Woohoo! Just locked down the lone Taichi at Microcenter using their credit card hold. Guess I'll be doing that second build after all :-D
Ouch. Makes me happy I cancelled my B350M Mortar order. And even more happy that Biostar seems to be one (of seemingly few) with ITX AM4 boards in the pipeline. Although they're nearly impossible to find here in Norway. Only nearly, though. It can be done.Well call me weak. I couldn't wait for the Asrock Tacichi. I picked up a Biostar X370GT7, Ryzen 1700, and G.Skill TridentZ 3200 CAS 14 yesterday. It will all be here Friday. 4 reasons for going Biostar 1) I found they've got their newer BIOS posted on their TW site. Fairly common to find the home site updated before the rest of the world. 2) VRM + Power IC setup, excellent phase design, 60A mosfets, quality components all around 3) I found pictures of their BIOS screens. Nothing I can't deal with. 4) I could buy one
Another interesting tidbit I found was that MSI should be avoided altogether. They are using Niko-Semi components even on their Titanium board. They are hot (literally) garbage. The Titanium board componentwise is $150 board they are selling at 2x the price.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1624051
and
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html
Ouch. Makes me happy I cancelled my B350M Mortar order. And even more happy that Biostar seems to be one (of seemingly few) with ITX AM4 boards in the pipeline. Although they're nearly impossible to find here in Norway. Only nearly, though. It can be done.
Heh, that's funny, considering Asus boards in general (and not just the C6H) are getting panned for stability, features, RAM speeds, BIOS trouble and all kinds of shenanigans. Oh well. I'm quite fond of ASrock (heck, they sent me a custom beta BIOS for my FM2+ HTPC board when I reported some issues I was having! Who does that?), though, and they usually make some great ITX boards. Just disappointed that they haven't shown anything yet, and that nothing has leaked. On the other hand, they're a relatively small company, and I bet their production capacity isn't on par with the big three, so it makes sense for them to try and churn out the high-volume models first. Even if I expect the first brand to launch a good ITX AM4 board to be swimming in cash as soon as it ships...You will definitely see more trade-offs in components going down to the B350 boards, but those two links will help you navigate which ones are skimping at the price point. For instance, Asrock X370 are top tier designs and components, but their B350 use Niko-Semi components. As of right now the Asus B350 have the best designs and components for that tier.
Heh, that's funny, considering Asus boards in general (and not just the C6H) are getting panned for stability, features, RAM speeds, BIOS trouble and all kinds of shenanigans. Oh well. I'm quite fond of ASrock (heck, they sent me a custom beta BIOS for my FM2+ HTPC board when I reported some issues I was having! Who does that?), though, and they usually make some great ITX boards. Just disappointed that they haven't shown anything yet, and that nothing has leaked. On the other hand, they're a relatively small company, and I bet their production capacity isn't on par with the big three, so it makes sense for them to try and churn out the high-volume models first. Even if I expect the first brand to launch a good ITX AM4 board to be swimming in cash as soon as it ships...
As standard the cpu voltage goes to 1.3625 xfr so you are perfectly safe. Your cpu can perhaps run 4.0 at 1.39V? Seems very fine to me.
Your workload probably have a lot of branching that is not favorable to Ryzen and therefore depend on ram latency and ccx shoufling. Its nearly a worst case scenario for zen you just need some avx2 in the loop to make it worse. 3200 ram would probably get it 8% faster than your hsw 4 vs 4 ghz. Some workloads is just like that.
If I've understood the peculiarities of Ryzen correctly, any adjustment to the CPU settings that even resembles overclocking (such as adjusting voltage) will disable boost completely and set the CPU into "OC mode" (P0 power state). Are you sure it was completely stock when you tested it, with no adjustments at all?
Well multi-threaded Cinebench will use the all-core boost of +100 MHz.
For single-threaded Cinebench, you may need to switch to the Balanced power plan for Precision Boost to work. Without core parking, it doesn't seem to detect idle cores properly and you're limited to the "all cores" boost speed, which is just 100 MHz above the base clock.
Also keep in mind that the single-threaded Cinebench thread will jump around between cores, so you'll have to use something that monitors all cores to keep track of which core is boosting.
Heh, that's funny, considering Asus boards in general (and not just the C6H) are getting panned for stability, features, RAM speeds, BIOS trouble and all kinds of shenanigans. Oh well. I'm quite fond of ASrock (heck, they sent me a custom beta BIOS for my FM2+ HTPC board when I reported some issues I was having! Who does that?), though, and they usually make some great ITX boards. Just disappointed that they haven't shown anything yet, and that nothing has leaked. On the other hand, they're a relatively small company, and I bet their production capacity isn't on par with the big three, so it makes sense for them to try and churn out the high-volume models first. Even if I expect the first brand to launch a good ITX AM4 board to be swimming in cash as soon as it ships...
I noticed this aswell. gaming or encoding I'd never see it jump, but starting a browser or other program might show a short spike to 3.7 This was will 500ms poll interval on HWinfo. Ryzen Master never showed anything but 3.2 all core. 3.2 is the speed mine hangs out at all the time, not 3.1 btw. Only thing I've done in BIOS is disable SMT.I'm getting a really strange issue. The CPU doesn't seem to boost at all, maybe shoot to 3.7 for a moment and then drop back down to 3.1 even if I'm hammering it with OCCT.
I noticed this aswell. gaming or encoding I'd never see it jump, but starting a browser or other program might show a short spike to 3.7 This was will 500ms poll interval on HWinfo. Ryzen Master never showed anything but 3.2 all core. 3.2 is the speed mine hangs out at all the time, not 3.1 btw. Only thing I've done in BIOS is disable SMT.
Are you running in high performance power mode in Windows? If you aren't your chip will not boost correctly.
yes. I always use High Performance on every system I've had, even my laptop.Are you running in high performance power mode in Windows? If you aren't your chip will not boost correctly.
yes. I always use High Performance on every system I've had, even my laptop.
Well call me weak. I couldn't wait for the Asrock Tacichi. I picked up a Biostar X370GT7, Ryzen 1700, and G.Skill TridentZ 3200 CAS 14 yesterday. It will all be here Friday. 4 reasons for going Biostar 1) I found they've got their newer BIOS posted on their TW site. Fairly common to find the home site updated before the rest of the world. 2) VRM + Power IC setup, excellent phase design, 60A mosfets, quality components all around 3) I found pictures of their BIOS screens. Nothing I can't deal with. 4) I could buy one
Another interesting tidbit I found was that MSI should be avoided altogether. They are using Niko-Semi components even on their Titanium board. They are hot (literally) garbage. The Titanium board componentwise is $150 board they are selling at 2x the price.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1624051
and
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html
I may just reset to defaults and see if I can observe boost speeds more frequentlyHmm, you said you disabled SMT? Check to make sure your BIOS isn't in an OC mode and defaulted to low clock rates.
Let us know how it works
Update on my PRIME B350M-A build.
I've now got the RAM running at 2666Mhz without DCOP, will shoot for more this weekend.
Will also try the older 0405 BIOS again this weekend and if I can run the RAM at the same speed, I will stick to it. The 0502 does seems to read the CPU temperature wrong (20C offset?) and messes up with the fan speed.
With the 0502 I also get higher Vcore compared to 0405. At stock, it reads 1.415 Vcore in the BIOS and CPU-Z shows me up to 1.52V ... kinda scary :/
Asus release BIOS is definitely a mess. Complete debacle. I think they might have gotten it to an acceptable level with the 902 release from 3/13.
My temp motherboard is coming today, so question, what is the best free tool to measure cpu speed in each core ?