AMD To Show Off Radeon R9 290X Video Card in Montreal Oct. 17

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I know from experience, AMD's reference coolers at 40% fan speed is still quiet, as soon as its above 45% you can hear it, 50% + and it starts to sound like a jet.

So unless they did a temperature based boost clocks like NV, what exactly is the point of higher fan speed?
 

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So, all the people in discussions on 4K thread discussions claiming that single GPU/card gaming on 4K will not be possible for 3 or 4 generations will be eating their shorts now?

Even though single GPU 4K gaming is possible today if one is willing to dial back settings a bit.

I tried it with Titan SLI. It was not doable imo. Too many settings had to be dialled back. Keep in mind these results are averages... the minimums are horrible when you try to max the settings; sometimes sub 10fps. Battlefield 3, I had to put some settings on medium, no MSAA at all to be able to keep 60fps and even then it was not all the time. At that point I returned the monitor. You're correct that you can do it with pulling settings back quite a bit, but if you're going 4K right now today, I doubt your goal is to do it and turn the settings down.

I'm thinking 20nm flagship cards in SLI/Crossfire will maybe bring reasonably decent settings and framerates to 4K, this is without games advancing any further than where they are today. As well the monitors will start to get into a more sane territory price wise, hopefully they settle around where 30" screens are right now.

I'm not sure what the 4K hype is about because video cards are nowhere near strong enough to deliver high settings at 4K. Forget about turning on any sort of demanding graphical features at those resolutions as well.
 
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So, all the people in discussions on 4K thread discussions claiming that single GPU/card gaming on 4K will not be possible for 3 or 4 generations will be eating their shorts now?

Even though single GPU 4K gaming is possible today if one is willing to dial back settings a bit.

I think thats the point, you have to dial back settings a lot.. at which point the game looks fugly and you may as well game at 1440p or 1600p with higher settings.
 

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Up Grading GPU pending price of AMD's Radeon R9 290X offering Vs nVidia GeForce EVGA GTX 780 Classic.

I'm ready for 1440p 4K PPL gaming and that 512 Bit/4GB Hynix vRam AMD R9 290X looks very nice to me ;o
 
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4k is a dramatic leap in pixels and requires dramatic leap in processing power

It is the case that games are not made for 4k and there will not even be those ultra HD textures and meshes to look at
 

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Triple 1440P can be had for under $1K and has more pixels than 4K.
 

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That is what happens when you constantly post profits in the red. You can't afford to fly people to your own press releases. You just hold yours near the competitors and email people to come see it.

All AMD is poor jokes aside, that is rather scummy thing to do.

I'm sure people were just hangin' in Hawaii and decided to drop by AMD's event they had there.
 

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What is Nvidia going to do? Is there a GPU police I'm not aware of? But I really like the intense competition NV and AMD have going, good for everyone. :thumbsup:

Leave them in Canukistan? (Just kidding. I love Canadians. The most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life were in Montreal.)
 

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You are basing that off the one benchmark AMD is allowing them to release?

If it doesn't convincingly beat 780, or get near Titan, there are a lot of people who were wrong about this launch, that is for sure.

and if it does "convincingly beat 780, or get near Titan" there will again be a lot of people wrong about this launch. The ones who said because AMD doesn't make humungous chips they couldn't get close to GK110. So, somebody is going to be wrong. I just hope AMD errs on the cheap side of pricing.
 

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Seems like another silly and bad planned event. Most sites already removed preorder options due to how this entire disasterous event have unfolded. And they keep prolonging it for no positive reason. Something really went terrible wrong in the PR planning.

You've missed the forest for the trees. This "silly and bad planned" guerrilla marketing ambush managed to knock Nvidia's announcement out of the limelight. Purely from the perspective of marketing and stoking interest, the prolonged rollout has kept AMD front and center for weeks now and changed the tenor of the conversation from how long it's taking for AMD to fix its frame pacing problems with Crossfire and Eyefinity (as legitimate as that topic was and still is) to whether or not AMD can take back the single GPU performance crown (where frame pacing is roughly on par) and possibly even double down with Mantle.

Give credit where credit is due; even Nvidia must have some grudging respect for how effectively and quickly AMD has changed the mood. Big picture, AMD marketing should be pretty pleased with the last couple weeks. Now the question is whether AMD products will live up to its hype.
 
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You've missed the forest for the trees. This "silly and bad planned" guerrilla marketing ambush managed to knock Nvidia's announcement out of the limelight. Purely from the perspective of marketing and stoking interest, the prolonged rollout has kept AMD front and center for weeks now and changed the tenor of the conversation from how long it's taking for AMD to fix its frame pacing problems with Crossfire and Eyefinity (as legitimate as that topic was and still is) to whether or not AMD can take back the single GPU performance crown (where frame pacing is roughly on par) and possibly even double down with Mantle.

Give credit where credit is due; even Nvidia must have some grudging respect for how effectively and quickly AMD has changed the mood. Big picture, AMD marketing should be pretty pleased with the last couple weeks. Now the question is whether AMD products will live up to its hype.

Yeah,

I mean a lot more people are asking me when we will stock the new R9 cards. More so than any other AMD launch.
 

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Yeah, why would he say it doesn't do well against a 780 if the graphs show the 290x ahead there? Wouldn't make sense. It WAS poorly worded though.

I disagree, I think it's subtly worded to convey what it means without saying it outright. It's saying, unless you weren't aware, that the 290x does well against the Titan without actually mentioning the TITAN.
 

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I disagree, I think it's subtly worded to convey what it means without saying it outright. It's saying, unless you weren't aware, that the 290x does well against the Titan without actually mentioning the TITAN.

Even I could understand what he meant, and my English is terrible. I guess someone who is very nervous could misread/misinterpreted the sentence.
 

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A lot, or even most of that deficit is due to the VRAM advantage that the 290x possesses. At that resolution, the more VRAM you have the better, and the 290x has 1GB of extra VRAM over the GTX 780.

I'd be very surprised if any of those games are pushing past 2,5 gigs memory
I remember a 4K review that showed memory usage at between 2,1 -2,4 gigs
 

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It will be interesting to see if these results carry over to resolutions more commonly used like 19X10 or 25X14.

If so, looks like AMD has a winner.
 
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