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DrMrLordX

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I'll tell you what I use:

Right now I'm @ 3950 MHz with 1.3625v vcore and level 3 LLC. It only droops a teeny weeny bit on my X370 Taichi and is generally stable. I run 1.175v VDDRC_SoC also with level 3 LLC. I have DDR4-3466 14-14-14-28-1T with 1.42v vDIMM and .710v VTT_DDR. I run VPPM and 2.50VPROM_Voltage at 2.6v each. I run +1.8voltage @ 1.9v. My VDDP is 1.05v.

You might not want your voltages that high but you can experiment with it if you like, see where it gets you. Sounds like you wouldn't need that much SoC voltage. Also I don't recommend letting the CPU get too far above the low 70s.
 

Reinvented

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X370 Taichi Overclocking Settings:
Manual
3900
1.325v

Stable mode
Fixed voltage 1.325v
LLC 2
Auto
LLC 2

Not sure what memory you are using, but you can generally enable A-XMP and just leave it on auto voltages, and LLC 2.
These are what I use for a 1700. For a 1700X, you might need more or less voltages. Gotta go for your max clock speed, and max voltages you are willing to use. Then test and back it down for 24/7 use.
 

Shmee

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I updated my the BIOS on my Gigabyte AB350M to F5, finally got memory working at 2666. No luck with 2933 or 3200. I must say while the board has good features for a micro ATX less than $100, I wish there would be more bios updates, or at least better RAM support. I am running a 1700 on it with 2x8GB 3200 Patriot RAM and the wraith spire.

Any tips for eventually OCIng the chip or getting more out of my memory on this board would be appreciated.
 
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richierich1212

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I updated my the BIOS on my Gigabyte AB350M to F5, finally got memory working at 2666. No luck with 2933 or 3200. I must say while the board has good features for a micro ATX less than $100, I wish there would be more bios updates, or at least better RAM support. I am running a 1700 on it with 2x8GB 3200 Patriot RAM and the wraith spire.

Any tips for eventually OCIng the chip or getting more out of my memory on this board would be appreciated.

Are those Hynix? Are you using XMP (is memory on QVL)? If not, on QVL, then you will have to enter in timings manually,
 

Shmee

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Not on the QVL :C I tried both XMP, and manually entering different timings etc, no luck really with higher speeds.
 
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IEC

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Another warning for B350 owners. Be extra careful with your overclocks for the workloads you are running.


Summary seems to be... keep your board components under 100°C if at all possible. With an 85F+ ambient simulating worst-case conditions chew* OC'd a 1700 to 3.8GHz at ~1.381V on a Asus B350 board. Component temps shot up past 110°C under stress test after just 2-3 minutes.

So realistically you will want to stay at or under 3.8GHz/1.3V on a B350 board with an 8-core CPU. And definitely don't exceed 1.35V for long-term usage.
 

EXCellR8

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lol i'd be powering down long before reaching 100c...

going to try my B350 board tonight hopefully. Might have to use the OE cooler for now though I don't have any more AM4 brackets for my available water blocks. i still need to find a case too. I can use some of the older components if I can find something w/ 240mm rad support.
 

AtenRa

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From a Greek forum user,

Memory gaming performance at 2666MHz 16cl , 3200MHz 14cl and 3466MHz 14cl

CPU: R7 1700 @ 4.0GHz
Ram: G.Skill 3600C16 @ 3466C14 LL (low latency)
GPU: MSI 1080 Ti Gaming X
Motherboard: Crosshair VI Hero
OS: Windows 10 CU

results

edit : Motherboard BIOS = 1403
GPU clocks 1911 core, +575 vram.
 
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I've got a 1700 on a Prime X370 Pro cooled by an NH-D15. I seem to be having stability issues above 3.8Ghz, but they seemingly aren't related to temperature. I was able to get to 3.8Ghz at 1.34 vcore, but 3.9 seemed unstable at this voltage. By "unstable" I mean Cinebench crashes consistently after about 10 seconds, I didn't even get to longer stress tests.

