Lol yeah AMD dude instagramed a pic of "Vega launch" site and these muppets think it's logical that earliest "Vega" is 6+ months time.
2016:
Gain profitable graphics and client computing share
Ramp semi-custom business
Monetize IP and close ATMP JV transaction
Return to Non-GAAP operating profitability
2017:
Introduce Next-Generation Graphics and processor products
Server/infrastructure market share gains
Accelerate graphics/PC share gains
Margin expansion
Consistent profitability and cash generation
Volta isn't coming out next year, at least for consumers. 2017 is a refresh of Pascal at Samsung's 14FF.
if polaris taught e anything, its that you never have to take the crown. Even if it doesn't beat big pascal, there is a massive space for it to fill with the right pricing. Its all about launching it with the right message and properly so people know they are better off buying vega vs whatever the competition in that price range is.
The problem is that too many high end enthusiasts think they are the most important segment, they are not, they are just the most vocal.
Once the mainstream loses interest then its over and all that is left are the few enthusiasts on forums.
The enthusiasts could not sustain Commodore or Sinclair once the mainstream lost interest but there enthusiasts still exists.
Even when AMD had the Better CPU, while the enthusiasts bought the CPU most of the mainstream didn't.
If AMD could have a choice of all of the mainstream buying there product in exchange for no enthusiasts buying there product and buying only Intel and the mainstream not buying any Intel products then i know which choice AMD would pick,
Of Course ideally a company wants both to buy there product as the more the merrier, but the enthusiasts are the cherry on the top of the pie and the cherry itself can not sustain anyone.
Mainstream is not the issue for AMD.
Their lack of offerings in servers and enterprise is what's killing them. To this extent, Nehalem with its QPI (DP and MP scaling, and relegating the need for FB-DIMMs) is what did the most damage to AMD's CPU business. Sandy Bridge then added salt to the wound with its leap in perf/watt.
Now, AMD's GPU business is letting Nvidia make an absolute killing with its Tesla and Quadro lines. The situation is pretty much a joke, and if I were an AMD investor I would find it unacceptable.
If Vega is coming next year with HBM2, you can bet Nvidia will drop a P100 with HBM2 in titan/GeForce flavor. Also, expect a 1080ti to combat these new Vega chips. Vega will haul ass and be great and it can't go unanswered. Exciting times inbound!
I have not seen AMD admitting not wanting to compete at the high end, its just not there priority as they got more important sectors to cater for first and there are far more to high end than Titan, they dont have to beat Titan to be competitive in the High end.People need to stop hyping and just need to be shut up. AMD has admitted that they are not a competition to Nvidia anymore on high end products and cannot match them. It is time to admit that Nvidia has better engineers, better team, better management and overall a much better company and this is the reason why they are paid 2X more then AMD doing the same job.
VEGA will not be a competition to Pascal Titan X let alone Volta. AMD has give up on high end market they will only focus on mid range and VR market. Do not be surprise VEGA will only be 20% to 30% faster then fury X.
The problem for AMD is that they are only on par with the competition in the midrange market (480 vs 1060) and have zero presence in the high end. I cant believe people are still saying this is some kind of great strategy. And even then, the midrange products fell far short of the promised and much needed 2.8x increase in performance per watt, which despite the many on these forums who say it does not matter, ultimately does with high end desktop chips and especially in laptops. I have heard of zero presence of Polaris in laptops, while my local microcenter already has at least 5 models of gaming laptops with 1060 video cards, and at really rather decent prices.
The problem is that too many high end enthusiasts think they are the most important segment, they are not, they are just the most vocal.
Once the mainstream loses interest then its over and all that is left are the few enthusiasts on forums.
The enthusiasts could not sustain Commodore or Sinclair once the mainstream lost interest but there enthusiasts still exists.
Even when AMD had the Better CPU, while the enthusiasts bought the CPU most of the mainstream didn't.
