AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[parkerface]

Got my system up and running yesterday. No real hiccups at all with the installation which was nice. The most trouble I had was reorienting the 1700's Wraith Spire fan so it was vertical. Its performance is adequate but nothing spectacular. Got the CPU running 3.7 @ 1.25v for the time being. I'm waiting on my mounting kit to arrive from Noctua before I install my new heatsink. Trident Z kit was content to run at 3200mhz C14 1T out of the gate.

I'm finding this Asus B350-F motherboard to be impressive for the price, although admittedly it's my first Asus board. I've used mostly MSI in the past. Updating the bios was painless. It has plenty of useful options although its layout is a bit convoluted. I have to set up the favorites list I guess. Most of the settings have a reasonable explanation attached--with coherent English, too. *cough MSI* Even the Realtek ALC1220 surprised me. It's not the best sounding in the world but it can adequately drive high impedance headphones like my 300 ohm HD 600's. (I use an external DAC and amp anyhow)

The only drawback to this board that I've seen is the VRM heatsinks are all show and no go. Even with the downdraft of the Wraith cooler the VRM temps come up faster than I'd like using just moderate voltages. I don't think anything above 1.3v vcore would be a good idea without direct airflow or modifying/replacing the crappy stock heatsinks.

All in all I'm happy so far. My 4670k @ 4.6 was snappy in games but the four thread pinch is real if you're not gaming in a vacuum. Excel spreadsheets, Firefox tabs galore, foobar, etc etc etc... I'm preaching to the choir here. My friend is buying my old board, CPU, ram, and cooler for $300 so I am pleased with the final tally.

 

[qWantUS]

Got my system up and running yesterday. No real hiccups at all with the installation which was nice. The most trouble I had was reorienting the 1700's Wraith Spire fan so it was vertical. Its performance is adequate but nothing spectacular. Got the CPU running 3.7 @ 1.25v for the time being. I'm waiting on my mounting kit to arrive from Noctua before I install my new heatsink. Trident Z kit was content to run at 3200mhz C14 1T out of the gate.

I'm finding this Asus B350-F motherboard to be impressive for the price, although admittedly it's my first Asus board. I've used mostly MSI in the past. Updating the bios was painless. It has plenty of useful options although its layout is a bit convoluted. I have to set up the favorites list I guess. Most of the settings have a reasonable explanation attached--with coherent English, too. *cough MSI* Even the Realtek ALC1220 surprised me. It's not the best sounding in the world but it can adequately drive high impedance headphones like my 300 ohm HD 600's. (I use an external DAC and amp anyhow)

The only drawback to this board that I've seen is the VRM heatsinks are all show and no go. Even with the downdraft of the Wraith cooler the VRM temps come up faster than I'd like using just moderate voltages. I don't think anything above 1.3v vcore would be a good idea without direct airflow or modifying/replacing the crappy stock heatsinks.

All in all I'm happy so far. My 4670k @ 4.6 was snappy in games but the four thread pinch is real if you're not gaming in a vacuum. Excel spreadsheets, Firefox tabs galore, foobar, etc etc etc... I'm preaching to the choir here. My friend is buying my old board, CPU, ram, and cooler for $300 so I am pleased with the final tally.

Well done! How are your temps overclocked? I ended up going down to 4.0, temps gone right down, also @1.37v now... that is by far more comfortable, 21c @ idle and load only around 45c

TridentZ RGB 3200cl14 I'm running now @ 14cl timings and 3600mhz, had to go 50 ohm termination and 1.41v, 1T, perfectly safe, ddr temps are really low..high 30`s. With there settings and cpu @4.1ghz scored 1806 on cinebench.. more than happy
Regarding sound, there will be absolutely no difference between audio chips, because dac only uses digital, so your sound card is not doing anything to the sound, only feeding the source to your Dac, in which it's converted to analogue, then fed to tour headphones. I am still using my old asus xonar d2x, still perfect, combined with grado 325i and custom made valve headphone amp.

Anyhow, same as you, I am coming from devil canyon, which is still perfect CPU, there was absolutely no real reason to upgrade, just in the past I always was on amd, last chip I was on was phenom three core beast then I switched to Intel, to i7 870, that was the biggest difference I have ever felt, only to find out how bad amd became...
That was so refreshing to go back to amd and to see so much improvement..

If were you, I would probably go for aio water, At least 240, maybe 280mm, even used one from fleebay.. makes massive difference when overclocking.

I welcome both of us to AMD camp




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[VirtualLarry]

If were you, I would probably go for aio water, At least 240, maybe 280mm, even used one from fleebay.. makes massive difference when overclocking.

I think that this is good advice. I went from the stock Wraith Spire cooler, to 120mm water, and saw nearly a 10-15C improvement. Sadly, my Ryzen 5 1600 CPU, running PrimeGrid on 10 or 11 threads, still gets too hot to overclock to any significance, even on that water cooler. I really should move up to a 240mm water cooler, those should cool much better, and allow for some real overclocking.