I tried raising the voltage further, to 1.35 and then 1.36, but the same thing happened. Temperatures are fine, so it's not an overheating issue. At 3.8Ghz/1.34v I have run stress workloads for nearly 3 hours (encoding in Handbrake while playing Mass Effect Andromeda, so both CPU and GPU were running at 100% usage, on all cores in the CPU's case) and I did not see my CPU go over 72C. When it's crashing while running Cinebench at 3.9Ghz, it's not anywhere close to 70C - usually I'm only getting to about 60-62C before it crashes, so temperature is not the source of the instability.

This is a first world problem for sure as 3.8Ghz for long-term use is perfectly fine, but I'd like to know if I'm doing anything wrong as to why I can't get past there. I am not a complete overclocking noob but most of my previous OCing was done with Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge where it didn't seem to require this much tweaking.

Specs

Ryzen 1700
Asus Prime X370 Pro
NH-D15
16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 (at 2933Mhz, this seems stable but I'm not sure)
GTX 970
Seasonic M12II 520W PSU
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB
 
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guachi

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I have this TridentZ Hynix RAM and I've never been able to get above 2933 no matter what I've tried. It simply refuses to post at 3066 or higher on my ASUS Prime X370-Pro.

I have 3200 MHz Hynix RAM of some manufacturer that I can't remember. It will do 2933 easy but won't post any higher. If I had a sure-fire way of getting there I'd do it but at this point it's not worth my time to fiddle with it myself. It was $50 cheaper than the 3200 MHz B-die Samsung memory, so it's hard to complain too much.
 

EXCellR8

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just spent the last hour and a half searching for my Corsair AM4 adapter but no dice. Thought I found it but it was just the AM3 one that shipped with the cooler. Raaaage!
 

funks

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just spent the last hour and a half searching for my Corsair AM4 adapter but no dice. Thought I found it but it was just the AM3 one that shipped with the cooler. Raaaage!

Are you talking about the H110i? If so - the AM3 one is the one you are supposed to be using (the clip) - not a screw on type (which they don't make for the H110i). Worked for me on both the Taichi, and the Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3
 

VirtualLarry

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Summary seems to be... keep your board components under 100°C if at all possible. With an 85F+ ambient simulating worst-case conditions chew* OC'd a 1700 to 3.8GHz at ~1.381V on a Asus B350 board. Component temps shot up past 110°C under stress test after just 2-3 minutes.

So realistically you will want to stay at or under 3.8GHz/1.3V on a B350 board with an 8-core CPU. And definitely don't exceed 1.35V for long-term usage.
Well, a Prime95 Small FFT load is about the worst-case around (leading to excessive VRM currents on X299 boards too!), so as long as you can keep that under control, then just about any other load will be as well.

However, one thing that I run on my Ryzen 5 1600 rigs, IS PrimeGrid (much akin to Prime95), 24/7. Which is why, I'm still running at stock speeds on all of my Ryzen rigs. I tried overclocking, they will do 3.6 @ 1.2250V on air, but one of them was hitting 90C Package Temp in HWMonitor, which is way too hot for my tastes (and I think it was valiantly throttling). I've done 3.8 @ 1.3xV, on the water-cooled one, but that was still up in the low 80C range when crunching PrimeGrid, so I lowered the OC back down to stock.

I might OC back up to 3.8, if I'm planning on playing a bunch of PC games, but realistically, it's plenty fast for most games at stock anyways. (With an RX 470 4GB card.)

Edit: Speaking of VRM issues, is that video, why Newegg has tagged some of their B350 boards for sale as "For 65W CPU only!"?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...13157765&cm_re=ryzen_3-_-13-157-765-_-Product
 
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funks

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Not sure why people are still having RAM issues with the 1.0.0.6 AGESA (some say they can't go above 2133 MT/s). So much better than the older ones for me.

