AMD shut out of the debt market

mrmt

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It wasn't news here, but AMD is now one notch above default, effectively shut out of the credit market.

Fitch is assuming a far more cautious approach than AMD management. They are forecasting losses and negative cash flow for the entire year.

Interesting their liquidation value for AMD, something like 700 million dollars.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/30/idUSWNB002UU20130130
Jan 30 - Fitch Ratings has downgraded the following ratings for Advanced Micro Devices Inc.'s (NYSE: AMD): --Long-term IDR to 'CCC' from 'B'; --Senior unsecured debt to 'CCC/RR4' from 'B/RR4'. Fitch's actions affect approximately $2.1 billion of total debt. The ratings reflect Fitch's expectations that negative free cash flow (FCF) in 2013 will drive cash below AMD's target level and potentially approach the company's minimum operating level. Beyond the near-term, Fitch believes a strong end market recovery and adoption of AMD's new products will be required to preserve cash during the company's multi-year transformation.

Fitch expects negative revenue growth in the mid- to high-teens for 2013, driven by weak consumer spending, robust tablet penetration and lingering excess channel inventory anticipated for the first half of the year. Revenue growth could turn positive in the back half of 2013, assuming strong sales of AMD's new products.

Negative revenue growth will drive profitability lower in 2013, despite restructuring actions expected to reduce quarterly operating expenses to $450 million by the September 2013 quarter. Fitch expects negative FCF of $250 million to $450 million in 2013 from lower profitability levels and inventory builds related to new product ramps.

AMD's cash usage will be amplified by cash payments to GLOBALFOUNDRIES (GF) for amendments to the wafer supply agreement (WSA), including $215 million in fiscal 2013 and $200 million at the beginning of fiscal 2014. These cash outflows could be partially offset by proceeds from AMD's proposed office building sale-and-leaseback transaction.

AMD is planning first half of 2013 launches of system-on-a-chip (SoC) accelerated processors for ultra-low power mobility and tablet products and solid revenue growth in the second of 2013 from ramps of a broad set of design wins. Delays to these launches, the expected market recovery, or product sales ramps would exacerbate Fitch forecasts.

Credit protection measures will remain volatile, due to variations in profitability. Fitch estimates total leverage was 4.2x for 2012 but may approach 10x in 2013. Fitch estimates interest coverage was 2.8x for 2012 but could fall to 1x in 2013. AMD's transformation targets higher-growth markets, including ultra-low-power mobility, high-density servers and semi-custom embedded products. Given AMD's traditional PC markets represent the vast majority of sales, achieving the company's target of 40%-50% of sales from higher-growth markets will require a number of years.

Fitch believes liquidity was sufficient as of Dec. 29, 2012, and consisted of $1.18 billion of cash and cash equivalents, including $181 million of long-term marketable securities. Fitch expects negative FCF of $250 million to $450 million for the current year, pressuring liquidity by the end 2013. The company has a stated target cash level of $1.1 billion and minimum operating cash level of $700 million.

Total debt was $2.1 billion at Dec. 29, 2012 and consisted of:
--$580 million of 6% senior unsecured convertible notes due 2015; --$500 million of 8.125% senior unsecured notes due 2017;
--$500 million of 7.75% senior unsecured notes due 2020;
--$500 million of 7.5% senior unsecured notes due 2022; --Approximately $25 million of capital leases.

AMD's ratings continue to be supported by:

--Low capital intensity as a fabless semiconductor maker, resulting in a stronger FCF profile;

--Reduced revenue breakeven profitability, pro forma for the completion of current restructuring initiatives;

--The company's role as the only current viable alternative microprocessor supplier to Intel, although Fitch expects new entrants in certain markets over the intermediate term. Fitch's concerns center on:

--Limited financial flexibility, given cash usage trends;

--AMD's modest share of the overall PC market and limited share in rapidly growing small-form factor mobility products;

--High R&D intensity as a fabless semiconductor maker.

Further negative rating actions could be taken if the penetration of new APU products is lackluster, resulting in revenue declines and cash usage beyond 2013. Positive rating actions could occur if:

--FCF exceeds the upper end of Fitch's base case range;

--Strong adoption of new products, portending solid revenue growth and positive FCF in 2014.

AMD's Recovery Ratings (RRs) reflect Fitch's belief that the company would be reorganized rather than liquidated in a bankruptcy scenario. This is given Fitch's estimates that AMD's reorganization value of approximately $1 billion exceeds a projected liquidation value of $682 million.

To arrive at a reorganization value, Fitch assumes a 4x reorganization multiple and applies it to its estimate of distressed operating EBITDA of $260 million, which covers estimated annual fixed charges, resulting in an adjusted reorganization value of $939 million after subtracting administrative claims.

Fitch estimates the approximately $2.1 billion of unsecured claims recover approximately 45%, resulting in an RR of 'RR4'.
 
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ShintaiDK

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700 million sounds about right, tho it declines daily.

