AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[thecoolnessrune]

On my own note, I have a rig with 2 sticks of 16GB G.Skill TridentZ F4-3200C14D-16GTZR RAM (Samsung B-Die, Dual Rank, 14-14-14-34). It's paired with a Ryzen 1700X and ASUS Crosshair VI HERO AC running the latest 6101 BIOS. I've been looking to get the memory up and stable, knowing its difficult to get dual rank (and multiple sticks at that) up at frequency. Currently, I'm at 2666, 12-12-12 timings. Everything seems almost set, but on Prime 95 (with small, variable size FFTs focused on memory usage) I'll still get a rounding error after about 8 hours. So I'm not *quite* stable, but I can't get the rig stable at stock CPU Clocks with the memory running at any higher speed than this with 14-14-14-34 timings, so it seems like I'm hitting a wall. I think 2666 might be as good as I can get, but I need to get the timings better focused. I'm at 1.35V, and for this class of memory, that seems like it should be more than enough considering how its running so far under frequency. Anyone have any suggestions that might improve stability?

 

[.vodka]

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X overclocked to 4.2 GHz on all cores (unless XFR can do better)

Do you mean 2700x?

If that's a 1700x, what voltage does it need to stabilize 4.2GHz on all eight cores? That will probably be well into the 1.5v range, definitely not safe for the CPU... Have you stressed tested it?

 

[SirDinadan]

To clarify, have you tried any other settings other than 3200, such as 2933?

Nope, only out of the box clocks / XMP enabled. Now it is running again (F21), but I haven't stress tested it. Dunno what is going on, MemTest86 reported 0 errors.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Just a quick question and may help with stability for ram. What is the best setting for SoC for Ryzen CPU's when OC'd.

 

[formulav8]

1.1v would be good.

 

[davide445]

Just ordered my new Ryzen 2600X PC components, worried about mobo and ram compatibility.

Mobo is ASUS Prime B450-Plus ATX

RAM is Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4 3200MHz 32GB (2X16GB) C16 - CMR32GX4M2C3200C16

I choose this since CVL list are limited, this kit is cheap and I've seen other builds using Corsair Vengeance ram with this mobo.

Interested to know what can be the safest mode to install and configure the ram and push it to expected 3200Mhz speed. This is my first ever build.

 

[DrMrLordX]

DDR4-3200 CAS/CL16 is probably Hynix. You can confirm with Thaiphoon Burner.

It might work "out of the box" at the rated speeds, though you may have to pump in a little extra voltage to achieve that. Since you are on B450 + Ryzen2 I would expect compatibility to be a little better.

 

[davide445]

Thanks @DrMrLordX , I suppose can start with standard speed and next enable OC using XMP.
Did I need to be in UEFI mode to do so or also Legacy (BIOS) mode will work? Asking since I will migrate my boot disk from an older PC that's using Legacy mode.
Also if isn't working (BSOD I suppose) there is a way to roll back so to still being able to boot? Not an expert in hw/sw configuration.

 

[IEC]

On my own note, I have a rig with 2 sticks of 16GB G.Skill TridentZ F4-3200C14D-16GTZR RAM (Samsung B-Die, Dual Rank, 14-14-14-34). It's paired with a Ryzen 1700X and ASUS Crosshair VI HERO AC running the latest 6101 BIOS. I've been looking to get the memory up and stable, knowing its difficult to get dual rank (and multiple sticks at that) up at frequency. Currently, I'm at 2666, 12-12-12 timings. Everything seems almost set, but on Prime 95 (with small, variable size FFTs focused on memory usage) I'll still get a rounding error after about 8 hours. So I'm not *quite* stable, but I can't get the rig stable at stock CPU Clocks with the memory running at any higher speed than this with 14-14-14-34 timings, so it seems like I'm hitting a wall. I think 2666 might be as good as I can get, but I need to get the timings better focused. I'm at 1.35V, and for this class of memory, that seems like it should be more than enough considering how its running so far under frequency. Anyone have any suggestions that might improve stability?

Try this preset and see if it works for you.

Configuration guide flowchart:


OCN Thread:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-...tor-ryzena-1-4-0-1-overclocking-dram-am4.html

 

[DrMrLordX]

Did I need to be in UEFI mode to do so or also Legacy (BIOS) mode will work? Asking since I will migrate my boot disk from an older PC that's using Legacy mode.