I did have to go modify the XMP profile's on my chips and bumped up the voltage's a bit (using Thaiphoon Burner). On the #PV416G300C6K (3000 MT/s - 2x8 GB sticks), I changed the voltage on (XMP Profile 1) from 1.35v -> 1.40v (otherwise I'd get memory training issues at bootup with the AB350-Gaming-3 from time to time as it doesn't have advanced memory training like the Taichi). Additionally, I added PROFILE 2 for 2666 MT/s (which I don't use) just for the hell of it with tighter timings. On the #PVE432G280C6KGY (2800 MT/s - 2x16 GB sticks), I changed the voltage from 1.20v -> 1.35v (XMP Profile 1) - advanced memory training is disabled.

Both chips are dual-rank too, stable at their XMP settings.

My Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 is able to run Patriot Viper-4 (2x8) GB rated at 3000 MT/s (#PV416G300C6K) at 2933 MT/s - Dual Rank



My Asrock Taichi is able to run the Patriot (2x16 GB) rated at 2800 MT/s (#PVE432G280C6KGY) at 2800 MT/s - Dual Rank

 
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IRobot23

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Okay, quick question. Do you guys thiks its worth RMA C6H with little scratch? I am also sending back gpu cause of coil whine.

Usually coil whine doesnt bother me, but sometimes is just disturbing.
After I got ryzen my GPU runs at 99-100% where it starts to make really loud noise(coil whine, fans at 900-1100rpm).

My experience with C6H is great, cannot deny it. I love it. It only makes me sad that Asus wont help me.

What do you think? Sending back c6h worth? I mean would you do the same?
 

DeeJayBump

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RMA a perfectly functioning MoBo for a nearly microscopic cosmetic blemish? 100% No, IMO.

RMA a GPU for coil whine? That would be a personal choice as we all have different hearing and respond to frequency anomalies/aggravations in our own individual ways.
 

krumme

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I've got a 1700 on a Prime X370 Pro cooled by an NH-D15. I seem to be having stability issues above 3.8Ghz, but they seemingly aren't related to temperature. I was able to get to 3.8Ghz at 1.34 vcore, but 3.9 seemed unstable at this voltage. By "unstable" I mean Cinebench crashes consistently after about 10 seconds, I didn't even get to longer stress tests.

I tried raising the voltage further, to 1.35 and then 1.36, but the same thing happened. Temperatures are fine, so it's not an overheating issue. At 3.8Ghz/1.34v I have run stress workloads for nearly 3 hours (encoding in Handbrake while playing Mass Effect Andromeda, so both CPU and GPU were running at 100% usage, on all cores in the CPU's case) and I did not see my CPU go over 72C. When it's crashing while running Cinebench at 3.9Ghz, it's not anywhere close to 70C - usually I'm only getting to about 60-62C before it crashes, so temperature is not the source of the instability.

This is a first world problem for sure as 3.8Ghz for long-term use is perfectly fine, but I'd like to know if I'm doing anything wrong as to why I can't get past there. I am not a complete overclocking noob but most of my previous OCing was done with Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge where it didn't seem to require this much tweaking.

Specs

Ryzen 1700
Asus Prime X370 Pro
NH-D15
16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 (at 2933Mhz, this seems stable but I'm not sure)
GTX 970
Seasonic M12II 520W PSU
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB
3.8 at 1.34v is fine. You might try 1.375 or 1.38 to get to 3.9 but it might not be worth it for the speed anyway.
 

Reinvented

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Latest P3.00 UEFI for Taichi is good - I'm able to XMP my DDR4-3200 CL14 to DDR4-3333 without fiddling with anything besides the multiplier. AIDA64 reports 68ns memory latency @ 3333MHz:

1800X is 3.6, right? Very tame overclock you have there, sir. Do you have any games to test?
 
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