If AMD could have a choice of all of the mainstream buying there product in exchange for no enthusiasts buying there product and buying only Intel and the mainstream not buying any Intel products then i know which choice AMD would pick,
Of Course ideally a company wants both to buy there product as the more the merrier, but the enthusiasts are the cherry on the top of the pie and the cherry itself can not sustain anyone.
AMDs last enthusiast CPU is 4 years old people said that AMD has given up on the enthusiast CPU but here we are with a new enthusiast CPU, so users so not be so ready to write off AMD giving up on the highend GPU just because its not been released at the same time as the competitions.You do know the GM204/GP104/Hawaii is the absolute best selling segment ever, and AMD got nothing there now. And we can thank Zen for that. You know, the enthusiast and server oriented chip.
AMDs last enthusiast CPU is 4 years old people said that AMD has given up on the enthusiast CPU but here we are with a new enthusiast CPU, so users so not be so ready to write off AMD giving up on the highend GPU just because its not been released at the same time as the competitions.
Its all about the price.What AMD calls enthusiast may not be enthusiast.
Who is going to buy Vega in Q2 2017, if its basically a GP104 competitor. Just as delivering CPU performance several years ago isn't going to be a great seller.
Its all about the price.
The RX480 is offering performance that was available years ago and its OCUKs best seller which helped contribute to OCUKs best ever month in OCUKs history.
Its all about the price to performance and not that is was available years ago.
AMDs market share grow when there top end was Fury and 390s, performance that was available for years before, why did anyone buy any of them, it was the price to performance.
I don't think its anything special but clearly it was for OCUK.The 480 is priced exactly as it performs. There is nothing new in it and its nothing special.
Is it really their best seller? No other vendor have shown that, neither have statistics.
Gibbo;29838962 said:Agreed I think I have to say this Nitro is the best looking card of all time, when I got my sample I was impressed by how clean and high-end it looks, then I held it and it also feels solid as well.
Sapphire have nailed it, the sales show this as RX 480 Nitro 8G OC is our best selling card of all time for the time window it has being online, if the sales remain it will outsell our best selling SKU of all time which was the MSI 970 Gaming which sold close to 10,000 units in the 2 years it was available.
The Sapphire has a cracking start as it is already beyond 1000 units and sales momentum in last 48hrs is actually increasing because several reviews have being published that are all raving about how amazing it is.
So we are pushing to get this card to sell 10,000+ units within year 1.
Gibbo;29844607 said:600 sold on the past 7 days, very happy with that, in fact over the moon with that.
400x 1080
600x 1070
600x 1060
100x Fury
700x RX 480
Not bad for a weeks work!
I don't think its anything special but clearly it was for OCUK.
Read the last part, a weeks sales of all the cards total, not a specific card.But that quote isn't what you said and it refers to one specific card against 1 other specific card with a future prospect that haven't happen yet.
Right now, 480 sales are being inflated by the mining craze. Too soon to say how the sales will settle out after that subsides and used mining cards hit the market. I am sure it will still sell well, but the point is that they are still ceding the most profitable and prestigious segments to nVidia for at least 6 months.I don't think its anything special but clearly it was for OCUK.
28th Jul 2016
29th Jul 2016, 16:49
The profitable is the mainstream in the context of consumer products and thats where AMD is getting back market share.Right now, 480 sales are being inflated by the mining craze. Too soon to say how the sales will settle out after that subsides and used mining cards hit the market. I am sure it will still sell well, but the point is that they are still ceding the most profitable and prestigious segments to nVidia for at least 6 months.
People need to stop hyping and need to learn their lesson that hyping has always hurt AMD. AMD has admitted that they are not a competition to Nvidia anymore on high end products and cannot match them. It is time to admit that Nvidia has better engineers, better team, better management and overall a much better company and this is the reason why they are paid 2X more then AMD doing the same job.
VEGA will not be a competition to Pascal Titan X let alone Volta. AMD has give up on high end market they will only focus on mid range and VR market. Do not be surprise that VEGA will only be 20% to 30% faster then fury X.