Legacy mode still uses the UEFI (there is no BIOS). It's just to maintain compatibility with mbr drives (instead of gpt). You will have full control of your memory settings regardless of boot mode.

 

[EXCellR8]

I hoping we get some info on the 3000 series in Q1 2019... getting impatient for HEDT @ 7nm

 

[JimKiler]

I hoping we get some info on the 3000 series in Q1 2019... getting impatient for HEDT @ 7nm

If that leak is right and we get 12 core/24 threads for $300 it seems like HEDT is not needed for the majority of consumers.

 

[EXCellR8]

Well that's kind of what I was thinking... unless AMD really goes nuts with the next 'ripper chips and offers ridiculous core counts.

 

[Christopher Bohling]

Well that's kind of what I was thinking... unless AMD really goes nuts with the next 'ripper chips and offers ridiculous core counts.

Yeah, but the 2990WX is already hitting a point at which software/OS limitations are leading to diminishing returns. Outside of a few applications I am not sure that we really need to push past 32c/64t for HEDT at the moment. Sure, in a few years yeah, but right now it would probably be smarter for AMD to put their effort into improving the memory situation on Zen.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Yeah, but the 2990WX is already hitting a point at which software/OS limitations are leading to diminishing returns. Outside of a few applications I am not sure that we really need to push past 32c/64t for HEDT at the moment. Sure, in a few years yeah, but right now it would probably be smarter for AMD to put their effort into improving the memory situation on Zen.

While I’m no expert on the subject I do have to agree finding good memory for a Ryzen is surprisingly difficult and more expensive (in relation to other memory, not a broad market summary) than intels offerings. Especially if you want more than 16GB.

 

[Markfw]

While I’m no expert on the subject I do have to agree finding good memory for a Ryzen is surprisingly difficult and more expensive (in relation to other memory, not a broad market summary) than intels offerings. Especially if you want more than 16GB.

It may not be cheap, but all my threadrippers use 2 sets of these https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232306
But running at 3466 cl14

 

[Christopher Bohling]

It may not be cheap, but all my threadrippers use 2 sets of these https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232306
But running at 3466 cl14

I mean, $460 in memory + $880 for 2950X = $1340 vs $1580 for the 7960X for the CPU alone, so

 

[DrMrLordX]

If that leak is right and we get 12 core/24 threads for $300 it seems like HEDT is not needed for the majority of consumers.

HEDT is already not needed for the majority of consumers. People with extreme I/O requirements will still want it.

Yeah, but the 2990WX is already hitting a point at which software/OS limitations are leading to diminishing returns. Outside of a few applications I am not sure that we really need to push past 32c/64t for HEDT at the moment. Sure, in a few years yeah, but right now it would probably be smarter for AMD to put their effort into improving the memory situation on Zen.

What they need is a 32c/64t HEDT product that actually has full access to all memory banks from all cores, unlike the 2990WX. The 2990WX has some . . . design compromises, to put it mildly. Zen2 TR needs to fix that.

 

[EXCellR8]

Honestly... anything over 4 cores isn't that popular among the average consumer. Those who bought the 2990WX are the 1% enthusiasts, content creators, engineers and/or distributed computing advocates. There's certainly some gamers with deep pockets in there, but niche products advertise to niche people.

 

[ub4ty]

What they need is a 32c/64t HEDT product that actually has full access to all memory banks from all cores, unlike the 2990WX. The 2990WX has some . . . design compromises, to put it mildly. Zen2 TR needs to fix that.

This is what I'm most counting on.. A rome w/ 4 less chiplets (32 cores w/ equal access to I/O). This would be a great product if they could swing it.. A nice full-featured upgrade that doesn't threaten their EPYC line that much and properly establishes threadripper.

> 7nm
> Higher clocks
> Better power efficiency
> PCIE 4.0
> All cores w/ equal access to I/O
That would get my attention and others quickly and solidify me on threadripper.

