AMD Ryzen SKU and Price Information/Speculation.

[monkeydelmagico]

I really wish AMD luck with this launch. Considering their tiny position in the desktop market this feels like a make or break situation. Without some form of competition we will continue to get whatever Intel feels like providing and like it.

 

[Edgemeal]

FX-62 (For that matter, everything 4600+ at AM2's launch)

Some s939 were even more expensive, a s939 X2-4200+ released in May 2005 was $537. At launch newegg was selling those for $549, by October AMD cut prices, newegg dropped it to $400, that's when I bit, it was the most I ever spent on a CPU. My next CPU upgrade was the X2-550 for $99, unlocked to a X4-965 (which was around $245!) on a $69 MSI board, its still going today, tho rarely used.

IIRC, Top end s939 in may 2005 was,..
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ 2.4GHz (s939), May 31, 2005, $1001.

 

[CatMerc]

So basically, when I was still in elementary school learning how to multiply.

 

[Face2Face]

I got a X2-4400+ around launch was the most expensive CPU purchase till my 3930k. Still probably my favorite CPU purchase ever. We needed that much more back then then we need a 8c16t CPU now. Those were the days.

I was too cheap or dumb to buy a dual-core at the time... I only cared about single core performance. Bit me in butt not long after. I remember selling the 4000+ to buy A X2 4200+... My 2005 Christmas build.

 

[Edgemeal]

I bought a stupid floppy drive late 2005, thought I needed one, never even used it LOL! Though I got Nero Ultra for free with AMD X2-4200+ purchase.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Ha! That Raptor seems almost as obsolete as the NEC floppy.

At least it wasn't like . . . a Mitsumi or something. Like that mattered. Blast from the past man.

 

[lopri]

You guys are forgetting Socket 939 Opterons. Some of them served as cheaper alternatives to those $400+ Athlon 64's and were very popular.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/1847

 

[Enigma-]

Over at sweclockers forum people think zen+ is 7nm, i told them that zen+ is still 14nm but they say that 7nm is in 2018. I told them 2020. I get downvoted but i am pretty sure i am the correct one here.

Who at SweClockers has ever stated that Zen+ is specifically 7nm?

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Ryzen CPUs back on newegg

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...Promo-_-ProductLaunch-AMD-Ryzen-CPUs-_-022217

 

[jpiniero]

Kind of surprised the auto-gouger hasn't kicked in yet, heh.

 

[imported_jjj]

7nm GloFo is 2018 but that's doesn't mean that anyone will ship a high volume product in 2018. AMD going 7nm in (early) 2019 is the reasonable expectation at this point.

 

[Magic Hate Ball]

I was too cheap or dumb to buy a dual-core at the time... I only cared about single core performance. Bit me in butt not long after. I remember selling the 4000+ to buy A X2 4200+... My 2005 Christmas build.

Yeah I remember spending about $400 on the chip alone for my Athlon64 3200+ socket 754 the month it released.

 

[nurturedhate]

All of this makes me want to build something. Alas, I have absolutely zero need to. So sad.

 

[EXCellR8]

$500 for the 1800X, yea no.

 

[piesquared]

7nm GloFo is 2018 but that's doesn't mean that anyone will ship a high volume product in 2018. AMD going 7nm in (early) 2019 is the reasonable expectation at this point.

Navi is likely first for 7nm, much like Polaris was first for 14nm.

 

[Arachnotronic]

$500 for the 1800X, yea no.

It's actually quite a good deal...

 

[imported_jjj]

Navi is likely first for 7nm, much like Polaris was first for 14nm.

Rumors aside, Vega could use TSMC 7nm in 2018 and not wait for GloFo.They don't need such high volumes, in terms of wafer starts, if they go 7nm only with part of the lineup first and TSMC is great at ramping volumes.
GloFo starts volume production, in theory, in first half of 2018 but they might have up to 3 months cycle time on 7nm and it's hard to get to yield quickly so AMD shipping anything in 2018 on 7nm GloFo is highly unlikely. And that's if there are no delays ofc.

Anyway, we are a bit off topic so , anyone hoping the cheapest quad core is 99$ not 129$?

 

[formulav8]

FX-62 (For that matter, everything 4600+ at AM2's launch)


Athlon 64 FX-62 2.8 GHz 2 x 1024 KB 125 W $1,031
Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6 GHz 2 x 512 KB 89 W $696
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ 2.4 GHz 2 x 1024 KB 89 W $645
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2.4 GHz 2 x 512 KB 89 W $558
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ 2.2 GHz 2 x 1024 KB 89 W $470
Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2 GHz 2 x 512 KB 89 W $365
Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2.0 GHz 2 x 512 KB 89 W $303

I still have my zipzoomfly.com receipt somewhere from when I bought my 3800+ x2 s939 cpu many years ago. IIRC it was $328 shipped.

