AMD Ryzen SKU and Price Information/Speculation.

[Doom2pro]

Edit: Good breakdown at Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5v4hqt/overview_ryzen_cpu_am4_mainboard_lineup_updated/

Big leaks so far from multiple sources... So far only 8c/16t models.

VideoCardz.com

Lambda-tek.com

https://www.lambda-tek.com/AMD-YD180XBCAEWOF~sh/B6920444
https://www.lambda-tek.com/AMD-YD170XBCAEWOF~sh/B6920445
https://www.lambda-tek.com/AMD-YD1700BBAEBOX~sh/B6920446

kikatek.com

http://www.kikatek.com/P893987/YD1700BBAEBOX-AMD-RYZEN-7-1700-3-7GHZ-8-CORE-65W?cPath=438
http://www.kikatek.com/P893986/YD170XBCAEWOF-AMD-RYZEN-7-1700X-3-8GHZ-8-CORE-SKT
http://www.kikatek.com/P893985/YD180XBCAEWOF-AMD-RYZEN-7-1800X-4-0GHZ-8-CORE-SKT

Shopblt

B4U1130YD1700BBAEBOXDT RYZEN 7 1700 65W AM4 PIB SR2​

$316.59

B4U1131YD170XBCAEWOFDT RYZEN 7 1700X 95W AM4 WOF​

$381.72

B4U1132YD180XBCAEWOFDT RYZEN 7 1800X 95W AM4 WOF​

$490.29

It Appears that "X" models are Without Heatsink Fan, so bring your own cooler and the listed clocks are Boost.

From Reddit (AMD):

Ryzen 7 1800X is $490 (4.0Ghz Boost)
SKU number:YD180XBCAEWOF
UPC number:730143308366
No Cooler.
95W TDP

Ryzen 7 1700X is $380 (3.8Ghz Boost)
SKU number:YD170XBCAEWOF
UPC number:730143308342
No Cooler.
95W TDP

Ryzen 7 1700 is $317 (3.7Ghz Boost)
SKU number:YD1700BBAEBOX
UPC number:730143308328
Bundled with Wraith Cooler.
65W TDP

More details about 65W 8c/16t SKU: Source

• Product ID : YD1700BBAEBOX
• Processor: Summit Ridge Octa-Core (8 Cores /16 Threads )
• Frequency: 3.7 GHz
• TDP ( Thermal Design Power ) : 65 Watt
• Socket: AM4
• Package: Boxed With Wraith Cooler
• Memory Support: Dual-Channel DDR4-2400
• List Price (Bulk) : $316 ( Expected retail price ~$320 )

Product

Ryzen 7 1700
Cores 8
Threads 16
Guaranteed Frequency 3.7Ghz
Boost Frequency Unlimited ( Cooling Dependent )
Frequency Multiplier Adjustment ( for overclocking purposes ) Unlocked
Power 65W
Manufacturing Process 14nm
L1-Cache 8x 64 KiB
L2-Cache 8x 512 KiB
L3-Cache 16 MiB
Features & Instruction Set Extensions MMX(+) • SSE • SSE2 • SSE3 • SSSE3 (Intel SSE4) • SSE4a (AMD SSE4) • SSSE4.1 • SSSE4.2 • AES • ABM • AVX • FMA3 • FMA4 • F16C • XOP • SMT (Simultaneous Multithreading) • AMD-V (Compute Virtualization) • VT-d/Vi (I/O MMU Virtualization) • x86-64/EM64T • NX-Bit/XD-Bit • EVP • TBT 3.0 (Turbo Core 3.0)
Power Efficiency FeaturesCool'n'Quiet • CoolCore Technology • Enhanced Halt State (C1E) • Deep Power Down (C6)

 

[sandorski]

Very interesting. Are there differences between the 00 and 00X processors other than Air/Water(I assume that's what those codes stand for) cooling? I see the Wattage difference which makes me think they are different in some way.

 

[Vesku]

If they are all unlocked shouldn't the 1700 (8 core 65W) be better for $20-50 aftermarket air cooling than the 1700x (8 core 95w).

 

[ElFenix]

For AMD's sake I'm hoping those prices are accurate and justifiable

 

[Doom2pro]

If they are all unlocked shouldn't the 1700 (8 core 65W) be better for $20-50 aftermarket air cooling than the 1700x (8 core 95w).

I think they are targeting the X SKUs for Enthusiasts considering they are likely to use a third party cooling solution anyway even though the Wraith cooler is pretty badass.

 

[.vodka]

I've found this interesting post at r/AMD over the pricing on one of these pages.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5svsva/amd_ryzen_cpus_for_preorder_prices_may_be_legit/

Post

Background: I am formerly a purchaser for a computer retailer.

This site is hooked directly into the database for one of the largest "channel" suppliers in the world - Ingram Micro.

Channel suppliers like IM are the means for most vendors to get their products to retailers and system builders. I'm saying places like cyberpowerpc, and even retailers (to an extent Newegg), buy their parts from places like IM.

**These are 100% legit SKUs,** however pricing is not quite realistic. These are flat percentage markups of Ingram Micro's selling price.

Edit: my commentary of pricing got most questions. I'll explain here.

> Meaning to say if we add another 30% markup for retailers,

No, not even close to that much. Mom and pop brick and mortar, probably, that's what they have to do to keep the lights on. But the retailers most of us deal with these days - Newegg, Best Buy, etc - they buy these parts for slightly less than what we're seeing here, and then barely put tiny margins on top of that - and it is not uncommon for them to actually *sell these parts at cost or a loss*, and get their revenue from rebates from the factory. /u/carbonat38 was exactly right when he said "I doubt that margins in the ultra competitive online world are that high anymore, in particular with little actual operating cost."

