There is absolutely no evidence to back what he says. It's would be almost impossible to prove -- since many products produced by Intel and AMD over the years were for all intents and purposes "Factory Overclocks." If what he said was true, the AMD FX 9590 would crapping out errors and bad data. His opinion has holes in it bigger than Candlestick Park.
And how exactly do you think they can tell (beyond letting it catch on fire)? And how can they tell if you use a different cooler (after you remove the thermal paste)?
My best friend "popped" his FX 4100 (which was mildly overclocked) -- AMD replaced it under warranty with an FX 4300. As long as you don't bend the pins, AMD will usually swap it under the 3 year warranty.
Yet warranty is void as soon as you overclock.
Hell, AMD even voids the warranty is you use another cooler.
http://support.amd.com/en-us/search/faq/147
There is no evidence that you know of. Maybe you think AMD engineers are a bunch of idiots that would leave all that performance on the table for the sake of enthusiasts pleasure. Maybe you think AMD spent tons of money validating a design for certain parameters when they could just crank up the voltage and run prime95 to validate a new bin... I can't really say what you are thinking.
Well I will just say that it does say on my retail tin that my 8350 came in
" Unlocked and Overclockable " As long as you don't go all crazy with the overclock and use proper cooling they will warranty it. Pushing a 8350 to 4.7 with the stock HSF is a example of going crazy and a big no no that will probably get your rma denied.
I lapped mine to the copper. I don't think they'll take it back. :biggrin:
Just like you can't prove that AMD engineers aren't running prime95 to validate their designs. It's pretty clear what I'm thinking: AMD and Intel wouldn't sell any processor that was unlocked if they wanted to prevent its users from tuning their CPU's. That's just common sense.
Intel said:http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/overclocking-intel-processors.html
Product and Performance Informationopen
1. Warning: Altering clock frequency and/or voltage may: (i) reduce system stability and useful life of the system, processor, and other system components; (ii) cause the processor and other system components to fail; (iii) cause reductions in system performance; (iv) cause additional heat or other damage; and (v) affect system data integrity. Intel has not tested, and does not warranty, the operation of the processor beyond its specifications. Intel has not tested, and does not warranty, the operation of other system components beyond their industry standard specifications. Intel assumes no responsibility that the processor and other system components, including if used with altered clock frequencies and/or voltages, will be fit for any particular purpose.
/intel-visual-technology-consumer.html.
There is no evidence that you know of. Maybe you think AMD engineers are a bunch of idiots that would leave all that performance on the table for the sake of enthusiasts pleasure. Maybe you think AMD spent tons of money validating a design for certain parameters when they could just crank up the voltage and run prime95 to validate a new bin... I can't really say what you are thinking.
RMA fraud doesnt make your flawed arguments any better.
Common sense or not, if you overclock, and are honest, you void your warranty.
The problem is -- some people are overclocking without being aware. My friend overclocked by accident by simply turning on the Genie on his MSI motherboard. Without giving consent or being aware of what the motherboard was doing, he was still legally covered by the warranty. All you have to do on MSI motherboards is select "Optimized Settings" in the Bios. "Optimized Settings" meant something completely different when he bought his last computer 10 years ago.
AMD said:​The limited warranty does not cover damages due to external causes, including improper use, problems with electrical power, accident, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or improper testing.​
And how exactly do you think they can tell (beyond letting it catch on fire)? And how can they tell if you use a different cooler (after you remove the thermal paste)?
My best friend "popped" his FX 4100 (which was mildly overclocked) -- AMD replaced it under warranty with an FX 4300. As long as you don't bend the pins, AMD will usually swap it under the 3 year warranty.
No he wasnt. Nomatter if it was MSI or your friends fault. Its still fraud to AMD.
He accepted AMDs terms when he used the CPU.
Warranty fraud, nice. With customers like these, AMD is sure to soon be back in the black.