AMD to Launch GPU Codenamed Hawaii in Hawaii Sept 25

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OCGuy

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If we see performance between a 780 and Titan, at a 500 dollar price tag, that would be pretty rad.

A completely new arch, especially on a new node.. a 2 year wait...I hope they are shooting for much better than this. a 7970 refresh could have done this.
 

boxleitnerb

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With current drivers, my Titan does 4769 overall and 4959 graphics score in 3DMark Firestrike Extreme. That would put Hawaii a tiny tad in front.
 

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Assuming that's the Hawaii in the picture, assuming it beats the Titan, assuming its priced at 500 USD, it could be a major winner for AMD. But, assumptions.
 

Arzachel

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How is it possible they are launching on 20nm? Awesome if true, but it does not make any sense.

Clearly AMD has invented a time machine!

If they're launching this year, then it's on 28nm. The 20nm rumour is just baseless speculation perpetuated by ignorant people.
 

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definitely Hawaii is a 28nm product. 20nm is nowhere close to ready.

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/08/07/amd-to-launch-hawaii-in-hawaii/

"This is a massively updated GPU vs the minor tweaks in the last round. Given the timing, Hawaii is unquestionably a 28nm part so no shrink related performance bump but the architectural changes should more than make up for that. It is unlikely to be an incremental advance."

35 - 40% faster than HD 7970 Ghz using a 450 - 480 sq mm big die GPU and a optimized GCN architecture is very much possible. On a mature TSMC 28nm manufacturing the big die at good yields should be possible.
 
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boxleitnerb

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I think it's great that AMD finally builds big GPUs again. This might be the biggest GPU from ATI/AMD ever, R600 being 420mm2.
 

sontin

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And the hype begins again.
Have you guys forget Cayman? A GTX480 killer - 20% faster.

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Black Octagon

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And the hype begins again.
Have you guys forget Cayman? A GTX480 killer - 20% faster.

Just like the 680=GK110 garbage from least year..."40% faster than Southern Islands."

I wish people would learn to take pre-market rumours with a grain of salt.

(and a new forum rule obliging threads like this to start with the word "RUMOUR" wouldn't go astray either...)
 

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Looks like they started clearing inventory already, we got some deep cuts on the HD 7000 series.

There's a 7950 for $189.99 lol.
 
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Yup, its a 28nm refresh, with volume to back it up so they can clear inventory with massive price drops across 7 series.

There's NO way its a 20nm product with volume to do this.
 

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With current drivers, my Titan does 4769 overall and 4959 graphics score in 3DMark Firestrike Extreme. That would put Hawaii a tiny tad in front.

Sure, what if it's $549?

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boxleitnerb

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Performance-wise...duh. Do you always have to deviate from the current topic at hand? Seems you simply cannot control yourself.
 

raghu78

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Performance-wise...duh. Do you always have to deviate from the current topic at hand? Seems you simply cannot control yourself.

what do you mean ? performance and price both go hand in hand especially in the context of meaningful competition. if AMD matches Titan for USD 550 - 600 don't you think that GTX 780 / GTX Titan has to come down in price.
 

sontin

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Price is a result of the market condition. Titan's performance 10months later is boring.
Titan came out 10months after the 7970ghz and offered 30-50% more performance.
 

boxleitnerb

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what do you mean ? performance and price both go hand in hand especially in the context of meaningful competition. if AMD matches Titan for USD 550 - 600 don't you think that GTX 780 / GTX Titan has to come down in price.

I mean that someone posted a benchmark result and I posted my comparison result. So it was purely about performance. You can discuss just performance, you know. For example if you're mainly interested in the question if/how AMD can match Titan, not in how much it will cost.
 

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Yep, and for 220% of the price. A price that made it irrelevant for 90% of the people that buys a dGPU. Halo product marketing at it's best. Things get even more sad when you think that the first product that showed Titan's irrelevancy was another one from the same company (780, almost same performance but for 65% of the price). For blind fanboys they will say the 780 is underpriced, for everyone else and their dog the Titan was the one overpriced.

Now we finally can have a Titan-like performer for the price we are accoustomed to see for flagships GPUs.
 

96Firebird

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I mean that someone posted a benchmark result and I posted my comparison result. So it was purely about performance. You can discuss just performance, you know. For example if you're mainly interested in the question if/how AMD can match Titan, not in how much it will cost.

He posts prices to random things in all of his posts. I'm surprised he didn't link to some random card on Newegg.

Lets get to the facts. If AMD releases a new GPU lineup this year, it will be on 28nm. If it matches Titan's performance, it will not be $500.

That is called being realistic.
 
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