AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[richierich1212]

@aigomorla 1800X is $464.99 from both Amazon and B&H, hopefully you don't get taxed at one of those.

Damn that m.2 is pricey!!

 

[Valantar]

I Just want to know if this build is fully capable of VR?

Which build?

 

[gregr507]

Hey guys, looking to put together a new ryzen system. I'm upgrading from a 2500k. I had a few questions trying to decide between parts. I have already ordered an asrock taichi mobo.

1) RAM - I'm trying to decide if I should pick up some Gskill 3200 CL14 (possibly the Flare X) as I know it will be most likely to work with minimal hassle at the rated speeds. My other option is Gskill TridentZ 3600 CL15, which seems like very nice memory. I'm hoping that with the updates AMD and ASrock are pushing out, that 3600 RAM will be supported soon. And I figure memory rated at 3600 CL 15 should have no problem running at 3200, but that seems to be pretty variable. I also wonder if Gskill will be releasing Flare X at higher speeds (e.g. 3600) in the near future that may be more compatible (although I'm not sure how much that matters). I would be getting 2x8 GB kits.

2) 1700 vs 1700x - The price difference is only 50 dollars or so, and I'm wondering if the better binned 1700x might OC better. I have a swiftech h240x cooler, so I think I should be able to push a decent OC.

If anyone has any opinions on these I would be very grateful, as I'd like to order my parts soon.

 

[CuriousMike]

You might read Toms latest post on this, http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclocking-amd-ryzen,5011.html
The 1700 vs 1700x seems to really come down to luck-of-the-draw when it comes to overclocking.
You might try to find out what you'd lose if you can only hit 3.8ghz on either vs. 4.0ghz on either.
They all huddle in that same range.

Hey guys, looking to put together a new ryzen system. I'm upgrading from a 2500k. I had a few questions trying to decide between parts. I have already ordered an asrock taichi mobo.

1) RAM - I'm trying to decide if I should pick up some Gskill 3200 CL14 (possibly the Flare X) as I know it will be most likely to work with minimal hassle at the rated speeds. My other option is Gskill TridentZ 3600 CL15, which seems like very nice memory. I'm hoping that with the updates AMD and ASrock are pushing out, that 3600 RAM will be supported soon. And I figure memory rated at 3600 CL 15 should have no problem running at 3200, but that seems to be pretty variable. I also wonder if Gskill will be releasing Flare X at higher speeds (e.g. 3600) in the near future that may be more compatible (although I'm not sure how much that matters). I would be getting 2x8 GB kits.

2) 1700 vs 1700x - The price difference is only 50 dollars or so, and I'm wondering if the better binned 1700x might OC better. I have a swiftech h240x cooler, so I think I should be able to push a decent OC.

If anyone has any opinions on these I would be very grateful, as I'd like to order my parts soon.

 

[bauerbrazil2014]

Rumor: Latest AMD Engineering Samples!

16c/32t with 3100/3600

Just WOW!

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-engineering-samples-update

 

[DrMrLordX]

I have started piecing out a Ryzen platform to hold me off until skylake-x and 12cores.

But as i am adding stuff up it is getting expensive.

200 for a taichi X370 (16+2 phase VRM's i definitely wants

It's actually 6+2 with doublers. Still awesome power delivery, though.

219 for 32 gigs QVL ram. G.Skill 240

Look at the RAM chew* has used on his Taichi. Granted he had to do bclk OC in some circumstances to get DDR4-3200 operation with 2x16GB but he did pull it off. In any case I would encourage you to examine something from this list:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#s=403200&Z=32768002&L=140,160&sort=a4&page=1

I am hesitant to recommend the Ripjaws, but the Trident Z should work out okay. Also look at the Corsair stuff since if the sticker on the back of the heatspreader says 4.31 then you know it's b-die. It's all probably b-die though.

In any case . . . get b-die. Nothing else will do. Nothing.

