and AMD?s marketing team is now working on a way to preserve Ruiz? legacy in AMD?s history books to avoid the perception that the executive caused the company?s current critical state.
Originally posted by: mooseracing
I find this part stupid, if it is true he apparantly has his hands in way too many places. Not to mention he needs to get out of there and not be a part of the company at all.
and AMD?s marketing team is now working on a way to preserve Ruiz? legacy in AMD?s history books to avoid the perception that the executive caused the company?s current critical state.
Originally posted by: nbowman
Originally posted by: mooseracing
I find this part stupid, if it is true he apparantly has his hands in way too many places. Not to mention he needs to get out of there and not be a part of the company at all.
and AMD?s marketing team is now working on a way to preserve Ruiz? legacy in AMD?s history books to avoid the perception that the executive caused the company?s current critical state.
which is exactly what they should be doing on the company dime, after all covering Hector's ass is whats best for the company and shareholders, right?! :disgust:
Originally posted by: Idontcare
For Hector, he just turned out to be the master pimp in the whole AMD deal. Treated no better than his last bitch (moto).
Originally posted by: magreen
"...elected politician gives two rat's ass's about you."
That's two rats' asses. Got to get our rat ass grammar right around here, thank you very much.
Originally posted by: dmens
Originally posted by: Idontcare
For Hector, he just turned out to be the master pimp in the whole AMD deal. Treated no better than his last bitch (moto).
maybe he fucked amd over because they didn't do a $10 million redecoration of his office like motorola did.
Originally posted by: taltamir
this IS a rumor article... its not necessarily true.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: taltamir
this IS a rumor article... its not necessarily true.
LOL ---- if you know anything about this, youll laugh with me.
Originally posted by: nbowman
Originally posted by: mooseracing
I find this part stupid, if it is true he apparantly has his hands in way too many places. Not to mention he needs to get out of there and not be a part of the company at all.
and AMD?s marketing team is now working on a way to preserve Ruiz? legacy in AMD?s history books to avoid the perception that the executive caused the company?s current critical state.
which is exactly what they should be doing on the company dime, after all covering Hector's ass is whats best for the company and shareholders, right?! :disgust:
Originally posted by: mooseracing
Originally posted by: nbowman
Originally posted by: mooseracing
I find this part stupid, if it is true he apparantly has his hands in way too many places. Not to mention he needs to get out of there and not be a part of the company at all.
and AMD?s marketing team is now working on a way to preserve Ruiz? legacy in AMD?s history books to avoid the perception that the executive caused the company?s current critical state.
which is exactly what they should be doing on the company dime, after all covering Hector's ass is whats best for the company and shareholders, right?! :disgust:
being a shareholder myself since before the the 754/939 socket hayday I would like to behead that bastard.
Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
they should outsource ruiz to mexico
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
OK . I did bad mouth hector. But i think i was wrong. Hector didn't know C2D was going to change the fortune of his company. He did know what Intel was planning for future graphics . just not what form it would take . Intels decision and direction surprized me .
So buying ATI was not so stupid . Now that ATI is leading in performance with a cheaper gpu than the comp. Its looking better for AMD/ATI.
Right now as I see it Hector made 2 mistakes .
1) Waiting for Intel to catch and blow by.
2) Letting Dave Orton go .
Originally posted by: piesquared
And Tortellini had to know about ATI's IGP's as well no? So how did he respond? G43 and G45? Looks like Tortellini should hit the bricks also.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...on-Efficient,1997.html
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: piesquared
And Tortellini had to know about ATI's IGP's as well no? So how did he respond? G43 and G45? Looks like Tortellini should hit the bricks also.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...on-Efficient,1997.html
Agreed.
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: piesquared
And Tortellini had to know about ATI's IGP's as well no? So how did he respond? G43 and G45? Looks like Tortellini should hit the bricks also.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...on-Efficient,1997.html
Agreed.
Thanks for the link - that's a really interesting article. Can we conclude from this that an multiple-year-old underclocked Athlon would also beat a Via Nano in power consumption and performance?
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: piesquared
And Tortellini had to know about ATI's IGP's as well no? So how did he respond? G43 and G45? Looks like Tortellini should hit the bricks also.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...on-Efficient,1997.html
Agreed.
Thanks for the link - that's a really interesting article. Can we conclude from this that an multiple-year-old underclocked Athlon would also beat a Via Nano in power consumption and performance?
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: piesquared
And Tortellini had to know about ATI's IGP's as well no? So how did he respond? G43 and G45? Looks like Tortellini should hit the bricks also.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...on-Efficient,1997.html
Agreed.
Thanks for the link - that's a really interesting article. Can we conclude from this that an multiple-year-old underclocked Athlon would also beat a Via Nano in power consumption and performance?
It would appear so. SOI definitely brings value to the table when power consumption is a key metric of success.
What impresses me is not so much the performance (the xtor budget and mm^2 budget are crazy expensive for this computing class) but that the chip's overall power consumption is driven to such low levels despite the crazy number of xtors being turned on to enable the performance.
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: piesquared
And Tortellini had to know about ATI's IGP's as well no? So how did he respond? G43 and G45? Looks like Tortellini should hit the bricks also.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...on-Efficient,1997.html
Agreed.
Thanks for the link - that's a really interesting article. Can we conclude from this that an multiple-year-old underclocked Athlon would also beat a Via Nano in power consumption and performance?
It would appear so. SOI definitely brings value to the table when power consumption is a key metric of success.
What impresses me is not so much the performance (the xtor budget and mm^2 budget are crazy expensive for this computing class) but that the chip's overall power consumption is driven to such low levels despite the crazy number of xtors being turned on to enable the performance.
Any CPU can be brought down to that kind of power level if you reduce the frequency and the voltage to extreme levels. You could get a Prescott to consume 8W if you clocked it at the right frequency. When an architecture is designed to run at 2-3GHz with (relatively) high voltages and consuming 30-40W, it is not hard to run a chip at 1GHz with extremely low voltage and consume 8W. On the CPU side at least, I doubt Intel would have any trouble getting a single-core Core 2 Celeron to run at 1GHz and consume 8W.
Heck look at what Anand was able to do. You can get a quad-core Yorkfield to consume 13W at 1.2GHz with the right voltage: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...howdoc.aspx?i=3184&p=3
I don't think that the A64 2000+ is very impressive, the 780G chipset is very impressive. When Intel moves to Moorestown SoC with everything built at 45nm, power consumption will be much more impressive. For right now the 2000+ and 780G is a better solution than Atom for the desktop space, but whether it makes sense will depend on the price. You can get an Atom mobo + embedded CPU for $70-80..... A 780G alone costs around $70. AMD is going to have trouble pricing a 77mm^2 chip plus a fully featured motherboard at the same levels as a tiny mobo + a 25mm^2 chip.