AMD to equivilent Intel CPU

lifeblood

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My motherboard is starting to give me problems and I might have to replace it. If so I’m going to replace both the MB and the CPU and go with an Intel Rig. If I do, I want to initially get a cheaper CPU so I can invest in a really good Motherboard. I will replace the CPU later when I can afford something better.

My question is what is the cheapest Intel CPU that will give me the same gaming performance as my current AMD 6350? I play MMO’s like Guild Wars II and SWTOR, FPS like Metro, things like that. I also do office productivity but almost any CPU can handle that these days.
 

AtenRa

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Get the best mobo you want (Z97) and the Pentium G3258. OC to 4GHz+ and you should be more than fine for Guildwars and MMOs. Later upgrade to Core i7 Broadwell.
 

jhu

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My motherboard is starting to give me problems and I might have to replace it. If so I’m going to replace both the MB and the CPU and go with an Intel Rig. If I do, I want to initially get a cheaper CPU so I can invest in a really good Motherboard. I will replace the CPU later when I can afford something better.

My question is what is the cheapest Intel CPU that will give me the same gaming performance as my current AMD 6350? I play MMO’s like Guild Wars II and SWTOR, FPS like Metro, things like that. I also do office productivity but almost any CPU can handle that these days.

What is your budget?

As for Intel equivalent, that will depend on the usage.

Multithreaded, it should be equivalent to: Core i5 4440 (3.1 GHz)
For single-threaded, it should be equivalent to: Core Core i5 4690T (2.5 GHz)

Guildwars 2 doesn't really scale well beyond 2 cores so getting that Pentium and overclocking is more than adequate.
 

Maximilian

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My motherboard is starting to give me problems and I might have to replace it. If so I’m going to replace both the MB and the CPU and go with an Intel Rig. If I do, I want to initially get a cheaper CPU so I can invest in a really good Motherboard. I will replace the CPU later when I can afford something better.

My question is what is the cheapest Intel CPU that will give me the same gaming performance as my current AMD 6350? I play MMO’s like Guild Wars II and SWTOR, FPS like Metro, things like that. I also do office productivity but almost any CPU can handle that these days.

That is completely backwards. D:
 

SteveGrabowski

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That is completely backwards. D:

Yeah, I don't get that either. Buy an i5-4690k while it's $200 (instead of $240) or an i7-4790k for $290 (normally $340) and a $60-$70 H97 board and then replace with a badass Z97 board when you're ready to overclock. Either way you're out $60-$70 (cost of the G3258), but in my scenario you're still always gaming on an amazing CPU.
 
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lifeblood

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That is completely backwards. D:

I have no problem swapping the CPU, but swapping the MB is a royal pain in the butt to me. I would rather swap the MB once, route and strap in the cables, then not touch it again. Just a personal preference.
 

SteveGrabowski

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I have no problem swapping the CPU, but swapping the MB is a royal pain in the butt to me. I would rather swap the MB once, route and strap in the cables, then not touch it again. Just a personal preference.

Have you seen what the K-series CPU's are selling for today?
 

andg

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What's the point of spending a lot on the motherboard?

I mean, you can buy a high-end CPU like the i7 4790k, drop it in a h81 mobo and it will run with no problems.

So what's the point of getting anything above a h81 board unless you need 6 sata ports, 6 usb3 ports etc. (and who needs that anyway).
 
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SteveGrabowski

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What's the point of spending a lot on the motherboard?

I mean, you can buy a high-end CPU like the i7 4790k, drop it in a h81 mobo and it will run with no problems.

So what's the point of getting anything above a h81 board unless you need 6 sata ports, 6 usb3 ports etc. (and who needs that anyway).

You'll need to do a BIOS update on that H81 board to use the i7-4790k though.
 

lifeblood

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What's the point of spending a lot on the motherboard?

I mean, you can buy a high-end CPU like the i7 4790k, drop it in a h81 mobo and it will run with no problems.

So what's the point of getting anything above a h81 board unless you need 6 sata ports, 6 usb3 ports etc. (and who needs that anyway).

My first requirement is reliability. That rules out most of the cheap boards or boards from certain manufacturers. I also have been known to overclock at times, when the mood strikes. That requires a Z class board/chip set. Other than that I have no unique needs like extra SATA or USB.
 
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My first requirement is reliability. That rules out most of the cheap boards or boards from certain manufacturers. I also have been known to overclock at times, when the mood strikes. That requires a Z class board/chip set. Other than that I have no unique needs like extra SATA or USB.

Question for you: do you plan to sell your old CPU?
 

tential

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I have no problem swapping the CPU, but swapping the MB is a royal pain in the butt to me. I would rather swap the MB once, route and strap in the cables, then not touch it again. Just a personal preference.

Youve come here roast for advice so perhaps you should listen to it.

Spending a lot on a mono doesn't net you more performance. An expensive mobo and a cheap mobo perform within 3% of eachother. Also an expensive mobo doesn't necessarily net you more reliability at all either.

Listen to the advice were giving you. Get mobo that fits your needs, is proven to be good quality, and is a decent price.
That's how you ensure longevity. Getting the most expensive mobo you can does nothing but waste your cash and you still could get a failing mobo.

But it's your money and generally people dont actually listen to advicw given when they come here.

Cost does not equate to reliability something a lot of users fail to understand.
 

Maximilian

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I have no problem swapping the CPU, but swapping the MB is a royal pain in the butt to me. I would rather swap the MB once, route and strap in the cables, then not touch it again. Just a personal preference.

Its been a long long time since buying a budget board was a bad idea, if it ever really was a bad idea.

They all have solid state caps, they are all stable, they all have a bunch of useful built in stuff. The only things high end boards offer is fluff/aesthetics/gimmicks.

Before the folks that bought a high end board jump in to defend their purchase there are definitely reasons to buy a high end board, but perceiving it to be better than a low end one aint one of those reasons. They are terrible value in general.
 

pauldun170

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I don't think I've ever spent more than $130 for a motherboard in over a decade of builds.
If I were shopping today I might grab a Gigabyte Z97 UD series board ($119 on sale) and pair it with the processor I'm sticking with for the life the PC.
 
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My i5-4590 is paired with a $119 MSI Z87 board; it's been working flawlessly for months of pretty heavy use.

I don't see any reason to spend more on a board unless there are specific features that you're after or you're buying HEDT.
 

Ranulf

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I can see the reasons to go with a nice board now. Given the sales going on though, I'd try to stretch the budget as I think it is easier to drop in a new cpu than swap out a mobo (windows installing issues). Though I suppose the odds of finding a good overclocking z97 board in the next two years won't be hard as 1150 is going to be around awhile.
 

lifeblood

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This is good news. I was under the impression I had to get the expensive boards for reliability. Maybe my current rig can hold on a little longer and I can save enough to get a midrange board and highend CPU at the same time.
 

tential

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This is good news. I was under the impression I had to get the expensive boards for reliability. Maybe my current rig can hold on a little longer and I can save enough to get a midrange board and highend CPU at the same time.

I post on a casual forum that has a tech section. Those users are the suckered that are spending $300 on a mobo and will be able to give you 0 solid explanatio as to why they made their purchase. I'm finding it's the twitch generation who are seeing far more mobo related ads that get suckered into this. Asus in particular had done a great job as marketing their mobos as amazing in that regard. Can't tell you how many ads I see for ROG Asus and how many people recommend expensive Asus mobos with 0 basis on a reason why.

More power to these companies though that can make a quick dollar always admire a good hustle.
 
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