AMD Sues Intel: "Intel uses its anticompetitive actions to dictate who will succeed in the market or who won't.? Oh dear

[AGodspeed]

EDIT: Update:

Thanks to ST4RCUTTER for this link. It should clear up some confusion.

It seems this is another antitrust case. Oh well. :disgust:

 

[Vegito]

Interesting.. wonder for what ?

 

[bozo1]

Aw, they love each other. It's just 3rd grade flirting.

 

[ToBeMe]

Word i'm getting through a few people is it's all about this Proccessor rating. Don't know anymore than that but several people I've spoken with said that was at the center of the suit filed...........Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but, I suppose it could to someone.......

 

[Mookow]

wtf is this over?

 

[Phuz]

They could take them to court and say, you are selling false performance, IE, AMD's 1500mhz Processor is MUCH more powerful than Intel's 1500mhz..1600mhz..2Ghz.. processors.

 

[AGodspeed]

They could take them to court and say, you are selling false performance, IE, AMD's 1500mhz Processor is MUCH more powerful than Intel's 1500mhz..1600mhz..2Ghz.. processors.

I doubt it very much.

EDIT: You know, I wonder if that's what it's actually about Phuz. In a way, AMD would have a case. I would really like to hear the argument.

 

[Novgrod]

If I had to guess, it's something about monopolistic practices. What with the recent economic situation, Intel has been *heavily* leveraging companies to drop AMD chips. cf. IBM, Gateway (what's left of gateway) dropping AMD. Living a stone's throw from Compaq's headquarters and having friends who work there, I've heard about it. Also, Sanders also has is feathers ruffled about something and he's always looking for a fight. Let's hope neither tries to kick each other in the nuts, and let's all hope it stays a two or more company fight. I know I've profited from this competition

 

[WetSprocket]

I think in a minor traffic accident Intel verbally abused AMD and snatched their glasses off.

 

[Tsaico]

I also think it is funny how the judge's name is Ingram (for those of you who don't know, Ingram is a huge computer part distibutor)

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

<< I also think it is funny how the judge's name is Ingram (for those of you who don't know, Ingram is a huge computer part distibutor) >>

Ingram is also an automatic weapons maker :Q

 

[zippy]

<< They could take them to court and say, you are selling false performance, IE, AMD's 1500mhz Processor is MUCH more powerful than Intel's 1500mhz..1600mhz..2Ghz.. processors. >>

They would have no case. Hz = cycles per second - so long as Intel isn't purposely fudging these values, how can you sue on these grounds?

 

[AGodspeed]

I also think it is funny how the judge's name is Ingram (for those of you who don't know, Ingram is a huge computer part distibutor)

Haha, I noticed that too. Ingram Micro does a pretty good job.

 

[KpocAlypse]

And i was starting to think that Intel and AMD might play nice for a while...I'd really, really like to know why.

EDIT: "It(AMD) wants to see papers in the case of Intergraph versus Intel, a request that the latter(Intel) is opposing"

Hummmm....Anyone know what that was/is about?

2 EDIT: July 30, 2001 Intergraph Corporation <Nasdaq: INGR> today filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court, the Eastern District of Texas, charging Intel Corporation with patent infringement. Specifically, Intergraph claims that Intel has infringed on two patents that define key aspects of parallel instruction computing (PIC). The patented technology was developed by Intergraph in 1992 when the company?s Advanced Processor Division designed Intergraph?s next generation C5 Clipper microprocessor.

In the complaint, Intergraph says that its patented PIC technology is an essential component in Intel?s IA-64 EPIC (TM) (explicitly parallel instruction computing) architecture, which is at the heart of Intel?s new Itanium (TM) chip. The patents, which Intergraph filed for in 1993, cover (1) the techniques used to convey compiler-recognized parallelism to the hardware and (2) the novel approach to routing instructions to any of the processing units.

 

[Texmaster]

If it is about the processor ratings, thats really a crybaby tactic by AMD.

 

[khtm]

<< If it is about the processor ratings, thats really a crybaby tactic by AMD. >>


Nobody cares about "crybaby" tactics in business. Companies will do whatever it takes to survive.

-khtm-

 

[Jittos]

<< If I had to guess, it's something about monopolistic practices. What with the recent economic situation, Intel has been *heavily* leveraging companies to drop AMD chips. cf. IBM, Gateway (what's left of gateway) dropping AMD >>



I'd guess the same thing.

 

[MadRat]

I'm guessing its about the OEMs, too. There is zero reason to drop AMD components over this whole VIA-Intel spat. Intel threatened to sue any company that used VIA chipsets that may contain P4 technology and then implied that all AMD-compatible chipsets fall into this category. Intel has allegedly been selling parts to OEMs at different pricing levels in order to sway the bigger ones away from AMD parts for some time now, but that alone is not illegal. It sounds like they may have also dumped Celeron parts on the market at or below their manufacturing costs, too. Anti-competitive practices are grounds for civil damages.

 

[Pabster]

I don't think anyone read the article.

It isn't about MHz ratings or false advertising. They're (AMD) simply trying to gather additional evidence to hand over to the EU during their antitrust investigation of Intel.

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

This may shed some more light upon the darkness.

 

[MasterHoss]

<< They're (AMD) simply trying to gather additional evidence to hand over to the EU during their antitrust investigation of Intel. >>



Geez, thank GOD, the Republicans control the courts. I hate it when Uncle Sam tries to break up slap around companies that excel at what they do.

So basically, AMD is playing the role of AOL TimeWarner, Sun Microsystems, etc?? That's pretty low.

Well, AMD turns out some bad-ass processors but everything else about them sucks. The way I figure it, if they continue to pop out better processors than their Intel, people will start to see the light.

 

[AGodspeed]

Let's bump it.

 

[Ryan]

It also at ZDnet http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5098757,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews01

 

[Athlon4all]

Bump. Never saw this coming. Hopefully some good will come out of it.

 

[Pabster]

MasterHoss wrote:

"Well, AMD turns out some bad-ass processors but everything else about them sucks. The way I figure it, if they continue to pop out better processors than their Intel, people will start to see the light."

As in "I want one so bad..." or what?

Come on Hoss, if it were the other way around (Intel suing AMD for anything) you'd be jumping for joy and encouraging a riot.