AMD to launch new flagship Radeon HD 7970 desktop graphics card on December 22.

[Zed03]

This info certainly looks promising.

Take it with a grain of salt, Fud is known to make up articles for hits.

 

[Olikan]

Im still standing by my own logic of (based on rumors of cards spec's):

35% more shaders + 13% higher clocks = +53% gains
+50% more memory bandwidth = +50% gains

= card thats over 50% faster than last gen card (the 6970) = ~35% faster than 580.

yeah, 53% gain is indeed a good number...for shadding bottleneck

you are forgetting things like.... the hardcore increase in tesselation, 3GB of memory

soo...we might see like a 53% increase in crysis 1, >70% in crysis 2

 

[jacktesterson]

It will be 30% faster than a 580.

Book it.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Its just PrayForDeath saying its bound to be slower than a 580 is lol worthy.

stolen from someone else:

35% more shaders, running 13% faster should => +53% increase in speed over cayman
(assumeing shaders are equally strong).

Then we look at memory bandwidth:
6970 = 176 gb/s --> 7970 = 264 gb/s = +50% gain.

I think its safe to say that the 7970 will be more than 50% faster than a 6970, unless something has gone really wrong for them.

a 580 is about 9-15% or so faster than a 6970, if you go by techpowerup game choices.
If the 7970 is like 50% faster than the 6970, that ll make it atleast 35% or so faster than a 580.

also with upto 4 times as fast tessellation with new card, in games with tess, we ll see the 7970 probably do more than 50% faster than 6970, probably somewhere in the 70% range or something silly likle that.
which means in games with heavy tessellation, this could be faster than a 6990.



** this might be real:

Comparing VLIW4 cores and numbers directly to GNC cores and numbers is flawed...I hope you know that.

 

[RussianSensation]

Comparing VLIW4 cores and numbers directly to GNC cores and numbers is flawed...I hope you know that.

Good point. This post reveals that HD7870's specs are going to be very similar to HD6970, except it will be based on GCN. Perfect card to do an architecture efficiency testing with against a 6970!

 

[Leyawiin]

More interested in the HD 7950. If its performance compared to the HD 7970 bears any relationship the the difference between the HD 5850/HD 5870 and HD 6950/HD 6970 it would be the perfect card for me. Probably in the neighborhood of a GTX 580 (or slightly below) with a lot lower power draw.

 

[-Slacker-]

Good point. This post reveals that HD7870's specs are going to be very similar to HD6970, except it will be based on GCN. Perfect card to do an architecture efficiency testing with against a 6970!

GCN based 7800s? That's freaking outstanding! Has this been confirmed though?

 

[badb0y]

Wow I was saving up for my first water cooling setup.....Now I am going to use that money to buy a HD 7970!

 

[mattdallastx]

hmmm $150 more will buy a 590.

 

[-Slacker-]

hmmm $150 more will buy a 590.

But the gtx 590 is a hot and power hungry dual gpu card ... doesn't the ergonomy of the product also factor into the price?

 

[mattdallastx]

But the gtx 590 is a hot and power hungry dual gpu card ... doesn't the ergonomy of the product also factor into the price?

Without a doubt. But if your power supply can handle it, and you're going to be spending in the $550 ball park; why not throw in a little extra and have one of the fastest cards available? Not to mention, when the prices drop, you have the option of adding a second 590 and achieving a dream SLI setup.

 

[Vesku]

GCN based 7800s? That's freaking outstanding! Has this been confirmed though?

Also hoping this gets confirmed with official release info. Never expected GCN to make it to 7800 series.

 

[tijag]

Comparing VLIW4 cores and numbers directly to GNC cores and numbers is flawed...I hope you know that.

Are you repeatedly typing GNC as a joke, or do you think that the next AMD GPU is likely to be chain of vitamins and suppliments store?

[It's GCN]

Also hoping this gets confirmed with official release info. Never expected GCN to make it to 7800 series.

For some time now we've been expecting 3 separate ASIC's with GCN. That would mean 79xx, 78xx, 77xx.

 

[mattdallastx]

Are you repeatedly typing GNC as a joke, or do you think that the next AMD GPU is likely to be chain of vitamins and suppliments store?

[It's GCN]





For some time now we've been expecting 3 separate ASIC's with GCN. That would mean 79xx, 78xx, 77xx.