ATM, I'm eyeing eypc because 16 core is the max efficient/sensible core count on threadripper.. Unequal access to I/O is a deal killer.
This changes if they deliver a solid 32 core

 

[Spike]

Just getting my ryzen 2700x setup (main in the signature). Because I did squat for research ahead ahead of time, I went ahead and bought two of these kits ballistix sport lt to run with a 4x8gb. After installation I enabled XMP and it seems to be running at the rated specs. I have done 0 stability tests yet, just installed windows and some patches and thats it. I'll be running memtest on this over the weekend when I'm back home. Anything else I need to worry about or should test? I plan to just run XFR and precision-boost (I can do that, right) and not do any manual OCing. We will see if the CM AIO watercooler can handle the temps, I'm not a big fan of the noise the dual 120mms seem to generate with the system at idle....

Looking forward to some gaming

 

[DrMrLordX]

Yeah if you just run PBO2 you should be fine. It'll boost itself pretty well and keep heat down. If you are getting DDR4-3000 speeds in a 4x8GB configuration then you are actually doing fairly well (most such configurations top out at DDR4-3200, and getting there is not so easy).

 

[walk2k]

new build here, thinking of OC'ing

Ryzen 5 2600 / 16Gb Corsair 3200 C16/ Gigabyte X470 "Aorus Ultra Gaming"

Got everything running @stock speeds. Have tried a few OC. Seems to run fine at 3900 (all core, of course) and 1.2 - 1.25 volts.
It will run and pass the Ryzen Master "test" at 4200 at 1.4 volts. But it crashes doing OCCT "large" test. Plus temps are insane, I would never run it this high on the stock cooler of course. Even at 3900/1.2v temps will hit 85C pretty quick during OCCT/Linpack/etc.

The ram, well that runs fine at 3400 at rated timings (16-18-18-36). I tried to lower that to 3400 14-16-16-36 and it woudn't POST..

Anyway my question(s) is, what are good settings on this motherboard (GByte X470 Auros Ultra gaming). The BIOS seems pretty basic, just one multiplier and voltage setting. I'm used to my old Intel board(s) being able to set 2/4/6+ thread multipliers and voltage offsets. This basic board doesn't offer this? Or am I not looking in the right area. The manual is, in a word, brief on the subject of overclocking/volting..

I have a Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo and I've ordered the AM4 kit for it. Once I have that running I'm planning to try 4.1 or 4.2 overclock. I'd like to keep volts under 1.4, pref. 1.35 or lower, but if I have to use 1.4 to get 4.2 rock stable, as long as temps are ok I'll probably do it.

What do you guys think?

 

[JRzoid]

Well if I get a New 2600x. Will see if it will Fire up again on the MSI.

 

[DrMrLordX]

new build here, thinking of OC'ing

Ryzen 5 2600 / 16Gb Corsair 3200 C16/ Gigabyte X470 "Aorus Ultra Gaming"

Got everything running @stock speeds. Have tried a few OC. Seems to run fine at 3900 (all core, of course) and 1.2 - 1.25 volts.
It will run and pass the Ryzen Master "test" at 4200 at 1.4 volts. But it crashes doing OCCT "large" test. Plus temps are insane, I would never run it this high on the stock cooler of course. Even at 3900/1.2v temps will hit 85C pretty quick during OCCT/Linpack/etc.

The ram, well that runs fine at 3400 at rated timings (16-18-18-36). I tried to lower that to 3400 14-16-16-36 and it woudn't POST..

Anyway my question(s) is, what are good settings on this motherboard (GByte X470 Auros Ultra gaming). The BIOS seems pretty basic, just one multiplier and voltage setting. I'm used to my old Intel board(s) being able to set 2/4/6+ thread multipliers and voltage offsets. This basic board doesn't offer this? Or am I not looking in the right area. The manual is, in a word, brief on the subject of overclocking/volting..

I have a Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo and I've ordered the AM4 kit for it. Once I have that running I'm planning to try 4.1 or 4.2 overclock. I'd like to keep volts under 1.4, pref. 1.35 or lower, but if I have to use 1.4 to get 4.2 rock stable, as long as temps are ok I'll probably do it.

What do you guys think?

I'm not familiar with that board, but if you can give us some UEFI screenshots then maybe we can make recommendations.

If you are looking for high RAM speeds with tight(er) timings, you need to up SoC voltage and vDIMM. 3466 CAS14 is possible on my 1800x using DDR4-3733 CAS17 RAM, but I have to use 1.42v vDIMM and 1.1v vSoC (actually 1.175 vSoC, which is almost bleeding-edge).

Sounds like you need a better cooler though. Those temps are stupid high for 3.9 GHz on a 2600x.