..but one has to admit they do it damn well.
It's a pretty big ass machine that regulates and adapts itself to whatever the hell the situation is.
The clone part isn't exclusive to semicon. With Samsung everything from cars, appliances, TVs and everything else rely on some kind of cloning at some part of the product history in the group.
..but one has to admit they do it damn well.
It's a pretty big ass machine that regulates and adapts itself to whatever the hell the situation is.
Maybe the large foreign ownership (1/2) of Samsung had something to do with it.They are referred to as the borg, and not in a flattering way.
There is a reason they are responsible for 20% of S Korea's national GDP You don't get there by being Unicef
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The samsung foundry guys are not happy that they've basically had their future business turned against them because their mobile division (completely managed by an entirely separate team) convinced the legal team that there was more money to be made in just competing against Apple rather than making money being their foundry.
No fabless company wants to see themselves become the next victim of that sort of predatory "bait-and-clone" foundry business model.
Really? Are there articles on this out there, anything substantial? I just don't see why Samsung would need to copy or clone Apple phones when Motorola, HTC, LG etc all seemed to be able to figure out how to make similar phones without the benefit of being an Apple foundry.
I get that Apple might want to take it's business elsewhere once Samsung starts seriously competing with them in the phone business, but the idea that Samsung just flat out copies the designs which they saw as a benefit of being a foundry sounds a little too extreme to me.
Really? Are there articles on this out there, anything substantial? I just don't see why Samsung would need to copy or clone Apple phones when Motorola, HTC, LG etc all seemed to be able to figure out how to make similar phones without the benefit of being an Apple foundry.
Apple phones are just the tip of the iceberg. Look at cars, ships, TVs, in every single case here they copied the entire product strategy of the market leaders while undercutting them on price but never something truly innovative, then after a while when the business gain scale they start to field something barely innovative but never a breakthrough. It was like that with Sony TVs and home theaters, Toyota cars, GE appliances, Mitsubishi ships, Lockheed Martin planes and whatever you look.
They don't excel for innovate, they excel in manufacturing. They have very efficient fabs in whatever product they make, plus a government that piratically tailors the school curriculum for them and ensures that their business will always have funding and provides a cheap currency to boost their exports.
I won't enter in a moral argument here because I don't think this is the right forum for that, but one has to be blind to not see Samsung cloning products in almost every market they are in.
One could wonder how this would work - if china ever got a Semi IC manufacturing powerhouse or other more deeply hardcore electronic business giants on the world scene.
I often see Samsung as a small scale version of what would happen - if China companies grew so large and had such presence in various key-business areas in the world of IT\Electronics\Technology.
Counterfeit ICs is a huge business and a huge issue. China is already a Semi-IC powerhouse, just not the kind that you'd recognize at first glance because you are expecting that powerhouse to be sporting its own brand-name instead of sporting counterfeit brand names on the silkscreen.
From our "technical" perspective the product is 100% the same - that can't be said for electronics....yet.
...or can it?
Alot of chinese only products that are "western copy" are actually better than the western part.
Such as? Because all of the Chinese knockoffs that you can buy off of eBay or Alibaba are definitely not better... And I find it hard to believe they would sell the junk but not the good stuff...
Alot of chinese only products that are "western copy" are actually better than the western part.
You won't see a samsung\apple\LG\sony copied phone - have the exact same internal specs and performance as the original with electronics...yet.
Once that day comes...
Sounds extreme? Ah, ok. Samsung has never had issues with abdicating ethics in the name of profits.
The thing that confuses me is given how capital intensive semiconductor manufacturing is, why isn't Samsung more concerned about idle fabs? Do they just assume that they'll be able to fill them with their own designs? Seems like they risk sinking the whole ship, no?
They don't excel for innovate, they excel in manufacturing. They have very efficient fabs in whatever product they make, plus a government that piratically tailors the school curriculum for them and ensures that their business will always have funding and provides a cheap currency to boost their exports.
I'll have to call bullshit on this, at least in the smartphone business. Specs have pretty much always been irrelevant when competing with Apple, what Samsung did was actually "out-Apple" Apple. They pushed their Galaxy branding with their "S" line of phones (iPhone), they pushed large screens as something desirable (Retina) and both paid off immensely, to which Apple had pretty much no answer to because they were so used to things running their way. Samsung has taken a lot out of Apple's playbook, which ironically has lead them to become pretty much the most innovative smartphone manufacturer in the market since Apple released the first iPhone, but their tech isn't it.
The people who manage the semiconductor division are concerned, the people who manage the consumer products division not so much.
This is the problem with having a large company that has competing internal interests. Not only does the left hand not communicate with the right hand, on occasions they are undermining each other's stated business charter.