 

[qWantUS]

I think that this is good advice. I went from the stock Wraith Spire cooler, to 120mm water, and saw nearly a 10-15C improvement. Sadly, my Ryzen 5 1600 CPU, running PrimeGrid on 10 or 11 threads, still gets too hot to overclock to any significance, even on that water cooler. I really should move up to a 240mm water cooler, those should cool much better, and allow for some real overclocking.

What I found is that there is no such think as watercooling overkill, the bigger the better. I myself am on massive overkill, even after long mass effect or witcher session water is still cool enough, meaning I am not pushing my components, less degradation, gpu still around 40c and cpu close by even though they all are overclocked, even GTX1080fe of full water block is @2114 core...

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[parkerface]

Well done! How are your temps overclocked? I ended up going down to 4.0, temps gone right down, also @1.37v now... that is by far more comfortable, 21c @ idle and load only around 45c

With the stock cooler I'm idling around 40c and have seen 85c under prime95. Please note that this is in a Define R5 case with two 580's mining. For reference, my 4670k with a Hyper 212+ did about 38c idle and 80c prime in the same environment. Once my AM4 mounting kit for the U14S arrives I should see much better temps.

If were you, I would probably go for aio water, At least 240, maybe 280mm, even used one from fleebay.. makes massive difference when overclocking.

See above. I briefly considered an AIO but the low hassle of a tower cooler still appeals to me. Maybe in the future if I choose another case.

I welcome both of us to AMD camp

It's been a while. I've had more AMD than Intel in the last 25 years with a few notable exceptions. ( 233mmx, 300A, e6600) The first was a 486 DX4 100 my dad built me for my freshman year of high school--which we overclocked right away.

 

[Ranulf]

My Ryzen 1700 build will also be in a R5 case. I have a U14S but debating going with an aio (240 or 280) this time. I vastly prefer air over water, less parts to break.

 

[Reinvented]

My Ryzen 1700 build will also be in a R5 case. I have a U14S but debating going with an aio (240 or 280) this time. I vastly prefer air over water, less parts to break.

But think of all the overclocking goodness you can achieve with an AIO CLC!!!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yay! I have some Ryzen 3 CPUs on order. Hopefully, they will get here soon.
Going to build some semi-entry-level desktops, hopefully I'll find some buyers locally.

Edit: Got them. So now I've got two R3 1200 CPUs, two AB350M boards, and two 2x4GB DDR4-2400 kits. Along with some mATX Rosewill cases, some PSUs, some SSDs, and other items. Oh, and some non-gaming GT730 DDR3 cards.

 

[cellarnoise]

Loving my 1700x refurbed from monoprice. If in stock they are cheap. Went with the u14s from the start and it works well in a fractal r5 case. My last amd desktop is still working from time to time as a backup server, though one drive recently failed and I am not about to bother with it. It pays to have back ups of back ups!

My 1700x hits the wall at 3.9, but I am loving the extra cores for audio and video work. Never seems to be slowed down, though I still notice once the old spinners are needed.

This thing works better than my mobile workstation with a 4700mq toshiba laptop. I love the laptop, but when it thermals all work gets the hiccups....

 

[VirtualLarry]

Got one of my Ryzen 3 rigs built. I used the 1200.

I POSTed the rig after building (first time took like 40-50 seconds!), then used internet flash update, to update to UEFI 3.00 on my AB350M, then I overclocked the CPU to 3.800Ghz @ 1.3500V, and overclocked the DDR4-2400 2x4GB kit, to 2667 @ 1.350V. Then I installed Win10, in order to test the OC.

Well, those setting appear to be POST- and Windows-stable. I spent a few hours installing updates, programs, and mostly drivers. (rig has a HDD). Then I tried booting at 3.900Ghz @ 1.3500V, no POST, monitor wouldn't come out of standby. Oh well. 3.800Ghz at reasonable voltage and decent temps, is fine by me. I couldn't get the CPU temps over 60C.

 

[MarkPost]

My Ryzen 1700 build will also be in a R5 case. I have a U14S but debating going with an aio (240 or 280) this time. I vastly prefer air over water, less parts to break.

Keep up the U14S, no AIO will be a clear improvement over it. I have a R5 too, and tested a Silent Loop 280 vs. NH-D15S, zero improvement over Noctua on CPU temps. And on the contrary, out of the box, VRM have much better temps with an air cooling solution.

 

[scannall]

Got one of my Ryzen 3 rigs built. I used the 1200.

I POSTed the rig after building (first time took like 40-50 seconds!), then used internet flash update, to update to UEFI 3.00 on my AB350M, then I overclocked the CPU to 3.800Ghz @ 1.3500V, and overclocked the DDR4-2400 2x4GB kit, to 2667 @ 1.350V. Then I installed Win10, in order to test the OC.

Well, those setting appear to be POST- and Windows-stable. I spent a few hours installing updates, programs, and mostly drivers. (rig has a HDD). Then I tried booting at 3.900Ghz @ 1.3500V, no POST, monitor wouldn't come out of standby. Oh well. 3.800Ghz at reasonable voltage and decent temps, is fine by me. I couldn't get the CPU temps over 60C.