Anyhow need to do a bit more research on parts, as i think thats what i am gonna go with, unless someone want to recommend me better tier parts. (no i am not looking for cheaper, i am look for better, but not obnoxiously more expensive for less, ie... msi titanium vs taichi)

I can't think of much better. The C6H apparently has better tweaking options, but the X370 Taichi is (in my opinion) less of a glass-jaw board. Plus you can't really flash it to a UEFI rev that will cause the board to brick itself. None of the other boards are really worth a look.

 

[aigomorla]

The 3200 rams are 1.35v i heard they wont work on a x370.
They are also not listed in the QVL

 

[Ajay]

The 3200 rams are 1.35v i heard they wont work on a x370.
They are also not listed in the QVL

MarkFW has DDR4 running at 3200GHz, as an example.

 

[JimmiG]

1) RAM - I'm trying to decide if I should pick up some Gskill 3200 CL14 (possibly the Flare X) as I know it will be most likely to work with minimal hassle at the rated speeds. My other option is Gskill TridentZ 3600 CL15, which seems like very nice memory. I'm hoping that with the updates AMD and ASrock are pushing out, that 3600 RAM will be supported soon. And I figure memory rated at 3600 CL 15 should have no problem running at 3200, but that seems to be pretty variable. I also wonder if Gskill will be releasing Flare X at higher speeds (e.g. 3600) in the near future that may be more compatible (although I'm not sure how much that matters). I would be getting 2x8 GB kits.

Both those should be Samsung B-die, it's the only IC capable of those speeds. Even my Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600 C18 is B-Die. The 3600 C15 is probably a better bin than the 3200 C14, but the 3200 C14 should have no problems running 3600 at C16 - C18, providing the platform will actually be capable of it after the AGESA update - Even with the new dividers, you'd still be overclocking the SOC/Infinity Fabric quite significantly at those speeds.

 

[Atari2600]

You might read Toms latest post on this, http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclocking-amd-ryzen,5011.html

Its worth noting that Toms is owned by a marketing company that gets paid significant amounts of money from Intel.

Some other websites are in the same boat - but seem to be less.... dubious.... in their recommendations.

 

[fleshconsumed]

@aigomorla 1800X is $464.99 from both Amazon and B&H, hopefully you don't get taxed at one of those.

Usually cheaper on ebay. It's been as low as $429 on ebay just a week ago.

 

[EXCellR8]

3200mhz was extremely flaky (bordering on almost never working) on my ASRock until BIOS v2.20, but the BIOS has been running them at 1.4v since updating

it's the 16GB FlareX kit, complete with fugly heat spreaders. tbh they aren't quite as bad in person.

 

[Crumpet]

Asus Crosshair Hero VI beta bios 1201

Link to download - http://www.mediafire.com/file/e5bxqpdxiqd49zi/CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO-ASUS-1201.zip

Link to post - http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/14500#post_26086532

"Nothing major, has a few bugfixes"

 

[Dresdenboy]

There's a new Gigabyte BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.5: http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread?page=55&scrollTo=4891

Those mem settings! (incl. CR of course!) (more pics at the imgur links):

Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/WjUhL

Source: http://imgur.com/a/i7UYu

 

[Markfw]

I have started piecing out a Ryzen platform to hold me off until skylake-x and 12cores.

But as i am adding stuff up it is getting expensive.

200 for a taichi X370 (16+2 phase VRM's i definitely wants)
219 for 32 gigs QVL ram. G.Skill 2400
450 for m.2 SSD. 960 Evo 1TB
480 for the 1800X

sigh although i find it halarious that a "X" branded cpu from intel alone would cost more then a complete top of the line Ryzen system.

Anyhow need to do a bit more research on parts, as i think thats what i am gonna go with, unless someone want to recommend me better tier parts. (no i am not looking for cheaper, i am look for better, but not obnoxiously more expensive for less, ie... msi titanium vs taichi)

Make sure and get a heatsink for the m.2, they do get hot. Mine got so hot the system locked up. You can use a heat sink from an old motherbord's VRM, cut it to size, and strap it on with zip ties. I would recommend this memory for the speed. Ryzen LOVES fast memory.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232205

You may only get 2400, 2666 or 2933 with 4 sticks, but as BIOS gets more mature, you may get back to 3200. The speed for a Ryzen system will get you a good speed increase.

