AMD unstable????

[arnemarco]

Hi guys, I am now back in Norway, in Kristiansand, and I am preparing to buy a new rig. Yesterday I had a talk with a seller in North Corporation AS, who told me that the AMD's are unstable and recommended me to buy a Intel P4. I was rather astound, because I have never heard that before. Comments please ...

The proporsial is:
P4 1,8 GHz
Intel D850MWL, Lan S-478 motherboard
Rambus 256 MB PC800
Maxtor 80 GB 133
Creative GeForce3 Ti500
Inboard sound AC 97
Memorex 24x 10x 40x
Memorex DVD 1648
Creative Slim500
Targa 19"
AOpen Midi Tower P4

What do you think of this???

 

[Seeko]

I'd blame instability on the VIA chipset, not the AMD CPU.

 

[A2KLAU]

Comparativerly speaking the P4s are more stable than AMD processors, but that is at the, in a way, compromise for high speeds that the AMDs can achieve..

I can not really say whybecause my knowledge is limited in this front, but what I can say is that the AMDs are fast and stable for home use.. VERY stable for home use.

The P4s are litterally built like German Tiger tanks and litterally whatever you throw at it, it will remain solid.

Hope some of that helps,

Albert.

P.S The set up you have propsed looks fine to me, but you might consider getting a smaller Monitor? Or maybe an LCD.. Reason I say that is that you would probably be sitting clsoe to the screen and that may harm your eyes with long use.. Smaller would be better in my opinion..

 

[Pabster]

No. AMD processors are every bit as stable and reliable as Intel processors. The issues lie in the motherboard and, more specifically, the chipset used on said. VIA gives AMD a bad name. Stick to non-VIA chipsets and you won't have a thing to worry about.

 

[RossGr]

I had some clown seller tell me, the other day, that he did not built AMD systems because they "go poof in 18months" ! How the heck would he know! he doesn't build AMD systems!

 

[Sunner]

Thats BS.

It's all about the other components, there's nothing inherantly unstable about AMD's.
Pick a good mobo and you'll be set.
That goes for every platform and chipset.

There are bad VIA mobos and good VIA mobos, just as there are bad Intel's, SiS's, etc.
But it does indeed seem like there are alot more unstable VIA mboos than Intel ones, so if you go VIA, do some research first.

But in the end, as long as you do your homework and get good components, you won't have a problem.

 

[Priit]

Hmm, I think those "unstability" issues with alternative chipsets/processors are mostly software faults...

 

[Mitzi]

Comparativerly speaking the P4s are more stable than AMD processors, but that is at the, in a way, compromise for high speeds that the AMDs can achieve..

Err....not true!

I can not really say whybecause my knowledge is limited in this front, but what I can say is that the AMDs are fast and stable for home use.. VERY stable for home use.

Partly true, AMD CPUs are fast and stable for home use but you imply they are not as stable for use in the business place which is simply untrue.

The P4s are litterally built like German Tiger tanks and litterally whatever you throw at it, it will remain solid.

True, but the same applies to AMD CPUs.

 

[A2KLAU]

Sorry if I mislead anyone into thinking what I typed was absoluterly correct.

I was more or less trying to say as an AMD based system and P4 based system.. I was not really going into detail about eh CPU itself.

As a system the AMD would be fine at home, and speedy, and in the business place with apps also.

As a system the P4 would be rock stable for any games chucked at it and favoured by businesses becuase of its stability.

Sorry if I mis lead you into thinking I was talking about teh CPU alone.

Albert.

 

[arnemarco]

Thanks for the answers so far. If I do understand you right, I cannot do anything wrong, buying a P4 and a 850 chipset? In any case I will also have a new talk with the seller and see if he can offer Athlon XP.

I read today the new test in AnandTech that compare the new P4 Northwood 2.2 GHz with the Athlos XP 2000+ and they used the Asus A7 V266-E motherboard for the Athlon. Is that Via chipset? I suppose they know what is good to use ...

 

[tjdavis1138]

Too bad we can't convice Intel to make chipsets for XP's.

 

[Aelus]

The thing is, that going intel is more expensive, thus giving the retailer a bigger margin. Some retailers therefor, will portray AMD solutions are bad, because they made less $$$ on them.

That being said, i really like my epox 8KHA+, one of the greatest motherboards i ever had, just plugged it in, installed drivers, rebooted once, and everything was installed.

two things you shouldn't save on, regardless if you go intel or AMD, is memory and power supply, get good quality of those, and you'll most likely never run into problems, unless you run into bad hardware.

Aelus

 

[CraigRT]

<< No. AMD processors are every bit as stable and reliable as Intel processors >>



That's 100% true.

 

[novon]

It really depends more on the chipset and mobo than the processor. I had a lot of problems with my KT133A mobo, but now I have a KT266A and it works fine, with Intel, you don't take a risk, but with AMD, if you do a little homework and get the right parts, you can get better performance for less money.

 

[Mem]

<< Yesterday I had a talk with a seller in North Corporation AS >>




Tell him to come and have a look at my Epox 8KHA+ with my XP 1700+ and he will see what stability is all about ,no difference in stability betwen Intel and AMD processors as the guys have already said you can get good and bad boards from even the same chipset and IMHO AMD is just as stable ,if it was not the case I would be back with Intel again.
I use both my rigs for gaming since I`m a hardcore gamer and general use and have yet to have problems .

 

[Athlon4all]

AMD processors are just as stable as Intel's. It's the platforms for the Athlon that have had trouble. But, that doesn't mean stable systems can't be built around the athlon. There are VIA and SiS zealots that flame each other but in truth, both SiS 735 and KT266A (and nVidia's nForce as well) are all very stable once up and running. That setup looks fine. I'd though get a Northwood 1.8A and instead of getting that Intel board, get an Abit TH7II and overclock the Northwood to like 2.4GHz.