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Now Mark just has to find the one who has been briefed with "5 SKUs/not cheap", while the others with information like "4 SKUs/cheap", "6 SKUs/not cheap", etc. are fine. You were friends in the past, you say?

Yeah we are old friends from college. I do not think Mark is following AT discussions, so won't be a problem for him.



I just want folks here there to remember; 8 core first gen Bulldozer's base clockspeeds were varying between, 2,8-3,6 Ghz.
 
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The problem is which market is the target. 8 cores are useless in games and yeah the 6900k is not a gaming CPU. So if you want to built a workstation and benefit from 8 cores for lots of workloads, your point makes sense. For mainstream and gaming, not so much.

I'm concerned why the 4 and 6 cores have lower clocks than the 1800x for example. Is it binning or market segmentation? Does the 6-core OC worse than the 8-core (due to binning)? That would be terrible because then I need the more expensive 8-core to get as close to a 7700k in ST as possible. If I loose more than 10% In ST 1600x vs 7700k OCed the 7700k is the clear winner (at same price).

How long before system req for ultra settings will demand an 8 cores? AMD does work with game devs and those prices enable a large user base.
More cores aren't really hurting perf in a real world gaming scenario but can provide upside in some games that scale and will provide more and more upside.
There is also multitasking even if just gaming plus a light workload.
Ofc folks that want quad, can buy quad and maybe invest more in a GPU if budget constrained but that's not a good idea for high end.
Intel by staying on 4 cores has been trying to upsell gamers to faster SKUs and sites that test "gaming" with a Titan X at 1080p, have been helping them, intentionally or not by creating this illusion that you are gonna be CPU bound. Some folks will buy 4 cores Intel for gaming thinking it's better and they will get burned ofc. Staying with 4 cores is unsustainable for game devs as single core perf just doesn't scale much anymore.The only way to gain access to more CPU resources is to go above 4 cores.

The clocks might be about product segmentation for now and AMD could introduce faster SKUs, a technical limitation isn't the only possible explanation. And clear winner in ST has no relevance anymore.

@ Dresdenboy
A bit offtopic, in that AMD presentation at HPCA, seems that a CU would have 32SP not 64SP , right? With 64 it would be way costly at just 500MHz while 32 and 1GHz sounds resonable.
 

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The problem is which market is the target. 8 cores are useless in games and yeah the 6900k is not a gaming CPU. So if you want to built a workstation and benefit from 8 cores for lots of workloads, your point makes sense. For mainstream and gaming, not so much.

I'm concerned why the 4 and 6 cores have lower clocks than the 1800x for example. Is it binning or market segmentation? Does the 6-core OC worse than the 8-core (due to binning)? That would be terrible because then I need the more expensive 8-core to get as close to a 7700k in ST as possible. If I loose more than 10% In ST 1600x vs 7700k OCed the 7700k is the clear winner (at same price).

In 2017, I would choose the 6C 12T with 10-15% lower ST over the 4C 8T at the same price every day.
Ryzen 6C 12T (R5 1600 non X) could even be cheaper than the 7700K.

As for the 4C and 6C Ryzen SKUs that have lower clocks, they are all 65W TDP vs 95W TDP of the two higher clocked 8C SKUs. If they were 95W TDP parts they would have same or even higher clocks than the 8C SKUs.
 
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AMD really seems to be taking a lot of pride in how its CPUs "look." I know that is not much of a consideration at the end of the day, but credit where it is due
Yeah, was really surprised to see that massive bold Ryzen logo. It actually looks cool on the CPU itself! Engineers must be proud of their little baby

I prefer current packaging:

I'm hoping the black box packaging leak wasn't fake, and it's just used for X models or something.
 
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Grey is the worst colour to choose with a marketing perspective. Have you guys ever seen an item with grey packaging on Wal-Mart? Black is the best for that kind of product. Intel using blueish colours since their company colour is "blue". AMD can use either Red or Black, but not Grey... It seems absurd. I hope it is fake.
 

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How do you guys believe these CPUs will be reviewed: with XFR or without it?

I bet a lot of big names will explicit disable this feature saying its an overclock and compare with Intel's only boost vs boost.
 

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Most likely review samples there
So you're implying that final SKUs will look boring again? And I thought, at those prices, one could cheaply buy a 2nd one with that label for a keychain.

How do you guys believe these CPUs will be reviewed: with XFR or without it?

I bet a lot of big names will explicit disable this feature saying its an overclock and compare with Intel's only boost vs boost.
They might simply review the non-X versions in comparison. And why shouldn't they review what the consumer is going to get?
 

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Interesting. So they pretty much just stole this logo
Well, they are going full Zen Buddhist with the name and logo lol. The name was Zen to begin with, but they couldn't patent Zen because of Buddhism I guess..so they went with Ryzen as a play on words I reckon.

I have to admit....these leaks look promising. I am not beyond scrapping this present 7700k to the classifieds lol. Not that it is slow...but just because.
 

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We've seen a price leak from Shop BLT. AMD has kind of showed their hand regarding Ryzen performance. AMD has not had a CPU priced over $400 since Athlon 64 X2. (FX-9590 was close but by then Bulldozer was already a big failure)

When Phenom II launched, AMD priced the 940 at $275 (Q9550 was priced at $319 while Q9400 was priced at $266) Anand wrote a review titled, "AMD Phenom II 940 & 920, A True Return to Competition".

When FX (Bulldozer) was launched, the FX-8150 was priced at $259 (i7-2600K priced at $319 at the time).

Here's hoping that Anand returns to write an article 8 years later titled, "AMD Ryzen 1800X, 1700X, & 1600X, AMD has Risen from the Dead"

LOL
 
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