AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[Agent-47]

Yes, Ubuntu 17.04 64bit AMD version works fine for me. Only you have to use the second option when trying it out with live cd from DVDr or flash drive.I think its called ahci mode. After installing you must upgrade to the latest kernel which is like 4.11 or 4.10 I think.

okay, AMD does not support RAID on Linux yet
i usually have three drives: 2x SSD in RAID0 used as Windows boot drive. 1x1TB HDD with a 200GB EXT4 Linux partition and other 800GB as NTFS, access from both systems.

after a day of trying all sorts of thing, including whipping MRB on my non-RIAD HDD, i came with the following conclusions, in case someone might be interested:

1. AMD RAID controller is not supported in Linux, i tried kernels 4.4 to 4.10. and the drivers in AMD website
2. if you said up RAID0 with two drives and then leave the third drive alone (not add to the list), windows/Linux do not see the HDD disk at all, not even in device manager.
3. if you have to set up the third disk as VOLUME Array, their version on single disk usage, windows will pick up both drives but not Linux. even when installing the latest drivers available on AMD website. lol

I came up with a dirty fix to dual boot, until the day AMD releases a proper driver:
1. install raid0 on the two SSDs and raid-volume on the third HDD, install windows and all is good.
2. back up the HDD partitions and wipe the MRB. I donot know if this is needed, but i thought did it any way.
3. disable RAID in BIOS and install linux on the HDD like normal, without altering anything on the two SSDs. Linux will install and boot normally. at this stage the RAID controller will have two entries for my HDD: one AMD-RAID-VOLUME, and one LEGACY (unfortunately this LEGACY flag is not something that can me manually configured from the RAID controller).
4. enable RAID into BIOS to boot into windows and restore the partition like before, without touching the EXT4 partitions.

Now to boot into windows, one needs to set SATA MODE as RAID in BIOS and change it to AHCI again for booting into linux...and access the data in the other partitions from both HDD normally. But the RAID0 array cannot be accessed in linux, but this is not an issue for me.

Dirtiest fix i can think of, but it works. Unfortunately, this is a case of AMD not releasing Linux driver and a RAID controller that do not allow users to configure HDD in "Legacy mode". So we have to wait for those.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Fantastic graphics and physics scores, but why on earth is your combined score lower than what my mere 2500k+ single 1070 gave me?

Combined scores on Ryzen systems are very low across the board. Nobody has provided me with a convincing reason why yet.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

okay, AMD does not support RAID on Linux yet
i usually have three drives: 2x SSD in RAID0 used as Windows boot drive. 1x1TB HDD with a 200GB EXT4 Linux partition and other 800GB as NTFS, access from both systems.

after a day of trying all sorts of thing, including whipping MRB on my non-RIAD HDD, i came with the following conclusions, in case someone might be interested:

1. AMD RAID controller is not supported in Linux, i tried kernels 4.4 to 4.10. and the drivers in AMD website
2. if you said up RAID0 with two drives and then leave the third drive alone (not add to the list), windows/Linux do not see the HDD disk at all, not even in device manager.
3. if you have to set up the third disk as VOLUME Array, their version on single disk usage, windows will pick up both drives but not Linux. even when installing the latest drivers available on AMD website. lol

I came up with a dirty fix to dual boot, until the day AMD releases a proper driver:
1. install raid0 on the two SSDs and raid-volume on the third HDD, install windows and all is good.
2. back up the HDD partitions and wipe the MRB. I donot know if this is needed, but i thought did it any way.
3. disable RAID in BIOS and install linux on the HDD like normal, without altering anything on the two SSDs. Linux will install and boot normally. at this stage the RAID controller will have two entries for my HDD: one AMD-RAID-VOLUME, and one LEGACY (unfortunately this LEGACY flag is not something that can me manually configured from the RAID controller).
4. enable RAID into BIOS to boot into windows and restore the partition like before, without touching the EXT4 partitions.

Now to boot into windows, one needs to set SATA MODE as RAID in BIOS and change it to AHCI again for booting into linux...and access the data in the other partitions from both HDD normally. But the RAID0 array cannot be accessed in linux, but this is not an issue for me.

Dirtiest fix i can think of, but it works. Unfortunately, this is a case of AMD not releasing Linux driver and a RAID controller that do not allow users to configure HDD in "Legacy mode". So we have to wait for those.

Sorry to hear your having problems. My I ask if you tried pressing f6 or f4 when trying to boot into Ubuntu?Depending on what version of Ubuntu you are using, This will bring up a menu with several options and choosing safe boot usually helps.If this still doesnt work maybe try going to the ubuntu forums and posting your problem in this link.
https://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332

 

[w3rd]

okay, AMD does not support RAID on Linux yet
i usually have three drives: 2x SSD in RAID0 used as Windows boot drive. 1x1TB HDD with a 200GB EXT4 Linux partition and other 800GB as NTFS, access from both systems.

after a day of trying all sorts of thing, including whipping MRB on my non-RIAD HDD, i came with the following conclusions, in case someone might be interested:

1. AMD RAID controller is not supported in Linux, i tried kernels 4.4 to 4.10. and the drivers in AMD website
2. if you said up RAID0 with two drives and then leave the third drive alone (not add to the list), windows/Linux do not see the HDD disk at all, not even in device manager.
3. if you have to set up the third disk as VOLUME Array, their version on single disk usage, windows will pick up both drives but not Linux. even when installing the latest drivers available on AMD website. lol

I came up with a dirty fix to dual boot, until the day AMD releases a proper driver:
1. install raid0 on the two SSDs and raid-volume on the third HDD, install windows and all is good.
2. back up the HDD partitions and wipe the MRB. I donot know if this is needed, but i thought did it any way.
3. disable RAID in BIOS and install linux on the HDD like normal, without altering anything on the two SSDs. Linux will install and boot normally. at this stage the RAID controller will have two entries for my HDD: one AMD-RAID-VOLUME, and one LEGACY (unfortunately this LEGACY flag is not something that can me manually configured from the RAID controller).
4. enable RAID into BIOS to boot into windows and restore the partition like before, without touching the EXT4 partitions.

Now to boot into windows, one needs to set SATA MODE as RAID in BIOS and change it to AHCI again for booting into linux...and access the data in the other partitions from both HDD normally. But the RAID0 array cannot be accessed in linux, but this is not an issue for me.

Dirtiest fix i can think of, but it works. Unfortunately, this is a case of AMD not releasing Linux driver and a RAID controller that do not allow users to configure HDD in "Legacy mode". So we have to wait for those.

You need to look at your computer SYSTEM and see if you have it configured for your needs. Unless you are run a high intensity data server, there is no need to raid SSD's.
One gains very little for system resources used, in raid0 SSDs array.

What is so starved in your usage, that you require raid0 in linux..? It seems all your problems start there, so that is why I am questioning it.

 

[Mockingbird]

My power supply unit (PSU) is 10 years old.

Is that an issue?

 

[Agent-47]

Sorry to hear your having problems. My I ask if you tried pressing f6 or f4 when trying to boot into Ubuntu?Depending on what version of Ubuntu you are using, This will bring up a menu with several options and choosing safe boot usually helps.If this still doesnt work maybe try going to the ubuntu forums and posting your problem in this link.
https://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332

I did, including breaking at loading busybox to load RAID driver.

You need to look at your computer SYSTEM and see if you have it configured for your needs. Unless you are run a high intensity data server, there is no need to raid SSD's.
One gains very little for system resources used, in raid0 SSDs array.

What is so starved in your usage, that you require raid0 in linux..? It seems all your problems start there, so that is why I am questioning it.

I use RAID for windows disk only. Its because o had 2 90gb drives that I joined together to make 180gb. I see no issue with it as i used this config for years. Could have done raid 10 as well, but that's beside the point. Point is if I make one array in raid, the other non raided hard drives are rendered unusable in Linux unless you go out of your way to fix it.

it does not work when it should, as its a very commonly used feature. But I am okay with the issue for the moment as its part of early adoption scheme. I just wished AMD would have volunteered the info

 

[NesuD]

noob question...how do you post pictures here? (not with links!)

You have to host them somewhere and then link them. you can do it with a onedrive account by using the onedrive embed code as the link.

 

[Valantar]

You have to host them somewhere and then link them. you can do it with a onedrive account by using the onedrive embed code as the link.

I think you are the fifth or sixth person to answer this now

 

[NesuD]

I think you are the fifth or sixth person to answer this now

I think you are right my friend.

 

[w3rd]

I use RAID for windows disk only. Its because o had 2 90gb drives that I joined together to make 180gb. I see no issue with it as i used this config for years. Could have done raid 10 as well, but that's beside the point. Point is if I make one array in raid, the other non raided hard drives are rendered unusable in Linux unless you go out of your way to fix it.

it does not work when it should, as its a very commonly used feature. But I am okay with the issue for the moment as its part of early adoption scheme. I just wished AMD would have volunteered the info

I am confused.
Are you saying those SSDs are 90gb each..?

 

[Justinbaileyman]

I am confused.
Are you saying those SSDs are 90gb each..?

Then install ubuntu on only one of the SSD's and after it is installed do all the needed system and software updates. after that is finished restart and after booted back into the desktop open a terminal by holding down the keys "ctrl and alt and the letter t" and type in "sudo apt-get install disks". Then open the Disks program that you just installed and format and extend your other ssd to make the one single 90GB ssd into 1 180GB ssd. This will be much easier then what you are trying to do.

 

[AtenRa]

Anyone with a R5 1600 here ?? Or any review links ?? I would like to see what OC we can get on the R5 1600 (non X) with default cooler.

 

[w3rd]

Then install ubuntu on only one of the SSD's and after it is installed do all the needed system and software updates. after that is finished restart and after booted back into the desktop open a terminal by holding down the keys "ctrl and alt and the letter t" and type in "sudo apt-get install disks". Then open the Disks program that you just installed and format and extend your other ssd to make the one single 90GB ssd into 1 180GB ssd. This will be much easier then what you are trying to do.