So AMD now officially went from:
B : financial situation varies noticeably

To this:
CCC : currently vulnerable and dependent on favorable economic conditions to meet its commitments

Both are rated non investment grade. Or in layman terms, junk.
 

mrmt

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700 million sounds about right, tho it declines daily.

So AMD now officially went from:
B : financial situation varies noticeably

To this:
CCC : currently vulnerable and dependent on favorable economic conditions to meet its commitments

Both are rated non investment grade. Or in layman terms, junk.

It's one notch above default, not junk. Just edited my text. thanks.
 

Haserath

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It went from

Probably going to get your money.

To

Good luck getting your money back.
 

Gigantopithecus

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At this point I am less concerned about an Intel monopoly than I am an Nvidia monopoly. Intel is getting squeezed by mobile devices. I don't think they can afford to hike their CPU prices to monopoly levels because of the rise of mobile computing - and the stagnant global economy.

Nvidia, on the other hand, doesn't need to be as concerned as Intel about mobile computing because its computer GPUs do not have mobile equivalents. PC gamers game on PCs for a reason. Then again, Nvidia also has to keep prices in check because of the bad economy.

At this point, I'm not sure what the future of AMD really is - and I doubt they really know, either. As I am not nearly as familiar with enterprise hardware as I am with consumer hardware, I can only say that I see AMD's real strengths right now are its APUs and GPUs, and those are what I'd focus on salvaging.
 

NTMBK

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This tells me that posters with an affinity for AMD just like to pick fights. They're involved in all of them.

We should start more Nvidia vs Intel threads. I'm certain Tegra 3 could take Atom in a fight.
 

mrmt

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If anyone is interested:



http://www.4-traders.com/ADVANCED-M...-Technology-and-Internet-Conference-15962407/



SUNNYVALE, CA -- (MARKETWIRE) -- 01/23/13 -- AMD (NYSE: AMD) today announced that senior vice president and chief sales officer John Byrne will present at the Goldman Sachs Technology and Internet Conference at 10:20 a.m. PST on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 in San Francisco.



A real-time audio webcast of the presentation can be accessed on the Investor Relations homepage: http://ir.amd.com.



A replay of the webcast can be accessed approximately 2 hours after the conclusion of the live event and will be available for 30 days after the conference.
 

Ferzerp

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Guys, please refrain from going OT.


Sorry. We all know it will end up with white knights and bickering anyway. Can't we do it lightheartedly before the people who are actually going to do it notice the thread?
 

mrmt

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Sorry. We all know it will end up with white knights and bickering anyway. Can't we do it lightheartedly before the people who are actually going to do it notice the thread?

IDC made a few posts about flame war and baiting that made me think. If we can't at least add something to the topic or to some ongoing discussion, why post it? The blind AMD guy won't acknowledge that the company is disintegrating even if the company filled for chapter 11 tomorrow, and there are people here that wouldn't see value in AMD offers in any given scenario, so unless you have something interesting to add, your post won't make a difference. This thread will probably end up way off topic as it is the case with the others, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but let's at least try to stay constructive.

For the other financial guys here, do you agree with Fitch FCF forecasts? How can Kabini impact those forecasts?

Some 75-100 million in operational losses per quarter, no new asset sales, no break even this year.

I think the baseline scenario is very conservative, but not far fetched. It matches some conclusion from previous threads, where we reached the conclusion that AMD would need another big restructuring in 2013.
 

Gigantopithecus

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For the other financial guys here, do you agree with Fitch FCF forecasts? How can Kabini impact those forecasts?

CCC : currently vulnerable and dependent on favorable economic conditions to meet its commitments.

I don't think there's much if anything that AMD can do aside from radical restructuring. Favorable economic conditions? Those won't return for a long time.
 

mrmt

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I don't think there's much if anything that AMD can do aside from radical restructuring. Favorable economic conditions? Those won't return for a long time.

What would AMD again from a restructuring? It isn't debt or union agreements that are killing the operation, but inability to design and sell profitable products. Sure, they could get rid of GLF, but who would manufacture for them in the short term if not GLF?
 

NTMBK

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What would AMD again from a restructuring? It isn't debt or union agreements that are killing the operation, but inability to design and sell profitable products. Sure, they could get rid of GLF, but who would manufacture for them in the short term if not GLF?

TSMC. Worked perfectly well for Bobcat.

To be honest, it's not really GloFo that they need to get rid of, its their horrifically abusive relationship with GloFo. That wafer sales agreement is sucking the life out of them.
 

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If AMD goes under, I would imagine both Intel and Nvidia wanting to buy them out for the sake of their GPU patents. Intel probably wants them, and Nvidia probably doesn't want Intel to have them.
 

mrmt

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If AMD goes under, I would imagine both Intel and Nvidia wanting to buy them out for the sake of their GPU patents. Intel probably wants them, and Nvidia probably doesn't want Intel to have them.

The question then would be whether Intel wants to buy them or not. Nvidia cannot compete with Intel when it comes down to money.
 

Plimogz

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^lol

Who wants to go in on a flatbed truck with me and go bid on some cool tooling at their factory closeout auctions?
 
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