Edit: I also still have the Asrock mobo and probably the cpu somewhere I think. The mobo doesn't work anymore I don't believe.

 

[.vodka]

$500 for the 1800X, yea no.

What's wrong? It outperforms the $1050 6900k

Get the 1700 and overclock it. $329.

 

[piesquared]

Rumors aside, Vega could use TSMC 7nm in 2018 and not wait for GloFo.They don't need such high volumes, in terms of wafer starts, if they go 7nm only with part of the lineup first and TSMC is great at ramping volumes.
GloFo starts volume production, in theory, in first half of 2018 but they might have up to 3 months cycle time on 7nm and it's hard to get to yield quickly so AMD shipping anything in 2018 on 7nm GloFo is highly unlikely. And that's if there are no delays ofc.

It's possible that they use TSMC but less likely than GF IMO. First there is the WSA with Globalfoundries, and there is also the idea that fabbing Navi at GF on 7nm would be a pilot for CPU production. It doesn't look like there will be a need to transition from 14nm as quickly as possible given that Ryzen seems to indicate that they have surpassed intel in efficiency. I thing they would want to monetize their 14nm investments, and with what we've seen so far with Ryzen, they have the opportunity to do that.

 

[imported_jjj]

It's possible that they use TSMC but less likely than GF IMO. First there is the WSA with Globalfoundries, and there is also the idea that fabbing Navi at GF on 7nm would be a pilot for CPU production. It doesn't look like there will be a need to transition from 14nm as quickly as possible given that Ryzen seems to indicate that they have surpassed intel in efficiency. I thing they would want to monetize their 14nm investments, and with what we've seen so far with Ryzen, they have the opportunity to do that.

TSMC will have 7nm a few quarters before GloFo and in GPU , the competition is Nvidia. A 3rd cycle on 14nm next year might not be ideal but will depend on costs and what Nvidia plans to do.

 

[EXCellR8]

I might do the 1700X at $400 but to me that's pushing it for a single CPU that's only being compared to a last generation Intel chip.

Regardless, I'm still excited to try one if I can afford to finish the build. Itching for some board reviews.

 

[Topweasel]

I might do the 1700X at $400 but to me that's pushing it for a single CPU that's only being compared to a last generation Intel chip.

Regardless, I'm still excited to try one if I can afford to finish the build. Itching for some board reviews.

Well the idea behind it and most people's enthusiasm is that it's so close to the edge of a truly competitive core and at every price break it has more cores. The non HEDT intel i7 has to compete with a 8c16t CPU and several 6c12t CPU's. The i5 has to compete with tons of 6c12t options and at worst a 4c8t option. The i3 becomes an afterthought surrounded by 4c4t CPU's. Even if in a few games and tasks KB is ahead (as long as that lead isn't huge), it would be silly to ignore Ryzen as a possible alternative that will allow better multitasking and have better longevity. It's basically what Bulldozer promised us 8 years ago before it headplanted itself on the pavement. By comparing it to Broadwell even as a gen old it's still a fantastic marker of where performance is at.

I think people expected it in the IB territory. That it would be a decent option if it was in the HW territory. But trading blows with BW really tells us a lot.

 

[richierich1212]

The i3 becomes an afterthought surrounded by 4c4t CPU's. Even if in a few games and tasks KB is ahead (as long as that lead isn't huge), it would be silly to ignore Ryzen as a possible alternative that will allow better multitasking and have better longevity.

This is probably why Intel is now including HT on their pentium line. The potential to steal some low end sales before AMD releases their 4C/4T Ryzen chips is there.

 

[.vodka]

This is probably why Intel is now including HT on their pentium line. The potential to steal some low end sales before AMD releases their 4C/4T Ryzen chips is there.

AMD won't have an answer for the $65 G4560 for at least half a year. It's a great little CPU for 90% of use cases out there.

It was a great move releasing that early. The rest of their lineup... well.. doesn't look so good. Not even close. Their saving grace is that AMD isn't releasing Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 3 along Ryzen 7 this March... that scenario would've been a bloodbath.

Instead those two lines come later, and the APUs mid year to actually counter Intel's iGPU lines... one step at a time I guess, this is a busy year for AMD and ATI