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lolfail9001

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Haswell @ 3.20Ghz beats Skylake @ 4.00Ghz in Single Thread performance. Sounds legit.
Does not detect overclock, duh. Presumable it is 4.4Ghz.

Btw, Ryzen looks just fine here, but hey, for some if it is not faster than Skylake, it is literally new bulldozer.
I also literally pointed that out a few minutes ago in this thread. That Engineering Sample photo only shows up recently, and is only referenced in posts about Ryzen pricing yet none of the SKUs start with ZD.
It is reported qual sample SKU, man, i have literally linked it to ya.
 
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What's your point, in that benchmark apparently not even an i7 6700K @ 4Ghz can beat it either. This whole benchmark is FUD and entirely suspect.

The 6700K at least has better IPC. Ryzen IPC is lower than 4th Gen i3. And passmark is not FUD. I've been watching the baselines every day. There are over 50 new baselines coming in every day that outscore Ryzen.

Btw, a 5820K is only 1% slower than Ryzen in multithreaded.
 

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Someone is trolling Intel fans here... I have a funny feeling

Every single time a dubious Zen benchmark pops up that portrays it in a negative light, all the hard core intel fans pop up and start talking about it.

Can't wait for the launch & reviews
 
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lolfail9001

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The 6700K at least has better IPC.
6700k has worse IPC than your G3258 in your own link. LITERALLY BULLDOZER.
And post the source, man.
Every single time a dubious Zen benchmark pops up that portrays it in a negative light, all the hard core intel fans pop up and start talking about it.
You call that negative light? As someone else has laid out in math, it is the very same performance we have been expecting since The Stilt kickstarted the 1Ghz hypothesis.
 

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You call that negative light? As someone else has laid out in math, it is the very same performance we have been expecting since The Stilt kickstarted the 1Ghz hypothesis.

I was referring to it having a lower score than an i3.
 

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Exactly, it's out there, wouldn't be the last time a faked benchmark used wildly spread ID.
Well, only thing you need to do now is to find another AMD ES that was diffused in the US and made in China. Because obviously they would not fake that, or would they?
I was referring to it having a lower score than an i3.
My i5-6400 has lower score than this i3, i bet you. Does not make it a slower CPU
 

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The 6700K at least has better IPC. Ryzen IPC is lower than 4th Gen i3. And passmark is not FUD. I've been watching the baselines every day. There are over 50 new baselines coming in every day that outscore Ryzen.

Btw, a 5820K is only 1% slower than Ryzen in multithreaded.
Which uses the same high-performance, same IPC Haswell cores as an i7.
 

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The 6700K at least has better IPC. Ryzen IPC is lower than 4th Gen i3. And passmark is not FUD. I've been watching the baselines every day. There are over 50 new baselines coming in every day that outscore Ryzen.

Btw, a 5820K is only 1% slower than Ryzen in multithreaded.

I didn't say Passmark is FUD, I use Passmark... just the benchmark posted is suspicious.
 

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Well, only thing you need to do now is to find another AMD ES that was diffused in the US and made in China. Because obviously they would not fake that, or would they?

My i5-6400 has lower score than this i3, i bet you. Does not make it a slower CPU

I know that, but the Intel fans that want Zen to fail just jump at the opportunity to post it, very revealing if you know what I mean.

If this were SA, you know who would be posting it.
 
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I didn't say Passmark is FUD, I use Passmark... just the benchmark posted is suspicious.

Yup.

Still not seeing the source posted. That should've been the very first thing to go along that picture in that post.

Besides, if that single thread score were true, 3.8GHz Ryzen is about 400 points behind 4.2GHz 6700k. Not bad at all. Remember we have Zen 2, 3 and 4 in the coming years, and Intel won't be getting an upgrade to the Skylake core for a long while.


I'm not seeing how this is Bulldozer all over again... Just look at the pitiful score of the 8370 there. Quite the opposite actually.
 

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Well, only thing you need to do now is to find another AMD ES that was diffused in the US and made in China. Because obviously they would not fake that, or would they?

Who said anything about faking the hardware... I was talking about taking the ID string that's going around and faking a benchmark with it.

It could be real, like you said it depends on the benchmark, doesn't mean a slower CPU... It could also be fake, but I love all the people coming out of the woodwork suddenly
 

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The 6700K at least has better IPC. Ryzen IPC is lower than 4th Gen i3. And passmark is not FUD. I've been watching the baselines every day. There are over 50 new baselines coming in every day that outscore Ryzen.

Btw, a 5820K is only 1% slower than Ryzen in multithreaded.

Do you get some real MT number on Ryzen passmark? I would like to see it.

[Edit]

NVM, it's 15084. I need more caffeine.
 
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lolfail9001

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Who said anything about faking the hardware... I was talking about taking the ID string that's going around and faking a benchmark with it.
You have suggested the picture is fake as well [i.e. a Bristol Ridge ES].
but I love all the people coming out of the woodwork suddenly
First thing we have had on it's performance in weeks? And it is precisely what we have come to expect already.
 

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You have suggested the picture is fake as well [i.e. a Bristol Ridge ES].

Only because I thought the ZD's were Bristol Ridge only, I guess (if the sources are correct) these are also being used for Ryzen validation parts.

First thing we have had on it's performance in weeks? And it is precisely what we have come to expect already.

Well I'm waiting for review benchmarks, the leaks are not cutting it for me anymore

Edit: I'm agreeing with you here entirely, this doesn't look bad at all (for Zen), now that I look at it, it's just a cherry picked benchmark at best.
 
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The 6700K at least has better IPC. Ryzen IPC is lower than 4th Gen i3. And passmark is not FUD. I've been watching the baselines every day. There are over 50 new baselines coming in every day that outscore Ryzen.

Btw, a 5820K is only 1% slower than Ryzen in multithreaded.
You and all of us here know that evaluating the results as "slower than i3" and "losing to 3-year old $50 CPU" is misleading. It's a single-thread test, it shows single-thread performance. Your "3-year old $50 CPU" also beats a 1-year old $350 CPU from Intel. Stop trying to push this bull over on us, you've been here long enough that you know the pertinent facts about CPU architecture and single-thread performance that are important in evaluating these results.

The comparison is one Ryzen core at a certain frequency vs one Haswell core at a certain frequency, whether the Haswell core in question is being supplied by a Pentium G3258, an i3-4160 or an i7-4790K an i7-5960X makes no difference (except maybe 1-2% for cache design and RAM config), and obviously you know that. I can't imagine you believe you're fooling any of us with that commentary either, so all you're doing is showing off your bias.

And please link or screenshot the Passmark result. We want to see it firsthand. Not an unreasonable request given all the things you're telling us about it.
 

IllogicalGlory

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6950X outscores Ryzen by 30% in multithreaded. A complete stomp.
You get to compare the Pentium single-thread performance to Ryzen single-thread performance and say misleading things about it, but when it's turned around, now it's about multi-thread. What the heck?

FYI, the 6950X destroys the 5960X in multi-thread workloads as well.



1829 vs 1337 - 6950X 36.7% ahead.



45.50 vs 36.48 - 6950X 24.7% ahead.

Seriously, the 6950X is a monster.

If we just looked at Cinebench (with you only considering passmark, it's only fair), we might have to conclude that the 5960X is a "turd". It's getting completely stomped by the 6950X in Cinebench, even worse than that Ryzen (which again, could be faked) is in Passmark.
 

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I'll have to admit I didn't even notice the single threaded part at first, thus my initial suspicions... It's just a cherry picked benchmark at best, something for those looking for Zen to lose to grasp a hold of since there isn't much of that for those folks to grasp these days anyway.
 
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