> How can you tell that the markup is a flat percentage?

Just from my experience when googling an Ingram Micro SKU back in the day to get to a product real fast (channel vendors' websites are, as a rule, **shitty,** and so you develop your own methods to get to the product). I'd occasionally find a BLT url or a similar drop shipper. As a rule, BLT would have things in a certain line all the same lazy markup over the Ingram price. If Ingram listed a bunch of new logitech keyboards in April 2015, they'd all be 5% higher on BLT. If Ingram listed a bunch of new CPUs in Feb 2017, they'd all be, say, 1% higher on BLT. Making up those numbers, but that's the pattern.

**Ultimately, the pattern from BLT that I am familiar with** means that the 1800X will be $449.99 - 499.99 MSRP, barring any sort of price inflation if we are under supplied.

Get on the train.

 

[IEC]

$470ish flagship? Day 1 purchase for me, then.

 

[Vaporizer]

Seems like it will be hard to get a system in the early days, because i think they will be sold out quite instantly.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Whoohoo! Prices! I was guessing around $500 for the flagship CPU, guess I wasn't far off. Time to start saving! ZEN, BABY!

Edit: That said, I don't really want some hideously loud and hot CPU and fan / heatsink assembly, so I might just go for a slightly cheaper locked version, if they are really 65W. Although I do love to overclock. (Getting used to stock clocks, for my Kaby Lake CPUs, though.)

 

[Atari2600]

Edit: That said, I don't really want some hideously loud and hot CPU and fan / heatsink assembly,

Depending on how XFR works in reviews, this could be my first foray into water cooling for my own PC.

 

[LTC8K6]

So I would guess that there is no chance of getting the 65W TDP unlocked chip anywhere near the frequencies of the other two.

And, if you can get the middle chip to overclock decently, it seems like it would be the one to buy.

But we don't know base and we don't know if the turbo number is all core or single core.

 

[jpiniero]

But we don't know base and we don't know if the turbo number is all core or single core.

It's full core. Whether it can hold it for any kind of time without overclocking is another thing.

I guess I should assume that AMD is guaranteeing that all cores can hit the clock speed specified.

 

[Atari2600]

So I would guess that there is no chance of getting the 65W TDP unlocked chip anywhere near the frequencies of the other two.

Ah, wouldn't say that.

Traditionally, a lower leakage chip wouldn't hit the same clock as a leaky one, but if XFR really means your more TDP limited than stability, then who knows.

Manually overclock and I'd tend to agree with you, albeit not sure on how much "anywhere near" constitutes!

 

[DrMrLordX]

Board is being wonky so I can't properly multiquote. Grr.

Anyway, ~$500 for the top-end SKU . . . called it! So did a lot of other folks.

Whether or not the lower-end SKUs will OC as well is strictly a matter of binning as always. If you want to roll the dice, try one of the lower-end SKUs and be prepared to bring the voltage. I'm going after the 1800X.

 

[LTC8K6]

Ah, wouldn't say that.

Traditionally, a lower leakage chip wouldn't hit the same clock as a leaky one, but if XFR really means your more TDP limited than stability, then who knows.

Manually overclock and I'd tend to agree with you, albeit not sure on how much "anywhere near" constitutes!

Well, no XFR on the 65W chip, so it's manual overclocking.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Holy crap if true...

Now I just need confirmation if Ryzen motherboards will support ECC ram or not.

 

[R0H1T]

Well, no XFR on the 65W chip, so it's manual overclocking.

Damn back to the stone ages

 

[dacostafilipe]

So I was wrong and it seems to be cheaper. Not that I'm sad about it

Let's hope my hardware provide will have a 1800X for me ...

 

[PPB]

Damn back to the stone ages

More like Multiplier OC. Stone age was FSB and it was painful on troubleshooting stability issues on both memory and core at the same time.

 

[bjt2]

To have high margin on XFR clock, AMD should make sure that Zen will be limited only by the TDP and not hit a wall at a lower frequency. To do this the only solution is low FO4. And 15% less switching capacitance at normalized process is one step toward this goal.

 

[Yakk]

Pricing looks really good, like what in seeing. Now waiting for CPU & water block.

 

[Face2Face]

If those prices are from Ingram Micro (Huge distributor) Here is their INTEL pricing by comparison. Pricing for everyday re-sellers. Newegg and Amazon, do not apply.

 

[raghu78]

I think AMD's XFR could allow Ryzen CPUs to clock beyond 4 Ghz for single/dual thread workloads. AMD did not demo turbo as XFR might really be a major advantage against Intel CPUs. The Intel HEDT lineup is going to be toast if XFR allows 4.2 - 4.4 Ghz clocks. Heck at those clocks Ryzen is going to be able to keep very close to 7700k/7600k even for single thread performance.

 

[Khato]

And once more, pricing is the best early indicator of performance. Assuming that AMD is indeed pricing their top end SKU comparably to an i7-6850k, then that's roughly the level of performance that should be expected from it. (Probably a bit better in multi-threaded workloads, which is balanced by being worse in single-threaded.) Which, as usual, doesn't bode well for the consumer markets where usage scenarios beyond 4 cores are few and far between.

 

[Dresdenboy]

And once more, pricing is the best early indicator of performance. Assuming that AMD is indeed pricing their top end SKU comparably to an i7-6850k, then that's roughly the level of performance that should be expected from it.

So far the consensus was, that AMD has to price 30+% below at the same performance levels. They also asked for suggestions/wishes. And many even expected 6900K perf. for KBL prices, just because gaming performance won't be higher than of the latter. When did this -30% expectation change to 0%?