But why..?
Or he can just buy one 250GB SSD for about $85 bucks..? And never have to go threw all that mess and headache, ever again. Heck, He could even look at partitioning the SSD, too. But to me, post #3333, is just an insane amount of work (& poor use of system resources) just to try and stuff two outdated 90gb drive into a system, as one.

He gains nothing from it. The solution is a larger single drive 0 (250gb SSD), & drop the raid0 from his system build. It is not needed.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

But why..?
Or he can just buy one 250GB SSD for about $85 bucks..? And never have to go threw all that mess and headache, ever again. Heck, He could even look at partitioning the SSD, too. But to me, post #3333, is just an insane amount of work (& poor use of system resources) just to try and stuff two outdated 90gb drive into a system, as one.

He gains nothing from it. The solution is a larger single drive 0 (250gb SSD), & drop the raid0 from his system build. It is not needed.

I know that and you know that, but maybe he doesn't or maybe he doesn't have the money?Besides what I suggested is not hard at all, it is super easy. Copy and paste command into terminal and click enter and then open the said program, right click the unused ssd and click on extend. easy peasy lemon squeezy..

 

[ScottAD]

Anyone with a R5 1600 here ?? Or any review links ?? I would like to see what OC we can get on the R5 1600 (non X) with default cooler.

There are a lot of factors in OC, ambient temp, case air flow, silicon lottery. Tom's has several reporting 3.8 on air and some even 4.1

 

[alexruiz]

Combined scores on Ryzen systems are very low across the board. Nobody has provided me with a convincing reason why yet.

I suspect a 3DMark update is needed.
I noticed the same thing, the combined score is much lower than it should be.
I remember reading that the combined score used only the physical cores, but it still should scale. Furthermore, in FX PCs, it used only half of the modules.
3DMark needs an update.

 

[Crono]

Anyone with a R5 1600 here ?? Or any review links ?? I would like to see what OC we can get on the R5 1600 (non X) with default cooler.

I posted earlier, 3.9GHz with the stock Wraith Spire cooler. I'm switching it over to liquid cooling this week, though, as the AM4 bracket for the Arctic Liquid Freezer 360 came in.

 

[Ajay]

My power supply unit (PSU) is 10 years old.

Is that an issue?

If it meets the ATX 2.3 power supply standard, I don't see any problem (it hasn't changed much since then). I'm not aware of any specific need for Ryzen. It might help if you posted more info like a link to info on the PSU in question.

 

[Valantar]

My power supply unit (PSU) is 10 years old.

Is that an issue?

Only if you don't like leaking or exploding capacitors. Ten years is a long, long time for a PSU to last. Obviously a quality unit. But I'd recycle it just to avoid the risk of it dying and killing every piece of hardware connected to it with a voltage spike.

 

[Agent-47]

Then install ubuntu on only one of the SSD's and after it is installed do all the needed system and software updates. after that is finished restart and after booted back into the desktop open a terminal by holding down the keys "ctrl and alt and the letter t" and type in "sudo apt-get install disks". Then open the Disks program that you just installed and format and extend your other ssd to make the one single 90GB ssd into 1 180GB ssd. This will be much easier then what you are trying to do.

i use windows to run off the SSDs as its still my primary OS

But why..?
Or he can just buy one 250GB SSD for about $85 bucks..? And never have to go threw all that mess and headache, ever again. Heck, He could even look at partitioning the SSD, too. But to me, post #3333, is just an insane amount of work (& poor use of system resources) just to try and stuff two outdated 90gb drive into a system, as one.

He gains nothing from it. The solution is a larger single drive 0 (250gb SSD), & drop the raid0 from his system build. It is not needed.

Jesus! because i can. its a legit method that ryzen is yet to support. its not supposed to be a headache. it has never been since i started using them in 2013. RAID is a very simple thing to implement. just as simple as dynamic disks in windows and what Justinbaileyman said about ubuntu.

o. and I gain SPEEDDDDDD! 1.1 Gb/s! without investing the 85 quid (which tops out at 85 mbps)! or 125 quid on a nvme. "poor use of system resource" only in your mind

 

[anj2208]

I think you are right my friend.

I,ve got it. Thanks anyway


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[Mockingbird]

If it meets the ATX 2.3 power supply standard, I don't see any problem (it hasn't changed much since then). I'm not aware of any specific need for Ryzen. It might help if you posted more info like a link to info on the PSU in question.

Corsair TX650W built by Seasonic

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article813-page1.html

10 years later and it's still working.

 

[realneil]

If money is an issue, use the existing PSU until you can afford another one.
If not, I would replace that 10-year-old (probably growing hair on it anyways) Power Supply.

 

[3DVagabond]

Anyone with a R5 1600 here ?? Or any review links ?? I would like to see what OC we can get on the R5 1600 (non X) with default cooler.

[H] did a review. It's only O/O v O/C. No stock figures

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/04/11/amd_ryzen_5_1600_1400_cpu_review

 

[Malogeek]

If money is an issue, use the existing PSU until you can afford another one.
If not, I would replace that 10-year-old (probably growing hair on it anyways) Power Supply.

Now you guys have me getting paranoid about my 10 year old Enermax Infinity.