GNC has a new Whey based card comming this spring.

 

[Awkward]

Without a doubt. But if your power supply can handle it, and you're going to be spending in the $550 ball park; why not throw in a little extra and have one of the fastest cards available? Not to mention, when the prices drop, you have the option of adding a second 590 and achieving a dream SLI setup.

Completely ignoring everything else flawed with this; you consider $150 a little extra?

 

[mattdallastx]

Completely ignoring everything else flawed with this; you consider $150 a little extra?

Wow. To each his own I guess. But to answer your question. Yes. $150 is "a little extra" If you have a job and the self control to save the extra amount.

 

[tviceman]

Looks like I'm wrong - and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm excited for new high end GPU's.

 

[RussianSensation]

hmmm $150 more will buy a 590.

In that case 2x HD6950 2GB unlocked into 6970s are even better at $500. The point of a $500-550 HD7970 is for people who want the fastest single GPU without SLI/CF scaling/micro-stutter issues some can't deal with. Also, using your logic, if you are spending $700 on a GTX590, might as well add $200 more and get 2x HD7950s in CF. If you already spending $700, what's another $150? :hmm:

 

[aphelion02]

Wow. To each his own I guess. But to answer your question. Yes. $150 is "a little extra" If you have a job and the self control to save the extra amount.

If the 7970 is 50-60% faster than a 6970, I would pick it over a GTX590 even at the same price. Going multi-gpu is a huge downside for me.

 

[ddarko]

Wow. To each his own I guess. But to answer your question. Yes. $150 is "a little extra" If you have a job and the self control to save the extra amount.

There is no excuse for your condescension. Plenty of people have jobs and "self control" - whatever that means - but would consider paying $700 for a video card to be too much. Simply because one has the means and the willingness to pay that amount is no proof of your merit.

And to answer your question, $150 on top $550 is an over 27% increase in price. By any meaning of the word "little" as used by native speakers, a 27% increase is more than a "little." Or if your employer cuts your pay by 27%, would you shrug it off as "a little extra" salary decline?

 

[mattdallastx]

There is no excuse for your condescension. Plenty of people have jobs and "self control" - whatever that means - but would consider paying $700 for a video card to be too much. Simply because one has the means and the willingness to pay that amount is no proof of your merit.

Why are you speaking to me like I just violated the first rule of fight club? "No excuse for my condescension? Proof of my merit?" Dude. Listen, I saved up and bought all my components like most of us on here. You ever consider writing cards for Hallmark?

 

[lavaheadache]

In that case 2x HD6950 2GB unlocked into 6970s are even better at $500. The point of a $500-550 HD7970 is for people who want the fastest single GPU without SLI/CF scaling/micro-stutter issues some can't deal with. Also, using your logic, if you are spending $700 on a GTX590, might as well add $200 more and get 2x HD7950s in CF. If you already spending $700, what's another $150? :hmm:

It's like you stole the thoughts out of my head and wrote them.

I live by the this philosophy.

I was in the market to buy a TV this fall. The one I really wanted was $1250 but there was a "value" version for $999. I was dead set on the ONE, but the wifey to be was like "but that one is cheaper and does all the same stuff". I damn near slapped her (obviously I'm kidding) and asked if that applied to when she picked out her wedding dress. Needless to say I got what I wanted.

When you are spending 75%-80% to "settle" you are just cheating your self. This applies to gifts aswell. I could have bought that Dynex blu-ray player for my father in law for Christmas but I don't think I could have looked him in the eyes when he opened it.

 

[ddarko]

I saved up and bought all my components like most of us on here.

It's simple; no one's challenging you on your purchases or priorities so don't imply that folks who don't share them are lazy or undisciplined.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Would be interesting to see how GCN does on BTC mining.

 

[Zargon]

In that case 2x HD6950 2GB unlocked into 6970s are even better at $500. The point of a $500-550 HD7970 is for people who want the fastest single GPU without SLI/CF scaling/micro-stutter issues some can't deal with. Also, using your logic, if you are spending $700 on a GTX590, might as well add $200 more and get 2x HD7950s in CF. If you already spending $700, what's another $150? :hmm:

yeah problem is 2 x Unlocked 6950's wont do what some people need.

will barely run bf3 in tri-1080p with stuff turned up, let alone those lucky SOBs with 30" dells.....