 

[Markfw]

The 3200 rams are 1.35v i heard they wont work on a x370.
They are also not listed in the QVL

See my other post. This memory is in my Taichi, and my other motherboard, and they both run 3200 (but I only have 2 sticks)

 

[Phaetos]

There's a new Gigabyte BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.5: http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread?page=55&scrollTo=4891

Those mem settings! (incl. CR of course!) (more pics at the imgur links):

Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/WjUhL

Source: http://imgur.com/a/i7UYu

I have no idea what any of that stands for ....

 

[dnavas]

I have no idea what any of that stands for ....

2T support is new, I think. I'm not sure what all the rest of that stands for either

 

[Dresdenboy]

I have no idea what any of that stands for ....

Many are new to me, too. But there's no need to know them all. One important option is the command rate setting (fixed at 1T for earlier AGESA versions, except for special BIOS versions like for the CH6, IIRC).

 

[Topweasel]

Many are new to me, too. But there's no need to know them all. One important option is the command rate setting (fixed at 1T for earlier AGESA versions, except for special BIOS versions like for the CH6, IIRC).

Yeah I am thinking that my Taichi should be able to get me to 3200 on my DR 16GB chips with that CR change. I think it's been the big thing holding us back.

 

[Rifter]

Yeah I am thinking that my Taichi should be able to get me to 3200 on my DR 16GB chips with that CR change. I think it's been the big thing holding us back.

I think its part of the issue, but i think the biggest issue for alot of us is the broken ram voltage, it boots at 1.2v and only applies the bios inputted voltage after boot, so if your ram needs 1.35v to be stable at high speeds it wont boot at all at higher speeds due to booting at 1.2v.

 

[DrMrLordX]

The 3200 rams are 1.35v i heard they wont work on a x370.
They are also not listed in the QVL

I have 2x8GB non-QVL RAM running on my Taichi @ DDR4-3200 14-14-14-32 and have since the first day I built it. It required Ryzen Master to get there since the UEFI was wonky, but it works. I run 1.4v vDIMM, no problems. Ryzen doesn't care about 1.2v vs 1.35v . . .

edit: my RAM is Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3733 CAS/CL 17. There aren't any Corsair DIMMs above DDR4-3000 on their QVL list. That really doesn't matter, though. Just make sure you buy Samsung b-die ICs and you're fine.

 

[SH Bryan]

I

CPU: Ryzen 1800X
Cooling: 120mm AIO
Motherboard: X370 chipset
Storage: 500GB SSD M.2 + 2X 4TB HDD
RAM: At least 16GB
Case: TBD
Power TBD
GPU: TBD

 

[Reinvented]

I currently have an Intel 7600K for gaming, however I am quite interested in upgrading to Ryzen. Should I go the Ryzen 7 route? Or Ryzen 5 for gaming? 1600 vs 1700 vs 7600K. I do plan on streaming and doing some video editing, and definitely lots of gaming.

I also found this memory for a steal. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313795
Would this work okay on a Ryzen build? I was also eyeballing the 1600 Combo's with a mATX board (just because of my case). https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3482372

Just want to make sure this is a decent build to put together. Or if I should save up a bit more and go for a 1700 or not. Would I see much of a difference between the 2 processors?

 

[JimmiG]

I think its part of the issue, but i think the biggest issue for alot of us is the broken ram voltage, it boots at 1.2v and only applies the bios inputted voltage after boot, so if your ram needs 1.35v to be stable at high speeds it wont boot at all at higher speeds due to booting at 1.2v.

That's definitely causing a lot of issues for people. I think many just live with it and have developed some special procedure to get their system to boot (booting at 2133 then applying the correct setting, hitting the reset switch at just the right time etc.). But it's kind of ridiculous that this hasn't been fixed yet.

The 2T setting will make a huge difference for those who are able to boot, but can't get their system stable during stress tests. Most high performance RAM is intended to run at 2T.