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The PII-975 would be pointless if it couldn't at least beat i5 at 4GHz when OCed.Wonder when they're going to start upping the CPU-NB. 3.6Ghz is pretty useless without the CPU-NB to keep it fed.
Also wonder how this thing will OC.
I concur with both points. It's pathetic that AMD is binning NB @2200 MHz (not that it's ground-breaking) for its server products yet leaving 'Black Edition' CPUs' NB @2000 MHz. And Deneb is currently stuck (I mean, STUCK) at 4.0 GHz hard ceiling, so without a break-through in its manufacturing, this SKU would be pointless for enthusiasts.Wonder when they're going to start upping the CPU-NB. 3.6Ghz is pretty useless without the CPU-NB to keep it fed.
Also wonder how this thing will OC.
Makes me wonder who in their right mind would buy it, I'll laugh when forums get flooded with people upset they only managed a 200-400mhz overclock on these. It's the Athlon X2 6400 all over again. But I suppose they need to do something to improve their stock performance, not everyone overclocks.
I think you have it right there.
What i want to know is when is Amd going to release a quad that can actually take on an I5 or don't they care and just release these weak ass things to please the fanboi's?
The PII-975 would be pointless if it couldn't at least beat i5 at 4GHz when OCed.
IMO, AMD should really have something that is at least as good as i7-920 to be able to compete with Intel.
What i want to know is when is Amd going to release a quad that can actually take on an I5 or don't they care and just release these weak ass things to please the fanboi's?
"Bulldozer" is AMD's future hope. Unfortunately this will not launch until 2011.
Still I have hope this could be a good chip especially with some nice "power management" (Turbo, Cool-n-quiet) technology strapped on.
What the heck are you talking about? Everything AMD has made since K5 has been out-of-order, they haven't built an in-order processor in like 15 years.Intel has implemented out of order loads since 1995 in the P6 core, it is a significant boost to IPC, and yet AMD didn't even use it until 12 years later with Barcelona. K7 didn't have it, and 5 years later K8 STILL didn't have it. Then we have the overambitious Barcelona, which went straight to native quad core when AMD clearly doesn't have a small enough process and ended up starving for data with a tiny 2MB L3...Native quad core sounds nice but means nothing if it is slower than a supposedly "inferior" non-native quad core C2Q.
What the heck are you talking about? Everything AMD has made since K5 has been out-of-order, they haven't built an in-order processor in like 15 years.