utility does nothing but hook into the UEFI flash utility, which is not available in the menu of UEFI rev 1.2p (shipping rev for my board). Anyway Rufus + USB stick + FreeDOS install = victory. No need to use the Windows flasher.

Flashing the UEFI made my NVMe gumstick drive vanish from the boot list. I had to dig into a submenu and select the drive to get it back as a bootable option. Weird.

Running bone stock with NH-D15S + stock fan + 2x NF-A14 3000s with the fans running . . . pretty slowly, actually, it's hard to get the system to crack 50c. CPU-z stress test puts it at 47C (3.7 GHz, Win10 Performance Mode). The fans are in their lowest RPM during the test and are barely audible. Package power is 96W. I'll crank the fans back up to max later and see how that goes.

 

[Crono]

Hero came in today. I didn't have time before work to do much other than swap out the Titanium (still a great board, will use it for a Ryzen 5 build, likely), transfer the other parts, and mount the Raijintek Triton 360 (which has some really short tubes, wouldn't recommend it for most builds for that reason alone) with the Deepcool fans.

Have to update the BIOS, check temps, and overclock/stress test once again, but I did boot it up at least and it seems to be working okay, so that's a good sign.

 

[CuriousMike]

My previous build was a i5-4590 stock with 16GB DDR1600 ram.

I did a few tests before replacing it with the Ryzen.

Of particular importance to me was my Lightroom test.
For this test, I took four photos that I wanted to stitch together (Photo Merge->Panorama in LR parlance ) and measured the time to open the preview and to do the full render.

i5-4590 = 13.2 seconds preview, 22.1 seconds full render
Ryzen at 3.8Ghz + 2933 ram = 15.7 seconds preview, 30.0 seconds full render.

Disappointing, but not terrible.

I'm also a big Dirt Rally player, and measured 1080p and 4k with my 4GB RX 480.

i5-4590 -
Low/Avg/High
1080p = 74 / 88/ 115
2160p = 33 / 40 / 54

Ryzen 1700 stock @ 2133
1080p = 65 / 85 / 107
2160p = 34 / 40/ 47

Ryzen 1700 @ 3.8 @ 2933
1080p = 83 / 104 / 130
2160p = 35 / 41 / 54

So, the stock Ryzen was worse at normal clock speeds, but got a very nice boost at 1080p when the memory was upped and matched the 4590 @ 2160p.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

I was moderately confused about the installation configuration of the memory - I think the manual said to do it like this - does this seem right?

Yep it looks good to me and that is what it shows in my manual as well. By the way guys I got my Motherboard from Fed-Ex today.I will get her all put together tomorrow.

 

[Markfw]

OK< up and running.. But no matter what I do in bios, it won;t run over 3700, even if I saw 4000, and on some settings runs at 3200 when I say 4000. And memory is also odd. Might have to try different bios's

 

[SketchMaster]

My previous build was a i5-4590 stock with 16GB DDR1600 ram.

I did a few tests before replacing it with the Ryzen.

Of particular importance to me was my Lightroom test.
For this test, I took four photos that I wanted to stitch together (Photo Merge->Panorama in LR parlance ) and measured the time to open the preview and to do the full render.

i5-4590 = 13.2 seconds preview, 22.1 seconds full render
Ryzen at 3.8Ghz + 2933 ram = 15.7 seconds preview, 30.0 seconds full render.

Disappointing, but not terrible.

I'm also a big Dirt Rally player, and measured 1080p and 4k with my 4GB RX 480.

i5-4590 -
Low/Avg/High
1080p = 74 / 88/ 115
2160p = 33 / 40 / 54

Ryzen 1700 stock @ 2133
1080p = 65 / 85 / 107
2160p = 34 / 40/ 47

Ryzen 1700 @ 3.8 @ 2933
1080p = 83 / 104 / 130
2160p = 35 / 41 / 54

So, the stock Ryzen was worse at normal clock speeds, but got a very nice boost at 1080p when the memory was upped and matched the 4590 @ 2160p.

Lightroom is very single threaded not optimized for multithreading, so not going to run well on any high core/low freq CPU.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...Intel-Core-i7-7700K-i5-7600K-Performance-880/

 

[krumme]

Thanks @DisEnchantment - I tried DOCP and, while 3200 still errors out, 2933 is working.
I also took a chance and went to 3.8ghz and thats stable enough for me running a few tests.

Stock 3.0ghz (with boost to 3.7) + 2133 ram gave me a Cinebench CPU score of 1388.
At 3.8ghz +2933 got me to 1671 - seems like a decent result.

Can i have you guys report the mem setting from cpuz since there is a difference? Trc?
Can you boot and read 3200 so we can have a comparison?

 

[Mockingbird]

Is anyone going with a tempered glass case?

The Corsair Crystal 460X is so tempting

 

[DrMrLordX]

OK< up and running.. But no matter what I do in bios, it won;t run over 3700, even if I saw 4000, and on some settings runs at 3200 when I say 4000. And memory is also odd. Might have to try different bios's

You tried Ryzen Master yet? OC in the UEFI has been a disaster for me on the Taichi, but Ryzen Master makes it work just fine.

Right now I'm running 4050 MHz on all cores (OC Mode), DDR4-3200 14-14-14-32 1T. 1.35v vcore with level 3 LLC and 1.4v vDIMM. VDDCR SOC is 1.050v . I raised some other oddball voltages in the UEFI.

On the Taichi, all I do is set my voltages in the UEFI and then adjust clocks/timings using Ryzen Master. Any kind of memory OC in the UEFI causes a reboot loop. What fun!

 

[JimmiG]

I was rummaging through my parts pile and found my old Zalman CNPS9900ALED.

It's an absolutely a beautiful cooler.

It uses a clip for mounting so it's probably compatible with AM4.

Have that cooler in my gutted Phenom II rig in the basement. Not the greatest performer but very pretty