How's the performance on that? A couple people I know want a budget gaming rig. So I was thinking of a R3 with a 1050 for video.

 

[Ranulf]

Keep up the U14S, no AIO will be a clear improvement over it. I have a R5 too, and tested a Silent Loop 280 vs. NH-D15S, zero improvement over Noctua on CPU temps. And on the contrary, out of the box, VRM have much better temps with an air cooling solution.

Thanks for the info. I figured as much, part of my problem with AIO in general, cost isn't worth the perf or extra failure point of water. At this point I'm only thinking about it as the bling option for rgb lighting.

 

[parkerface]

Still waiting on my U14S mounting kit to arrive. I'm dying to see what this chip will do.

Other than that, the new build runs great. The extra cores over an i5 are most welcomed.

 

[Reinvented]

Still waiting on my U14S mounting kit to arrive. I'm dying to see what this chip will do.

Other than that, the new build runs great. The extra cores over an i5 are most welcomed.

It's great to know Ryzen is very welcomed. I just decided to mess with P-state clocking a bit more on my Taichi. Having it downclock to 1.5 on the other cores at a low voltage is super nice. Can keep using the Ryzen balanced power plan and stuff as well. It's a bit warm here in California still, so lower temps is a god send. I'm also too poor to afford a/c now since I built 3 machines this year so far.

 

[MarkPost]

Thanks for the info. I figured as much, part of my problem with AIO in general, cost isn't worth the perf or extra failure point of water. At this point I'm only thinking about it as the bling option for rgb lighting.

You can install any RGB/LED fan in your Noctua cooler. I have installed a Corsair ML Pro 140 LED Red in my D15S (clips adjust fine) clic here

 

[VirtualLarry]

How expensive are the "RGB LED Strips" that plug into those 4-pin (?) RGB strip headers on ASrock AB350 series boards? I built this 1200 rig in a case with a Window. Was thinking of adding some bling.

 

[Pick2]

How expensive are the "RGB LED Strips" that plug into those 4-pin (?) RGB strip headers on ASrock AB350 series boards? I built this 1200 rig in a case with a Window. Was thinking of adding some bling.

From the Egg:
ASRock AB350M AM4 AMD Promontory B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard:
1 x RGB LED Header
* Supports up to 12V/3A, 36W LED Strip

$15 for:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...1&cm_re=RGB_LED_Strips-_-11-984-008-_-Product
Phanteks PH-LEDKT_COMBO RGB LED Strip Combo Set
Full color with M/B RGB Control S/W
Wattage (Dual Strip): MAX:10.08W

Looks like it would work - Bling Bling

 

[Phynaz]

FYI, Silicon Lottery is selling binned Ryzen CPU's for less than Amazon prices. They are apparently dumping inventory and getting out of the Ryzen business.

Demand for Ryzen is pretty low for us compared to other products we offer. I assume those looking to pay premiums for binned chips are more likely to go for Intel's offerings in the first place, which makes sense. We may bring back the 1600X/1800X and just keep those available as low volume products.

Grab 'em while they are still in stock!

 

[Arachnotronic]

FYI, Silicon Lottery is selling binned Ryzen CPU's for less than Amazon prices. They are apparently dumping inventory and getting out of the Ryzen business.



Grab 'em while they are still in stock!

They're staying in the Ryzen TR business, but yeah, looks like they're bailing on regular ol' Ryzen.

 

[IEC]

I can see why Silicon Lottery has a hard time selling those. The voltages required for 4GHz are certainly nothing special at 1.425V.

 

[funks]

Update - I got the replacement R7-1700X with a build date of UA1728SUS from RMA. I installed it, set the BIOS to defaults and ran the benchmark - also CTD'd. Currently testing the CPU under Linux.

Was chatting back and forth with the AOTS devel and they released a hotfix. From their reply, sounds like there may be another ryzen CPU issue which they had to workaround but per AMD isn't related to the the GCC bug. Hopefully AMD will elaborate on what the bug so other devels won't run into the issue.

http://funks.ddns.net:8080/tools/ryzen/RYZEN_BUG_AOTS.jpg

 

[Chicken76]

Guys, for a Ryzen7 1700X would you recommend an X370 Motherboard or a B350 would work the same considering I'm going to run it at stock but with 3000-3200 MHz RAM? I assume Corsair RAM works well with Ryzen, right?

 

[krumme]

Guys, for a Ryzen7 1700X would you recommend an X370 Motherboard or a B350 would work the same considering I'm going to run it at stock but with 3000-3200 MHz RAM? I assume Corsair RAM works well with Ryzen, right?

Then no need for a x370 unless you need the sli or the extra pci lanes. Save the cost.
I would take some memory that do 3200 and certainly is on mb qvl list. Perhaps 2933 with some nice timings. Make sure of that. Use your money here.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Yeah you are actually going to be okay with B350 if you are not going to OC.

I have Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3733 and it works great.